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Just a hunch but I'll go out a limb and say that Uber's take rate in Seattle is the lowest in the US.

4.3K views 38 replies 11 participants last post by  Schmanthony  
#1 ·
In most of the US drivers' pay is being CUT while Uber's take rate is RISING.

Contrast that scenario with Seattle, where drivers have the highest pay rates in the US.

Uber is required to pay Seattle drivers $1.50 Per Mile, $0.64 Per Minute, and $5.17 Minimum Fare. Thus, Uber is forced to charge higher fares just to pay the drivers. This in turn LIMITS the amount Uber can "markup" their rides.

In other words, the whopping 60%, 70%, and 80% cuts Uber is grabbing in other markets aren't possible in Seattle due to the astronomical prices they'd be required to charge Seattle pax to achieve those massive cuts.

In order for Uber to grab 80% of a Seattle ride they'd have to charge prices so high it would be cheaper for the pax to hire private jets (I exaggerate only slightly).
 
#2 ·
Just a hunch, but I bet it costs a fortune to get around Seattle by rideshare. The local govt there encourages public transport by making it a ***** to use a personal vehicle with parking issues, etc. Seems like the citizens there are getting the short end of the stick.

Moral of the story: Someone always gets ****ed when govt starts forcing money transfer. It’s usually not the woke companies in bed with them.
 
#5 ·
Just a hunch, but I bet it costs a fortune to get around Seattle by rideshare. The local govt there encourages public transport by making it a * to use a personal vehicle with parking issues, etc. Seems like the citizens there are getting the short end of the stick.

Moral of the story: Someone always gets ****ed when govt starts forcing money transfer. It’s usually not the woke companies in bed with them.
Exactly, in my market where the rates are high we get tourists which use Uber at first until they get to a business and they tell them the taxis are cheaper. Then the hotels are getting in on the action with their own service because so many of their guests are asking about another less expensive transportation option.

Then we get drivers who are coming from 3 hours away just because their meter is higher, not taking into effect the costs involved.

Ubers here only get busy at peak times when the taxis get overloaded, so why I have to be online 18 hours a day.
 
#3 ·
Honestly it might get ridership up with King County metro (Is this what it's called or am I confusing it with somewhere?)

When people can't afford their uber to work and have to take the bus instead that's more money into the governments hands isn't it?
 
#6 ·
Uber is not grabbing 60%, 70% and 80% of the cut.

On an annual basis it's more like 30-35%.

It might be a bit higher until the monthly insurance premiums for the two policies are paid off, but it's quite reasonable considering they handle billing, customer service, insurance, government regulations and lawsuits.

You can calculate what they take when you get your 1099.
 
#15 ·
Uber is still losing money to drivers in Chicago who refuse to accept crap trips. Currently this week I'm at $638 in the app and Uber is -$215. Uber loses money to me every single week.
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You're always bragging and passing judgement on other drivers yet you never post screenshots that present legitimate proof. The statement you posted is so limited it's a joke.

Post screenshots that include breakdowns of specific rides, daily, weekly, and monthly earnings, etc.

Normally I would never ask anyone to post their earnings data but braggarts are a different story. If you're gonna brag and lecture other drivers I say put up or shut up.
 
#12 ·
In most of the US drivers' pay is being CUT while Uber's take rate is RISING.

Contrast that scenario with Seattle, where drivers have the highest pay rates in the US.
This is no different than how pax in the ghetto are charges less than people in middle class or affluent areas.

Basically, some areas subsidize operations in other areas. Low take rate in Seattle just means they had to screw drivers/passengers elsewhere a little more.

If middle class people knew they were subsidizing ghetto rides, they would be none too happy. This past weekend I did a couple longer rides from ghetto areas. The pay was $27ish and the pax paid 30ish. They people living in the Ghetto think they are entitled to a 45 minute private car ride between cities for $30.

The UFP allows Uber to skew things even more since there isn't a rate card.
 
#14 ·
Basically, some areas subsidize operations in other areas. Low take rate in Seattle just means they had to screw drivers/passengers elsewhere a little more.
Uber tries to extract every last cent out of the drivers and pax regardless of what happens in Seattle or anywhere else.

If the Seattle law vanished today Uber wouldn't pay me or any other driver one red cent more.
 
#28 · (Edited)
It was surging just now around my house because of rain, so just for @Nats121 I went out and knocked out a couple of trips:
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Uber lost $5.16 on the first trip:
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And $18.42 on the second trip:
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Is this enough for you @Nats121 or do you need to see the entire trip details for these? How many more trips do I need to show you? This makes 3 so far. I have thousands more.
 
#36 · (Edited)
I did 7 trips for Uber this morning and grossed $166. I heard from a couple of passengers how much they paid, and it was well above what I was being paid. One guy told me his fare was over $40 while I was being paid $18, One lady told me her fare was $25 while I was being paid $15. So I thought, if Uber is finally gonna make a profit on me over a whole shift, THIS would the one. So when I got home I actually looked at Uber's take on each trip I did:

1. -13.30
2. 20.61
3. 5.77
4. -10.51
5. 8.40
6. 2.06
7. -3.57
8. -0.46

Added up, Uber's take on these 8 rides comes to $9 even... so congrats Uber, you made a little coin off me this morning! Except wait... my 20-ride weekend Quest is for $35, or $1.75/trip. $1.75 * 8 trips is $14, meaning as long as I hit that Quest (which I will unless my car dies or I get hit by a bus), Uber is now at a loss on me this morning by -$5 LOLZ

@Nats121, do you need screenshots? Anyone else?

BTW, @Nats121, things that happen frequently (such as Uber losing money on trips in Chicago) aren't "unicorns."