Transportation business has changed in NYC - good news. Technology rocks. Why did Yellow guys keep complaining so much rather than just become Uber drivers and calling it a day? They know the best routes, they are efficient. That would have been a benefit to pax.

While I get that they might not want to do the whole "be nice" and " accelerate slowly", they are pretty skilled guys. Now, I understand why Yellow garages / medallion owners would hate Uber/Lyft, but the drivers? They could have just jumped ship.

I don't want to abridge Uber / Lyft's nasty money-making tactics, by the way. They really should have paid the drivers even a little more, eliminated the rating system (because it is stressful and doesn't matter at all as long as the person arrives safely), and been more kind to the drivers.

We wouldn't have a cap because there would not have been a lot of complaints from the people who mattered. Only medallion owners would be complaining, but it's only a few of them!

The blaming of uber went to overkill. Yes, uber has done wrong things. But at the same time uber created more jobs and more rides.

 

Low paying jobs and putting people in cars they can't afford. Together with the rental companies who scam the drivers. Yea they created jobs and revenue but not for the drivers.

 

Uber did big mistake when they cut 15% of the fare many drivers turned around in uber ..... yellow cap drivers used to make 400$ a day cash .... If you driving a cap and you use to make cash in your hand every day you will never do uber or Lyft and sharing fare with them

 

Uberinghonda
I feel the same way about that topic.

Deadheart I can see what you mean. I can just imagine them doing good record-keeping and declaring all $400/day on their tax returns!

 

Uber pays below minimum wage and they do not provide vehicles like Yellow.

 

JoeJoseph That's an easy fix.... Uber could do more to subsidize the rentals, actually - even as an inducement. What if Uber said, "If you're grossing over $1,000/week, then Uber will pay $150 toward your car rental/lease." That would take the car rental from $400/wk to $250/wk.

The thing, though, is that you'd have to commit to Uber because you'd want to meet the minimum, right?

If Uber even acted like they cared more for the issues plaguing NYC FHV drivers, then I think these drivers would never have protested against them to City Hall - and they wouldn't be paying millions in campaigns to stop regulation!

 

Yellow cab drivers were earning more without having to kiss anyone's butt.
Aux cable-no
Change the radio station-no
Spring water-no
Stop talking on the phone-no

 

i take those without pay increase.

 

yellow still makes more, as long as they know what they are doing, dont drink the koolaid

 

Uber is the worst ,and it is fudalisam or slavery. People don't have jobs in other sector and they come to Uber.
Uber cares just about inriching themselves . Not employees,owners.

 

Uber is the worst ,and it is fudalisam or slavery. People don't have jobs in other sector and they come to Uber.
Uber cares just about inriching themselves . Not employees,owners.

Seriously someone please tell him to go away !

He's getting more sad & miserable by the day with his petty postings ...

 

yellow cab drivers, I agree with you.... maybe this has to do with the cost of either owning a car or renting/leasing one for Uber...
but Medallion owners is another story.

 

Transportation business has changed in NYC - good news. Technology rocks. Why did Yellow guys keep complaining so much rather than just become Uber drivers and calling it a day? They know the best routes, they are efficient. That would have been a benefit to pax.

While I get that they might not want to do the whole "be nice" and " accelerate slowly", they are pretty skilled guys. Now, I understand why Yellow garages / medallion owners would hate Uber/Lyft, but the drivers? They could have just jumped ship.

I don't want to abridge Uber / Lyft's nasty money-making tactics, by the way. They really should have paid the drivers even a little more, eliminated the rating system (because it is stressful and doesn't matter at all as long as the person arrives safely), and been more kind to the drivers.

We wouldn't have a cap because there would not have been a lot of complaints from the people who mattered. Only medallion owners would be complaining, but it's only a few of them!

Where did this guy come from. Why would yellow drivers downgrade and earn less? Why earn $35 to jfk when in yellow u can earn $70? Why would u keep feeeding the monster in uber? Theres a reason 90% of the time i get business and elderly folks in my yellow.

 

Say it with me driving for uber is not a job

Uber is a job!

 

Transportation business has changed in NYC - good news. Technology rocks. Why did Yellow guys keep complaining so much rather than just become Uber drivers and calling it a day? They know the best routes, they are efficient. That would have been a benefit to pax.

While I get that they might not want to do the whole "be nice" and " accelerate slowly", they are pretty skilled guys. Now, I understand why Yellow garages / medallion owners would hate Uber/Lyft, but the drivers? They could have just jumped ship.

I don't want to abridge Uber / Lyft's nasty money-making tactics, by the way. They really should have paid the drivers even a little more, eliminated the rating system (because it is stressful and doesn't matter at all as long as the person arrives safely), and been more kind to the drivers.

We wouldn't have a cap because there would not have been a lot of complaints from the people who mattered. Only medallion owners would be complaining, but it's only a few of them!

Alot of drivers did jump ship thats why all 13k yellow cabs are NOT on the road like they were b4 Uber.

 

No it didnt you fake driver. Looks at the stats before and after uber.

Yes it did. Stats don't count for much in this business. It's like McDonald's crying about losing business to Five Guys, Subway and Chipotle.

 

Statistics is how outcomes are reflected as a whole. Jeez looks like you never opened a book. Not even the tlc book you phony azz wannabe driver.

 

The blaming of uber went to overkill. Yes, uber has done wrong things. But at the same time uber created more jobs and more rides.

You are so right Uber has created many good middle to Uber class jobs. Since joining Uber I have been able to finally buy a nice although small house. Two years later we upgraded to a better neighborhood. The following year we installed an in ground pool. I am putting my 3 kids through college along with one from my wife's previous marriage. My wife is thinking of finally going back to finish her Masters Degree in Psychology. Uber has been a god send to my family. When business picks up in the Fall I'll go back to a four day work week, working 4 1/2 days per week is brutal. Just sayin.

 

Just last week I bought off a whole block of townhouses for cash from clueless people who sold their homes for half their value. I plan on razing them to the ground and build a huge 12 story building, with retail spaces on the first floor. I will build a huge garage behind the building and it will be open to the public. I will make lots of money. Thanks to the money I made from uber. Life is great.

 

I've been in NYC and took both UBER and Taxi. I found taxis to be nearly as cheap as UBER. Taxis gave me the ability to immediately hail and get a ride. There are still dozens everywhere you look. The only negative is that you have to pull out your credit card.

 

This is like asking why didn't all mom and pop shop owner's close down their small business when Walmart and Amazon opened up shop.

A lot of yellows have a lot of money and time invested. Same with a lot of taxi companies and owner operators. Some bought expensive medallions. In hindsight, why would they have wanted to just close down, took huge losses, and work for minimum wage?

 

But they did advertise you could make a certain amount of money driving a certain amount of hours which they know to be false.

Caveat emptor is Latin for "Let the buyer beware" it's a basic of all business transactions.
We're responsible for doing our own Due Diligence (a comprehensive appraisal of a business undertaken by a prospective buyer, especially to establish its assets and liabilities and evaluate its commercial potential)

I've been in NYC and took both UBER and Taxi. I found taxis to be nearly as cheap as UBER. Taxis gave me the ability to immediately hail and get a ride. There are still dozens everywhere you look. The only negative is that you have to pull out your credit card.

Fare level is not the main issue. Main issue kdyrpr is availability of ground transportation in certain outlying areas where taxis do not travel

 

In my opinion, you need not prove anything to anyone. This is an open forum for anyone who wants to participate - drivers or nondrivers. I'm over the moon that you're doing so well. The whole "buying a row of townhouses" thing is a bit ostentatious but if it's true, you're definitely doing well and that's AMAZING.

I was being sarcastic. I don't own any of those. Just imagining living in a world where u can make tons of money driving for uber.

Anybody can get a screenshot. You are still phony. Come have a coffee with me then. Friendly convo ^_^

I don't know where to get these screenshots. Why would I waste my time searching for them, tough guy?

This is like asking why didn't all mom and pop shop owner's close down their small business when Walmart and Amazon opened up shop.

A lot of yellows have a lot of money and time invested. Same with a lot of taxi companies and owner operators. Some bought expensive medallions. In hindsight, why would they have wanted to just close down, took huge losses, and work for minimum wage?

It is the city's fault for putting a cap on yellow medallions, making the medallions price skyrocket. If they wanted to help the yellow cabbies they should stop with the caps and help the current cabbies to pay off the medallions, similar to the U.S. government's plan when helping homeowners pay off their mortgages.

 

Ah, the fine points. I hear you, but that's the basis of my resistance to government involvement in what should be private issues. We live in a so-called FREE COUNTRY yet everything is so tightly regulated. Government should have NO involvement in people's medallion sales, but there are all these layers of review to purchase one, etc. Rules about when you can cross the street (why???). First amendment issues (exclusions to free speech.... like seriously? What happened to inalienable rights? lol ) Anyway, I think the government should be liable to those medallion holders based on the argument you presented... but as a matter of civil / tort liability (a civil wrong) rather than a bailout. They should acknowledge their wrongdoing and stop doing wrongly!

 

The city is to blame. They scammed all those hard working drivers and sold put to uber. We have to have regulations for everything, im not happy about how they regulate everything there is but the other option to not regulate anything seems like a worse idea in my opinion. I dont believe "rights" exist. We made them up. I call them privileges. Furthermore the citys legislation on medallions was in place for a good reason. Thats why it worked for so long. So in that sense it cant be categorized as a civil matter per say due to the fact that the law was in place for the protection of a vital part of nyc. The cabbies. It has to be profitable or else why would anybody invest in such a high risk? And imagine the city without the cabbies. Yea it would fall apart easily, productivity would decrease tremendously and hurting the economy. In short i agree with you in couple of points, we arent in the perfect world after all. However why is there rules to cross the street? Because if you get killed whose responsible? The driver who was texting or the idiot who crossed when they werent supposed to? There would chaos everywhere.

 

half of the guys that drove Yellow now drive Apps.. they left because they were tired of the Politics going on in the Bases.. having to give the dispatcher money to get the Car and waiting over an hour to get a Car.. that’s the reason most switched.. only reason why I’m upset with Uber n Lyft is because y’all took all the Hoodrat Hoochies I used to bring home.. they all Ride in Uber n Lyft.. they don’t take Yellow Cabs no more lmfaooo

 

Coffee? Heck, I offered a full dinner and there were no takers... and I was paying!

Yeah?

Wait a minute. Enough of the bailouts. People make bad investments all the time. They invested and they lost fair and square. Why a bailout ? Can people who lose money in the stock market be bailed out? What about the thousands of people who lost millions yesterday on Tesla stocks when it tanked? What about the Enron victims.... investors in Blockbuster when Netflix came out ? Come one.... I don't believe in this... take the loss and keep it moving.

If the city didn't have that cap on medallions the price would not have gone so high. So they are partially responsible for the price of medallions, along with the drivers who shouldn't have invested in something that they will take too long to pay. And then you have rhe city wasting money on things it shouldn't be spending on. At least this would be to make some drivers' lives better.

 

Yeah?

Ironic huh.

 

Where did this guy come from. Why would yellow drivers downgrade and earn less? Why earn $35 to jfk when in yellow u can earn $70? Why would u keep feeeding the monster in uber? Theres a reason 90% of the time i get business and elderly folks in my yellow.

Because after the daily, weekly, monthly rental costs of a yellow what the driver keeps is about the same between uber and yellow.
But that only applies to your example.

From what I've heard from pax is that they pay about the same between an uber and a yellow.
But I havent driven yellow so I am going on hearsay.