Hold on I’m confused how can you be robbed of a trip radar offer? The whole premise of trip radar is that it’s offered to multiple people at the same time which means it don’t belong to anyone and there lays your problem. Now if they were somehow taking your exclusive offers then you would be onto something but you can rob someone of something that didn’t exclusively belong to anyone to begin with. Thats like saying I was Robbed from a chance of buying a PS5 because I wasn’t the first one in line. Just sowing more division instead of banding together and regaining leverage. Take notes from drivers in Minnesota and Denver. In Denver they forced uber to show what they charge the passenger and how much are offering the driver right in the trip request so both the passengers and the driver see this information before the trip is even accepted. In Minnesota they force uber to pay a minimum fare of 1.38 per mile and 31cents per min. So they will never be driving for less than a 1$ per mile. You don’t take back your leverage with division; so start organizing your local drivers and put pressure on uber/lyft for the labor terms you desire.

 

Drivers as a GROUP are being robbed when scamming drivers are using software and/or hardware to skim rides that are supposed to be assigned to other drivers. Given the fact that the vast majority of rides are trash and that the number of decent rides available are few and far between it doesn't take a whole lot of skimming to pretty much leave the non-scammers with bunch of trash rides and little else.

Both the Trip Radar and Reserved Rides systems are more vulnerable to being hacked than the Exclusive systems.

Ride offers are not sent your phone in real time...

I discovered years ago that Uber secretly sends the same rides to many drivers at a time and if you were able to hack into your Uber app you'd discover that there's a several rides hidden in your app, many if not most of which you'll probably never be offered. Those rides could literally be sitting in your phone for minutes at a time before Uber removes them.

It's no accident that with all that transferring of data occurring that the Uber app is a data and resource hog.

Stealing rides and other illicit activity has been going on for a while and it's occurring all over the country...

‘Screwber’ scheme reaped whopping $40M in bogus surge fares for hundreds of shady Uber drivers: feds

Eliahou Paldiel, 52, of Queens, and Carlos Arturo Suarez Palacios, 54, face federal wire fraud and money laundering charges in Brooklyn federal court for an alleged Uber “surge pricing”…

nypost.com

 

Also anyone from Connecticut having low income since july 1st? Why did it slow down? Is it just me? My income dropped from say 650 to 250$

 

This is all news to me but me likey the sounds of hacking uber sign me up

 

Where could I purchase such a "bot and/or other hacks"?
(Gonna guess nowhere.)
Trip Radar is "stealing" from drivers, as designed by Uber. Uber is the thief — not CIA-equipped drivers.

 

Your comments are clueless...

‘Screwber’ scheme reaped whopping $40M in bogus surge fares for hundreds of shady Uber drivers: feds

Eliahou Paldiel, 52, of Queens, and Carlos Arturo Suarez Palacios, 54, face federal wire fraud and money laundering charges in Brooklyn federal court for an alleged Uber “surge pricing”…

nypost.com

 

I think Trip Radar is strictly a bidding system. Sometimes you are the unlucky (lucky?) one that gets the best bid, but the person that got the worst bid accepted it immediately, so he wins because he will do it for the cheapest.

The ones where YOU actually immediately win the bid, you should know that you were probably the one that got cucked with the lowest offer, and fell for it.

 

I get some great offers in the city when its busy only.

 

I don't know how this would work because with Trip Radar Uber doesn't give the trip instantly to the first driver who accepts it like Instacart does. Every driver is given a different offer and Uber deliberately waits for multiple drivers to accept the same trip so that it can give the trip to driver who had the lowest offer. So it doesn't seem like clicking inhumanly fast would give you any kind of advantage.

 

So it doesn't seem like clicking inhumanly fast would give you any kind of advantage.

If there is a trip and 10 drivers around it who qualify and all get the same trip offer simultaneously who do you think is going to get it?

Yea the guy who clicked on it first.

So if a app is doing the judging and the clicking in a second obviously they are going to get the good trips more often than others not using the helper app.

 

Uber is supposedly starting to de-active drivers using 3rd party apps that manipulate the system

 

I'm not going to repeat it over and over for you guys, because we're arrested in New York City a long time ago. They have a device called clicker. In n.j these guys are paying so much per. Week you to the developer, and then 10% of the ride to the developer. I was asked if I wanted to get involved a long time ago. I should absolutely not. I want nothing to do with it as I did wheelchair vehicle, and I had a lot of money invested in wheelchair.
These guys could go to events. Concerts and only choose long trips take sticky surges from another city, say Penn State College game and put it in Florida. I mean, the level of cheating was off the chart and that was very sophisticated. How sophisticated would just be to grab all the radars instantaneously? Intercept them and put them back if they're bad.

 

On Mystro you cannot put in a specific address as your pickup or destination but you can select the area it's in depending how tight of a circle you can draw with your finger and software limits of course. You can zoom out the map.

So you get one map for pickups and another map for dropoffs.

The software will automatically cancel any other trips and restart the app after two declines to avoid the whole logout business.

Now as far as receiving that sort of trip it's still up to Uber, proximity, ratings etc. however it filters all the other stuff you don't want based upon YOUR criteria.

 

So see screenshot of clubs , there’s a cluster of clubs in a tight quarter mile radius or maybe up a mile. Seems like using the drop off map a driver could draw a circle to encompass most of them. Drivers in Las Vegas often use kickback income as bragging rights of their ( skillful Abilities ) while it seems this might explain some things I’ve always heard scuttlbutt about Uber running interference with particular third party apps like mystro.

 

No doubt man, it’s bots or other cheat apps. You either join them and found deactivated one day, or stuck in shitty offers, pick your poison man!

 

What do consider a "cheat" app? I've been using Mystro for 10 years and never been deactivated.

 

There are no good rides on Uber or Lyft unless your grossing $2.60+ per trip mile or $80+ an engaged hour.

That's what it takes to be sustainable.

What Uber is doing is messing with your heads, throwing fake Trip Radar requests out there to see if your awake or not.

And all the drivers are using Mystro, which Uber and Lyft don't have a problem with. It intercepts the data stream Uber and Lyft send to drivers and automatically selects the trip in a fraction of a second based upon ones criteria.

So yes if your not using Mystro then yes your being left behind.

There are no bots taking the good rides, it's just selecting them faster than a human can.

Seriously, how can a bot grab the good trips before Uber or Lyft even send them? It's impossible.

So you all quit your frigging whining and find yourself a real profitable job than this crappy gig work working for less than minimum wage.

I hear California needs its vegetables picked as nearly all the illegals have bailed. Lots of work out there now, you don't need these gig companies anymore.

 

So let me ask since it seems your fairly knowledgeable about these third party app ( and I’ve seen you post screenshots of offers using Gigu or something that breaks down the mileage/ time so the driver can skip the quick math in his head ) and you said the driver can enter his own criteria on the third party app , can a driver enter specific destination preferences on these apps? Like say hear in Las Vegas scores gentleman club could be entered as a drivers desired destination criteria then the third party app would send that offer instantly in fractions of seconds to that drivers Uber/ Lyft app? By the way that scores gentleman club can pay in the form of a kickback up $130 dollars per person, so a full x trip would net that driver over a quick $500 . I’ve asked before on this forum but got either snarky remarks or vague comments to no the third party apps don’t work like that. NOW if you can speak to absolutely certainty on these third party apps functionality in this matter or not please do so but please be specific on whether you know for sure or not ( it’s always ok to not be a 100% sure )

 

What happened to the ILLEGAL app court cases against in nyc??? Remember some 800 drivers were arrested for buying special pre app installed phone that will drivers all kinds advantages over other drivers ( mainly gps spoofing and even falsely adding surge pricing ) Uber sure got that swept the rug rather quick because it prove that a licensed company both through state and local municipalities could be hacked. All these third party app should be banned outright by both Uber/ Lyft.

 

Nyc and n.j. it's a fact that guy's had clickers, that's what the slang name was where they could take a trip from one phone, transfer it to another phone and also steal surge from another city and put it in our city.
I knew a couple guys that did it and asked me to I want to get involved. I did wheelchair for so long. I had too much invested and made a decent living.Telling you that I told them absolutely not.
These guys would kill it at major events. Especially when we had the multiplier after the multiplier, they were able to do things with sticky surges.

 

I heard some drivers talk about this at the Fort Lauderdale airport in Florida. They were saying that some drivers are using some kind of gadget to steal the good rides from the other drivers.

 

Problem is if it was hurting Uber they would fix it immediately. All they ever care about is that the ride it's taken by some driver. I know Lyft started sending messages if you're using third party apps you will be taking off and deactivated Uber should do the same thing. It's probably really not that hard to see a driver that keeps getting rides that are really good in point .001 seconds you can tell that it's not a human. But since it's not costing Uber any money they may fix it they may not but they're going to take their sweet time

 

My first guess would be transmission delays across the network. The advertised rides not reaching all drivers at the same instant. So for a particular driver, by the time the advertisement reaches them, another driver had received it a moment earlier, instantly accepted it and the advertisement stopped. Thus it appears and disappears from the screen.

 

That was my thought as well when it first started happening to me but it seems to happen with regularity and I don't seem to be having any other bandwith issues or delays otherwise. I have my doubts about it being a bot but it could be something as stupid as them giving preference to advantage or whatever the exploitive rankings are now that I don't have. So for example they could be sending it to high rated AR's first and before checking to see if they want it, sending it to the cherry pickers just as it's being assigned.

 

God, I'm glad I stopped Driver for Uber 18 months ago.

 

It's the pending Bot Wars.

It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and
MY bot can beat YOUR bot.

And, it's a zero-sum game.
Every time I get a profitable ride, it's one
that you can't have.

I don't see anything 'illegal' about it.
It may become against TOS, but until then
I don't see anything illegal or immoral
about using a program to improve your business.

 

Yes bots and or other apps will do this.

 

I've been wondering about that, I get those fairly often, especially when I have the app running in the background and I'm set to only Premier rides. I have a hard time thinking it's a bot though because even when you accept a trip radar ping, it still takes Uber a few seconds to decide whether to give it to you or not so I wouldn't expect it to disappear from other drivers phones so quickly. So in my mind, the jury is still out as to why this happens, I'm more inclined to think it's an issue with the app.

 

Ever since trip radars started in my market. If Uber is in the background, and i get a radar I almost never get the ride. It never even spins it just disappears. The Uber app has always acted funny when it’s in the background.