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Is this why some drivers are leaving the gig?

24K views 235 replies 71 participants last post by  Heisenburger  
#1 ·
Is this why some drivers are leaving the gig?
 

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#3 ·
Thanks TF. I just see all these complaint threads all day every day and have been trying to learn what all the fuss is about. In those threads, users aren't specific and just toss out vague allegations of low pay with just walls of text and tossing out seemingly random figures for dollars and cents and miles and minutes. It's just bewildering to the rest of us.

It's my sincere hope if we can all share specific real-world examples (with screenshot, not these vague rambling memories of trip details from yesterday and last week and last month).
 
#7 ·
Oh my God, so frigging lame.

"Sweet" "Sweet" "Sweet"

I'm about to puke. 🤢

What the 60 laid off woosies at Lyft are now at Uber?

What's next? Sugar corn fairies and pink mustaches?

Lyft going to merge with Uber?
 
#14 ·
I'm not sure of the point here. Humblebrags?

Not being a dick here but the UberX ones are meh. The tips helped a little. I realize with the Upfront Pricing scheme you want shorties but thet would drive me away (no pun intended).

The deliveries I can't comment on since I don't do deliveries but one said you got extra wait time pay and it was $11 and change.

If it's working for you and you're happy then that's all that matters.
 
#19 ·
I'm not sure of the point here.
Just FYI: I explained it here:

I just see all these complaint threads all day every day and have been trying to learn what all the fuss is about. In those threads, users aren't specific and just toss out vague allegations of low pay with just walls of text and tossing out seemingly random figures for dollars and cents and miles and minutes. It's just bewildering to the rest of us. It's my sincere hope if we can all share specific real-world examples (with screenshot, not these vague rambling memories of trip details from yesterday and last week and last month).
Not being a dick here but the UberX ones are meh.
Yeah, my $0.22/mile costs are just eating up these revenues.

The deliveries I can't comment on since I don't do deliveries but one said you got extra wait time pay and it was $11 and change.
6 UberX trips, zero deliveries.

Oh…you’re…bragging?!?
Just FYI: I explained it here:

I just see all these complaint threads all day every day and have been trying to learn what all the fuss is about. In those threads, users aren't specific and just toss out vague allegations of low pay with just walls of text and tossing out seemingly random figures for dollars and cents and miles and minutes. It's just bewildering to the rest of us. It's my sincere hope if we can all share specific real-world examples (with screenshot, not these vague rambling memories of trip details from yesterday and last week and last month).
 
#18 ·
They're leaving the app because Uber attempts to take advantage of low IQ, they always try to get 1 over on you. For example the other day I picked up a $8 surge by the airport while I was on the highway driving back to town, so I expected to get back to the boost area and get a ride with both. Instead I get within a mile of the boundary, and Uber sends me a $0.50/mile ride that with the surge only came out to what I'd typically cherrypick for anyways. And it went to the hood and left me deadheading back late for boost. I see they do this often, I cherrypick for rides that are $1/mile or more, but when there's boost or surge they'll give out rides that are $0.50/mile or less and all surge/boost ends up doing is making shitty rides acceptable. My acceptance rate has never been so low than the past 6 months :ROFLMAO:
 
#24 ·
I can show you pic after pic of 50¢ or LOWER all day long.

One trip $11 on the guy next to me while mine comes up $9.50.

167 miles for $96, that does not include return trip money or miles.

$2 $3 $4 surges for drivers while ubers collecting $5 $6 $7 dollar surges from pax.

Unfair and bias rating schemes to demoralize and force drivers to accept every trip when most are not monetarily profitable for the driver, just to get third-party incentives that usually don't work out to anything equivalent to the money that you're actually losing and most rides

A guilty until proven guilty system of complaint handling. With no recourse of proving yourself correct unless you are very lucky and have all the right words and a dash cam for proof.

Where somebody that's having a bad day, can decide that they going to make your life hell by false claims.

The list goes on.

So where did you want to start?
 
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One trip $11 on the guy next to me while mine comes up $9.50.
Is the guy next to you also complaining about his $11 offer because he knows another guy was offered $12.50? Is the $12.50 guy also complaining because he heard about yet another guy who was offered $14?

167 miles for $96, that does not include return trip money or miles.
I'm confused. When has any rideshare company ever paid for return miles? Ever. So why complain about something that's been ongoing since day one for over a decade and is clearly inherent to the model?

$2 $3 $4 surges for drivers while ubers collecting $5 $6 $7 dollar surges from pax.
Sounds like basic capitalism. Companies of all shapes and sizes routinely rake in gross revenues that far exceed their labor expenses, on a percentage basis.

force drivers to accept every trip
Not me because my AR is 68% over the past 30 days. And not many others either because I see many braggarts (or paid shills) on here proud of their single digit or teens AR.

Why do you care?
I'm an intensely curious person and student of human psychology. I appreciate you inquiring as it illustrates your curiosity too. Celebrate curiosity!
 
#31 ·
I don;t give a crap about your few lucky days of good trips.

Tell me about your 401k, your paid time off, your health insurance. How much money are you putting aside to replace that car you are driving into the ground? Zero? All this is the reason I quit and laugh at the drivers who still think they are 'winning'.

FWIW I make $37 an hour as a mechanic with FULL benefits. 40 hours a week.

Please tell me more about your Uber gig lol
 
#57 ·
There are many types of drivers who surely are suffering from low take-home pay from rideshare these days. Off the top of my head:
  • Drivers who are in dead markets.
  • Drivers who are in over-saturated markets.
  • Drivers who always/often accept stacked pings and just take them wherever they go.
  • Drivers who rent their cars.
  • Drivers who burn themselves out chasing the highest Quests possible.
  • Drivers who can't or don't want to drive at times or in places when/where there is persistent high surge.
 
#58 ·
There are many types of drivers who surely are suffering from low take-home pay from rideshare these days. Off the top of my head:
  • Drivers who are in dead markets.
  • Drivers who are in over-saturated markets.
  • Drivers who always/often accept stacked pings and just take them wherever they go.
  • Drivers who rent their cars.
  • Drivers who burn themselves out chasing the highest Quests possible.
  • Drivers who can't or don't want to drive at times or in places when there is persistent high surge.
100% agree. And one or more of these applies to the vast majority of drivers. I guess I'm lucky. Either that or I'm in a cult.
 
#65 ·
Well if you’re still sitting in your car after five years then you’ll never get it anyway doesn’t matter how well the rates were five years ago right if you’re sitting in your car still you’re probably just either don’t wanna work or still think you’re making money. How cheap is too cheap for you. Maybe you get food stamps or some kind of public assistance maybe smoke crack Or maybe you have a side hussle at home because to be honest you don’t sound that stupid, but who knows I don’t know you. I was just giving perspective you were just being an asshole.
 
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I get that is a good money (Screenshorts). I have to work in Panama 10 hours to get 70.00 dollars. Take out from that the 20.00 gas I have to put in, net return 50.00 per day. Which is not bad for the regular salary, but that is 10 hours no stop, no brakes, my knees is broke now and I had to take another approach to the game that will be to only take the good rides because is killing me. The rides in some occasions are 15-25 min to get to the pick up area for 2.50 rides. In the mead time Uber is taking the 30% of my work just because they connect 2 persons, share gps and stablish the fee. I believe they HAVE to take more care of there drivers because there are A LOT of opportunities to improve. Its just a matter of time that some American Copy app will fix this and Uber will be part of Big companies that FAIL just because they didn't wanted to listen.

I personally have started a research for invest in a platform that is LIKE UBER but 100% from my countries because there is a lot of things that can be improve. Starting with a fee of 10% to the drivers, explaining the extra fee to the users when they are too far and if they don't agree suggest to wait a little bit and we will be providing a live price option. Making deals with gas stations and cars accessories to provide discounts to the associates. Start conversations with a bank to support new associates. Make deals with repair shops for the associates. Thinks that actually help the drivers and in the end the users because a better service will be provided.

But no, they received this 30% from all the rides per day, and there is NOTHING NEW DONE....no improvements. NOTHING.
 
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I get that is a good money (Screenshorts). I have to work in Panama 10 hours to get 70.00 dollars. Take out from that the 20.00 gas I have to put in, net return 50.00 per day. Which is not bad for the regular salary, but that is 10 hours no stop, no brakes, my knees is broke now and I had to take another approach to the game that will be to only take the good rides because is killing me. The rides in some occasions are 15-25 min to get to the pick up area for 2.50 rides. In the mead time Uber is taking the 30% of my work just because they connect 2 persons, share gps and stablish the fee. I believe they HAVE to take more care of there drivers because there are A LOT of opportunities to improve. Its just a matter of time that some American Copy app will fix this and Uber will be part of Big companies that FAIL just because they didn't wanted to listen.

I personally have started a research for invest in a platform that is LIKE UBER but 100% from my countries because there is a lot of things that can be improve. Starting with a fee of 10% to the drivers, explaining the extra fee to the users when they are too far and if they don't agree suggest to wait a little bit and we will be providing a live price option. Making deals with gas stations and cars accessories to provide discounts to the associates. Start conversations with a bank to support new associates. Make deals with repair shops for the associates. Thinks that actually help the drivers and in the end the users because a better service will be provided.

But no, they received this 30% from all the rides per day, and there is NOTHING NEW DONE....no improvements. NOTHING.
The sloution to the problem is....stop driving for Uber OR lyft this includes deliverys. AT BEST after you deduct your cost and depreciation you are making minimum wage or less and that is not including any income tax you might have to pay. Then on top of that you are doing a very dangerous job. Drivers are getting killed and assaulted by riders and fraudulent riders. You are paying all the cost, doing all the work and taking all the risk all for $5 an hour. Only a fool would do this. Get a real job, unless of course you are to lazy to work or you are for some reason unemployable. When I first stared driving when Uber was new I was getting a true 80% and 2 to $3 a mile. As the platform grew older and 80% turned into 50% after 5 years and the destruction of my car by rude inconsiderate riders, as well as being attacked twice, forcing me to defend myself, I told Uber to get F#@ked. So like I said, stop driving or stop compalining!!
 
#116 ·
Every one of us has trips like this, what is the point?

Not every one lives in a city like Atlanta or DC and not every one get 500 quests.


How much of that is promo money? Tips? How many rides?

Details man ?

Mu quest have been 15-20 for 20 the last 2 months.

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In Charlotte the bottom quest is 20/$60 another 10 gets you 30 more but during the week it sucks 20/20 and another 20 for 10 more rides.