When you accept a ride, and have zero or very few cancellations you get more chances of getting a ping.

I disagree. Show proof of your assertion.

Cherrypicking creates a bad reputation that will eventually end up in riders selecting other methods of transportation.

When drivers are set up to fail, they "return the favor". If drivers were paid a reasonable amount of money per ride, then perhaps they would care about the company more.

Cherrypicking diminishes your chance to earn good money.

Not true.

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I am not a cherrypicker at the airport, and have not called more than 2 or 3 pax ever about destinations in over 2 years. However, I fully understand why drivers do it. Even tho it is wrong, I sympathize.

Ready for the hard truth? Uber and Lyft don't give a crap about any of us, they ONLY care about the money. So, why should our attitude be any different? Taking a cue from the corporate masters, the hard core cherry pickers are doing EXACTLY what U/L would do if they were human drivers! Lie, cheat, break rules, cherry pick, and only care about the money. Travis laughs at the morons who just do what they are told!

You are preaching to the wrong crowd, my friend.

 

I disagree. Show proof of your assertion.

When drivers are set up to fail, they "return the favor". If drivers were paid a reasonable amount of money per ride, then perhaps they would care about the company more.

Not true.

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I am not a cherrypicker at the airport, and have not called more than 2 or 3 pax ever about destinations in over 2 years. However, I fully understand why drivers do it. Even tho it is wrong, I sympathize.

Ready for the hard truth? Uber and Lyft don't give a crap about any of us, they ONLY care about the money. So, why should our attitude be any different? Taking a cue from the corporate masters, the hard core cherry pickers are doing EXACTLY what U/L would do if they were human drivers! Lie, cheat, break rules, cherry pick, and only care about the money. Travis laughs at the morons who just do what they are told!

You are preaching to the wrong crowd, my friend.

The one point I disagree with you is when you said cherry picking is wrong.

There's nothing immoral or unethical about an alleged business owner (we're actually employees) picking and choosing the most profitable business deals they can.

Other business owners set their rates and do what's in their best interests.

Rideshare drivers and other alleged ICs are expected to accept whatever slop gets thrown our way for rates decided by someone else.

What is wrong is fuber and gryft treating their drivers like dirt.

 

That's right, they were all going to get a CAB.

Good, at least someone will get paid fairly.

when you could have taken the short ride trip and done some others and then going back to your airport you could be lucky and get a long ride

So, you're saying, Wait an hour in the queue, take a $3.75 across the street, get back to the queue, wait another hour and roll the dice on a better fare? Lol

Moral of the story, dont wait in airport queue.

 

So, you're saying, Wait an hour in the queue, take a $3.75 across the street, get back to the queue, wait another hour and roll the dice on a better fare? Lol

$2.29 in Houston. This is life-changing $, according to Uber.

Lyft I get plenty.

People say surge never happens with Lyft in Houston. There must be a large demand of Lyft in DC.

Btw, any suggestions to get to DCA at a reasonable pace?
395 is always @#/$%. I have also tried the exit to main street (If I rmb correctly) leading to Independence Av. This route had been slightly better at first but the same problem showed up near the National Cemetery.

"Cherrypicking is needed to make good profit at the airport". Really...

This applies to all situations. This is why I no longer waste my time at the airport after the staging lot expands. Often requests come in 4-7 miles away from the airport. The destinations often are Houston downtown with a minority of them back to the airport. So it is more profitable to stay away from the airport than just hoping for long rides.

In Houston, you never want a long trip @ $0.6/mile.

We are always on our own to do better than minimum wage. $ IS KING.

I never call passengers to verify their destinations, but patterns can be predictable at a particular time and place. You just need to do some research of your market.

 

I see this stupidity goes on in many airports. While some people may think waiting a long time in the queue for a short trip is unfair (not to say that they are not right), this thing about calling the rider and cancelling if they don't go where you want is negative for everyone, including you as the cherrypicker.

When you accept a ride, and have zero or very few cancellations (cancellations must be reserved for riders not showing up or giving a wrong address very far away from their true location, for example), you get more chances of getting a ping. When your acceptance rate is high and cancellation rate is low, you may get a short trip ride from the airport and then a potential long or medium ride outside that, adding up to the short trip before will make the long ride you desired.

Cherrypicking creates a bad reputation that will eventually end up in riders selecting other methods of transportation. Tonight I saw a very long line or people going to the taxi booth. That's right, they were all going to get a CAB. The reason? In my airport cherrypicking is rampant. I see the same people seated in chairs outside like they are not interested in giving rides. Because they all want long trips and call the riders to know their destination which is in clear violation of the ridesharing companies' terms of service.

Cherrypicking diminishes your chance to earn good money. While you wait for your long trip ride you stay there hours and hours refusing less than $10 rides and end up doing one or just two long rides, when you could have taken the short ride trip and done some others and then going back to your airport you could be lucky and get a long ride

It is really great when drivers cherry pick... other drivers way behind in the queue get to skip the queue and pick up the rejected driver and then comeback right to the airport( short ride), then get
Another ride, a good long distance. Problem arises if the queue has too many high acceptance drivers, then you have competition. 40 dollars avg in
80 minutes( 2 rides including tip), if it involves a rejected passenger.

 

Problem arises if the queue has too many high acceptance drivers, then you have competition

Given that most queues are filled with noobs with 100% ARs I see a huge problem arising.

 

yep, especially around 5-6 pm arrivals... after
Work people who drive for u-l, for 2-3 runs...very tough to skip them, plus
Most of them have good vehicles.
Low rated passenger- another reason
You get to skip the queue

 

Change “airport cherrypicking” for “this thread”

 

You sound bitter.

Maybe it’s because you make such little money due to not cherry picking?

 

You sound bitter.

Maybe it's because you make such little money due to not cherry picking?

The people who cherry pick also make little money.

 

I see this stupidity goes on in many airports. While some people may think waiting a long time in the queue for a short trip is unfair (not to say that they are not right), this thing about calling the rider and cancelling if they don't go where you want is negative for everyone, including you as the cherrypicker.

When you accept a ride, and have zero or very few cancellations (cancellations must be reserved for riders not showing up or giving a wrong address very far away from their true location, for example), you get more chances of getting a ping. When your acceptance rate is high and cancellation rate is low, you may get a short trip ride from the airport and then a potential long or medium ride outside that, adding up to the short trip before will make the long ride you desired.

Cherrypicking creates a bad reputation that will eventually end up in riders selecting other methods of transportation. Tonight I saw a very long line or people going to the taxi booth. That's right, they were all going to get a CAB. The reason? In my airport cherrypicking is rampant. I see the same people seated in chairs outside like they are not interested in giving rides. Because they all want long trips and call the riders to know their destination which is in clear violation of the ridesharing companies' terms of service.

Cherrypicking diminishes your chance to earn good money. While you wait for your long trip ride you stay there hours and hours refusing less than $10 rides and end up doing one or just two long rides, when you could have taken the short ride trip and done some others and then going back to your airport you could be lucky and get a long ride

I do uber for money, not favors. Cherrypicking is must.

 

I can honestly say.......and this is gonna bring out the flamers I know........I have not ever cherry-picked a ride in the year-and-a-half I have been in rideshare. I just don't want to take the chance of getting reported. Anyone who does it though, well you do you, no bitterness here (bad enough I longhaul like mad lol).

I can also say that since I completely stopped sitting in the airport Queue, my "income" (I REFUSE to call it "money made" because we all know about the expenses attached) has increased roughly 25% a week, maybe slightly more. The ONLY time I ever go into the Queue is if I happen to drop off a pax there, and the car-to-flight ratio for the next 15 minutes is no more then 2:1 without the app telling me the "lot is full" (example....12 flights incoming over the next 15 minutes with 21-25 cars in Queue). I use this time to take a mini-break (I drive for usually 10 hours per day straight through, at set times). I will not at all go into the lot if it is "full" no matter how many flights are incoming. The only time I ever break this rule is if I drop someone off and for some reason the Queue is surging, but again I will wait no longer then 15 minutes (Charlotte surge pricing).

No offense, but people who sit in the airport Queue (at least here in Charlotte) for an hour or more, even if they DO cherry-pick, are total morons. I found this out through experimentation. During each day with the old app, you could pull up over 100 Uber cars sitting in the Queue (and at least 50 Lyfts which go MUCH slower). Yes it's a big airport here with tons of flights, but we aren't talking New York City or LAX.

 

Well a big part of the problem is ridiculously low pay for short trips. And this isn't because the rider is being charged little. In great part it is due to the company keeping most of the fare. Often over 50% for these short trips. I don't cherrypick but I too loathe short rides and do my best to avoid them. Not only do short rides hurt me financially but they seriously hurt my morale and self esteem.

 

This^^^
You took the words right out of my mouth.
We will always lose in the long run, taking minfares.

You people that sit in the queue and don't cherrypick, need to place more value on your time. We are all worth more than that.

It's about:

1.) simple business; and
2.) self respect.

 

I have a 100% flawless 100% effective way of avoiding wasting time in queues on short runs.

I don't wait in queues..

 

The only time I cherrypick is at big events (concerts/sporting events etc.) I haven't done an airport Queue in a LONG time.

Here's a free tip for you guys/gals that do Lyft at airports: DF.

Not IN the lot but find some spot near the airport and set Lyft DF for some far off location. I have done this and gotten multiple pings when there's been 30 in the Queue.

 

The only time I cherrypick is at big events (concerts/sporting events etc.) I haven't done an airport Queue in a LONG time.

Here's a free tip for you guys/gals that do Lyft at airports: DF.

Not IN the lot but find some spot near the airport and set Lyft DF for some far off location. I have done this and gotten multiple pings when there's been 30 in the Queue.

Only with Lyft? I mean I know you get way more chances to use the DF with Lyft then Uber and you don't want to blow through the two you get.

 

With Uber if I perch with DF on I get nothing.

Lyft I get plenty.

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This jumped out at me....8>O

Do you seriously have this as a goal...????

If so...you are seriously ambitious...8>)

Rakos

 

So is it just me....????????

I agree, that goal is way too low.

 

Back when I started doing Uber, picking up at Logan airport in Boston was not allowed. I dreamed of the day we could do pickups. Then I wouldn't have to drive back downtown empty handed. Fast-forward to the first day I thought about doing an airport pickup once it was legal. 117 drivers in the queue. I said "no thanks". I have yet to do an airport pickup and probably never will.

 

..I don't call it cherry picking...I call it "not wasting my time " picking...

I got a 2.5 mile pax after waiting 49+ min...no tip...

had to go back in Queue..30 + cars ahead of me...I was not a happy camper.

 

I see this stupidity goes on in many airports. While some people may think waiting a long time in the queue for a short trip is unfair (not to say that they are not right), this thing about calling the rider and cancelling if they don't go where you want is negative for everyone, including you as the cherrypicker.

When you accept a ride, and have zero or very few cancellations (cancellations must be reserved for riders not showing up or giving a wrong address very far away from their true location, for example), you get more chances of getting a ping. When your acceptance rate is high and cancellation rate is low, you may get a short trip ride from the airport and then a potential long or medium ride outside that, adding up to the short trip before will make the long ride you desired.

Cherrypicking creates a bad reputation that will eventually end up in riders selecting other methods of transportation. Tonight I saw a very long line or people going to the taxi booth. That's right, they were all going to get a CAB. The reason? In my airport cherrypicking is rampant. I see the same people seated in chairs outside like they are not interested in giving rides. Because they all want long trips and call the riders to know their destination which is in clear violation of the ridesharing companies' terms of service.

Cherrypicking diminishes your chance to earn good money. While you wait for your long trip ride you stay there hours and hours refusing less than $10 rides and end up doing one or just two long rides, when you could have taken the short ride trip and done some others and then going back to your airport you could be lucky and get a long ride

What are you, 10 years old? You do whatever is best for you, specially that you are not even Uber's employee.

I do uber for money, not favors. Cherrypicking is must.

Glad to see some people with solid common sense.

 

The real problem is that the two companies do not give this information to the driver in the first place . I don't cherry pick at airports because I don't sit in a queue . At EWR if you are dropping of you usually get a rebound fairly quickly and personally the good ride was the one to the airport and the rebound is just an extension of that ride .

Now they are taking away LT notifications at airports which will lead to 1. smaller queues and 2 . more cherry picking .

 

That $5,000 goal tho!!!

 

refusing less than $10 rides and end up doing one or just two long rides

2 rides at $120 each is nice cheddar! You go ahead and take every ride at $3-10 each and pocket your what, $80? While Joe Cherrypicker walks with $240 in the same time span!

I agree calling to discern distance is uncool. But the 45-60+ notifications make calling unnecessary. 3 shots on uber before they toss you outta the queue. Unlimited shots on Lyft. Sheee-it if long ride notifications were reliable I'd be a cherrypicking insert expletive!

 

Honestly I don't queue well.

Only thing I see in his post is more people waiting for cab? As an occasional annoying pax I can say if I got Drivers calling me for destination especially if Uber and not 45+ away I would get pissed and probably opting for a cab.

Just being honest here.

Less riders hurts you all.

 

The only time I cherrypick is at big events (concerts/sporting events etc.) I haven't done an airport Queue in a LONG time.

Here's a free tip for you guys/gals that do Lyft at airports: DF.

Not IN the lot but find some spot near the airport and set Lyft DF for some far off location. I have done this and gotten multiple pings when there's been 30 in the Queue.

oh man, why you have to go and tell them that... ok here's the scoop on what is going on. over a year ago, they discovered a glitch in the geo fence and related code where there was a " go to" function that was misdirected. if a pax req a ride and then cancel it would not send the request to the geo fence area known as the "que", it would send the request to nearest avail car NOT IN THE QUE. this was fixed, but you have to know that fuber uses alot of h1b visa techs and someone reused a patch of old code that has the miss-directed go to function in the coding. this was reported and fixed, but the dummies reuse older code to avoid rewriting it.... can't fix stupid.

 

Only thing worse than cherrypickers are cherrypickers who cherry pick at base rates. Those that want 60 mile rides out to the boonies that pay $50 with no chance of getting a ride back. Making $50 for 120 miles and 3-4 hours of driving is almost as bad as a $2.62 fare down the street. At least then you could go back in the queue and get a ride to a more profitable area

 

Friends don’t let friends wait in queues. Even if you win a good fare, you still lose because you sat there for an hour first.

Get yo rating up, get riders out in the streets.

 

I don’t cherrypick at airports when I do go there except that I won’t take one without a surge of 1.7 and above, and the minimum goes up depending on traffic and demand. And I’m usually not there unless I am dropping off or the entire city is dead, or it’s Sunday night. I will not go there if there are multiple events in the city.

This way I hedge against losses no matter what ride I get. If it’s a long ride Im still making money even with a deadhead back. If it’s short I will have a good chance of making a minimum of $10-20 through Uber $10 guarantee, surge, by earning a tip, and still being close to the queue l.

 

People who choose to drive ride-share and complain about the pay are morons. You are choosing this line of work.

 

Maybe. Then again, some of us need the money and this is quick and easy. Doesn't mean we have to like the low pay and constant lies and manipulations. Get out of your little bubble.

 

Unbelievable how many drivers are not looking outside the box.

“Cherrypicking is needed to make good profit at the airport”. Really...

Like just an hour ago a lady called me to ask me if I was going to cancel because two ******** canceled on her, it was 12am. You know that if service at the airport is going to get this way eventually the airports will kick Uber and Lyft out. Then it means NO money for you or anybody else. If your sole purpose of working is to make the most money you can and not to provide good service that means you are messed up. Good service means more usage, more DEMAND. The more rides you do without hesitation other than safety the more people uses our service and the more money we make. But no... “I want the money now who cares about the rider”. Why the H are you driving for Uber/Lyft then if you are angry with the company? When jobs make you fell uneasy YOU QUIT.

Most short rides I do from the airport I get good tips sometimes earning the same as in a long ride without spending that much in gas. THINK. Uber allowed tips recently. The better the service the better the probability of a tip. Nobody likes short rides after hours waiting of course but lots of the occasions that happens to me, after I see the tip I think “It ended up well”.

It is a matter of time for the airports to completely ban Uber and Lyft thanks to you. Now I see why cab companies keep getting people in the airports. At the end they will still be there while Uber and Lyft end up banned again because cherrypickers work only for money and not good service and money.