[UberLaLa]

Like I said easy to get the money back from Uber after you report the driver for fraud.

Nah....Uber has your number. They only do 2 or 3 at the most of those...then they realize the time suck and put you on ignore.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Nah....Uber has your number. They only do 2 or 3 at the most of those...then they realize the time suck and put you on ignore.

Perhaps but after a few times the driver is reported for such actions they just deactivate him or her. I have never not received a refund when something like that happens.

 

[UberLaLa]

Perhaps but after a few times the driver is reported for such actions they just deactivate him or her. I have never not received a refund when something like that happens.

Or so you think. Uber actually does not deactivate that easily any longer. They have come to understand they need drivers more than riders...you guys are a dime a dozen that is much more easily replaced.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Or so you think. Uber actually does not deactivate that easily any longer. They have come to understand they need drivers more than riders...you guys are a dime a dozen that is much more easily replaced.

Like I said that is between you and Uber I don't care what happens as I already have my money back from such fraudulent activity and have no further skin in the game.

 

[UberLaLa]

Like I said that is between you and Uber I don't care what happens as I already have my money back from such fraudulent activity and have no further skin in the game.

Except you are left standing there waiting for another car while the driver that rejected you is off driving another passenger.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Except you are left standing there waiting for another car while the driver that rejected you is off driving another passenger.

Perhaps a problem in less populated areas where I live it never takes more than five minutes at the most to get an Uber or Lyft.

 

[UberLaLa]

Perhaps a problem in less populated areas where I live it never takes more than five minutes at the most to get an Uber or Lyft.

Five minutes is five minutes....and that after waiting the previous five minutes. And maybe, just maybe, next driver will do same. Drivers are getting smarter.

 

[Jesusdrivesuber]

It took lyft 20 minutes to pay me for a pax canceled trip last time, a world of a difference in support.

And we wonder why drivers track back people through their destination to go beat them with crowbar later that day.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Five minutes is five minutes....and that after waiting the previous five minutes. And maybe, just maybe, next driver will do same. Drivers are getting smarter.

Nope, I more than likely already have my next ride there before you get done messing around with your timer, There are multiple services and multiple people traveling who can order said services. Drivers who try and pull scams like you suggest are honestly very small in number most drivers actually just do the job that they agreed at the compensation already agreed upon without much fuss at all.

 

[UberLaLa]

Nope, I more than likely already have my next ride there before you get done messing around with your timer, There are multiple services and multiple people traveling who can order said services. Drivers who try and pull scams like you suggest are honestly very small in number most drivers actually just do the job that they agreed at the compensation already agreed upon without much fuss at all.

No scam at all. Drivers are independent contractors. They only agree to the trip once they have all the details. Similar to passenger requesting the ride, if once the car arrives if they do not like anything about it or the driver they can cancel. Driver has same option to reject the trip when the rider does not Show Up.

 

[Uberfunitis]

No scam at all. Drivers are independent contractors. They only agree to the trip once they have all the details. Similar to passenger requesting the ride, if once the car arrives if they do not like anything about it or the driver they can cancel. Driver has same option to reject the trip when the rider does not Show Up.

In your situation the rider did show up they just did not agree to your additional compensation that is outside what was already agreed upon. If Uber considers that fraud or not trying to get a no show out of that situation is between you and Uber. I just know that I will not be paying a no show for you attempting to renegotiate the agreement.

 

[UberLaLa]

In your situation the rider did show up they just did not agree to your additional compensation that is outside what was already agreed upon. If Uber considers that fraud or not trying to get a no show out of that situation is between you and Uber. I just know that I will not be paying a no show for you attempting to renegotiate the agreement.

No renegotiation here. It's in your Rider App. Driver simply pointing it out and advising passenger of their choices. Once passenger, who did not follow their Rider TOS opts to not comply, they can Cancel or pay the No Show fee.

 

[Uberfunitis]

No renegotiation here. It's in your Rider App. Driver simply pointing it out and advising passenger of their choices. Once passenger, who did not follow their Rider TOS opts to not comply, they can Cancel or pay the No Show fee.

Good luck with that, I will let you and Uber fight that one out. It has no impact on me as I get my money back for reporting fraud and stating that you are demanding additional compensation. I will make sure that you cancel though so that you get the cancelation hit.

 

[UberLaLa]

Good luck with that, I will let you and Uber fight that one out. It has no impact on me as I get my money back for reporting fraud and stating that you are demanding additional compensation. I will make sure that you cancel though so that you get the cancelation hit.

Nah....Uber no longer hits drivers with Cancellation when it's Rider No Show. And there is always Lyft. You see, it isn't like it used to be. Uber has reeled you passengers in and the tide has shifted. It's a Driver's world now. Uber does not need passengers that do not understand their TOS any longer.

Best thing for passengers like you, moving forward, is to call the driver as soon as they Accept the Trip. Politely request that they will take you out of area and let them know you are willing to pay the surcharge for such. Otherwise you have that first five minute wait; add the five minute wait to be Cancelled on as a No Show; then the five minute wait for next car to very possibly do same. Time is money. Take responsibility for your trip and unique circumstances and you will be fine.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Nah....Uber no longer hits drivers with Cancellation when it's Rider No Show. And there is always Lyft. You see, it isn't like it used to be. Uber has reeled you passengers in and the tide has shifted. It's a Driver's world now. Uber does not need passengers that do not understand their TOS any longer.

Best thing for passengers like you, moving forward, is to call the driver as soon as they Accept the Trip. Politely request that they will take you out of area and let them know you are willing to pay the surcharge for such. Otherwise you have that first five minute wait; add the five minute wait to be Cancelled on as a No Show; then the five minute wait for next car to very possibly do same. Time is money. Take responsibility for your trip and unique circumstances and you will be fine.

Nope no difference today. They may not care about your cancelation no show but they will care about the report of fraud and you demanding additional compensation. I do think that I will start ordering both Uber and Lyft and the first one there that accepts the trip with no problem gets the trip. If I get picked up by a driver than I just cancel the other vehicle. Could even have this multiple times as each rider in my party does it.

 

[UberLaLa]

Nope no difference today. They may not care about your cancelation no show but they will care about the report of fraud and you demanding additional compensation.

Nah...it's in their Passenger TOS. Uber advises their drivers to negotiate this additional cost up front. And after the driver reports passenger for difficult...along with wasting both the driver's and Uber's time by ordering an Out of Area ride without knowing the TOS, and then being difficult when the TOS is explained to them, Uber will definitely block that passenger from inconveniencing that driver again. And, over time, as more drivers report that difficult passenger as well...said passenger will lose access to the platform.

 

[Uberfunitis]

Nah...it's in their Passenger TOS. Uber advises their drivers to negotiate this additional cost up front. And after the driver reports passenger for difficult...along with wasting both the driver's and Uber's time by ordering an Out of Area ride without knowing the TOS, and then being difficult when the TOS is explained to them, Uber will definitely block that passenger from inconveniencing that driver again. And, over time, as more drivers report that difficult passenger as well...said passenger will lose access to the platform.

We shall see, I have never had a problem yet and always get my money back when a driver attempts such. If that changes I will reevaluate until that time I will just keep on.

 

[UberLaLa]

We shall see, I have never had a problem yet and always get my money back when a driver attempts such. If that changes I will reevaluate until that time I will just keep on.

You will definitely get your money back, no argument there. It's the time it costs you and the hit you take to your passenger app.

Simply call driver in future and let them know you are traveling out of area and would like to make the trip fair for both yourself and them. If the driver is not helpful or cooperative, cancel right then. No charge to you or your passenger rep with Uber.

Best!

 

[Uberfunitis]

You will definitely get your money back, no argument there. It's the time it costs you and the hit you take to your passenger app.

Simply call driver in future and let them know you are traveling out of area and would like to make the trip fair for both yourself and them. If the driver is not helpful or cooperative, cancel right then. No charge to you or your passenger rep with Uber.

Best!

Nope, I will change nothing like that. If a driver does not want to do the job than they can cancel and I will find another driver who is willing. I don't find it costs all that much time as there are very very few who do not do the trip as already agreed. It would cost me more time and aggravation to call when it is such a small number of drivers who do give problems and the chances are that I will have no problem.

 

[UberLaLa]

Nope, I will change nothing like that. If a driver does not want to do the job than they can cancel and I will find another driver who is willing. I don't find it costs all that much time as there are very very few who do not do the trip as already agreed. It would cost me more time and aggravation to call when it is such a small number of drivers who do give problems and the chances are that I will have no problem.

Well you see...there lies the rub then. And I do thank you for helping me educate many many drivers on this via this thread discussion we have had.