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So your argument is that hiring good drivers doesn't fit Uber's business model. Sounds like a flawed business model doesn't it?
you twisted my words there. regardless, i'm definitely not denying that uber is a poorly managed business. their model has set them up for very high driver turnover. uber is understood to be a pretty shit gig now, basically minimum wage. they lose thousands of drivers a day. therefore they need to gain even more drivers than they lose to further expand. any kind of roadblock or speedbump in contention with fasttracking drivers on the road would be a major problem for uber, they will avoid this at all costs.

there will have to be serious legislation passed for uber to do more than they do in regard to activating drivers. and even if uber was mandated to do everything you can dream of, there would still be uber drivers in accidents, doing dumb stuff, running people over, etc. worry about yourself I say
 
Thats definitely not what he said. Last I checked a taxi or limo driver can get a medallion or TCP set up for themselves if they have the money...who screens them?

I could go get a TCP set up and have a limo and not interview or screen myself to drive people correct?
It's definitely what he said...
"screening drivers better would be a good thing. but think about it practically- this is a major impediment for ubers business model"

Screening for better drivers is an impediment for the Uber business model, thus a flawed business model.

To get a TCP permit, you must be able to qualify for commercial insurance, which is a much higher standard than personal insurance. You also must enroll in a drug testing program and enroll in the DMV pull notice system. While the standards are not as high as I would like, they are much higher than you describe. Furthermore, to get an LAX permit, you must get approval from the City Of Los Angeles attorneys office. Not to mention this process is expensive, complicated and takes at least 6 months. The process would eliminate most people who would not take the job seriously.
 
It's definitely what he said...
"screening drivers better would be a good thing. but think about it practically- this is a major impediment for ubers business model"

Screening for better drivers is an impediment for the Uber business model, thus a flawed business model.

To get a TCP permit, you must be able to qualify for commercial insurance, which is a much higher standard than personal insurance. You also must enroll in a drug testing program and enroll in the DMV pull notice system. While the standards are not as high as I would like, they are much higher than you describe. Furthermore, to get an LAX permit, you must get approval from the City Of Los Angeles attorneys office. Not to mention this process is expensive, complicated and takes at least 6 months. The process would eliminate most people who would not take the job seriously.
Well idk. Ive worked for 2 limo companies and neither was stressful or complex to get into. And I almost made my own TCP set up...its nothing crazy...
 
you twisted my words there. regardless, i'm definitely not denying that uber is a poorly managed business. their model has set them up for very high driver turnover. uber is understood to be a pretty shit gig now, basically minimum wage. they lose thousands of drivers a day. therefore they need to gain even more drivers than they lose to further expand. any kind of roadblock or speedbump in contention with fasttracking drivers on the road would be a major problem for uber, they will avoid this at all costs.

there will have to be serious legislation passed for uber to do more than they do in regard to activating drivers. and even if uber was mandated to do everything you can dream of, there would still be uber drivers in accidents, doing dumb stuff, running people over, etc. worry about yourself I say
I understand your point and agree with you up until the last sentence. I even agree that serious legislation is needed and people will do dumb stuff. However, most of the dumb stuff can be reduced by proper vetting, proper training and supervision. I'm not saying eliminated, but dramatically reduced.
 
uber has a very high turn over of drivers. uber cannot keep their drivers due to poor driver treatment. this is cause for concern. uber does not know their drivers. they sign up everybody. a good business model would be to ensure that you keep your experienced trusted drivers. a driver that has done over 1,000 trips no complaints or bad reviews. no rudeness. turn in lost phones etc. these are the drivers that uber should desire. riders would feel safer knowing that drivers are tried and true. as long as uber keeps hiring in masses riders will never know what awaits them.
 
I'm a taxi driver. No face to face interview, no past employment check, no driving observation.
Thats not entirely true.
Boston Police Hackney Division has a 2 to 3 evening class. You filled out an application and they ran a CORI and a driving record on you.
If the CORI or driving record had red flags, you never would have made it into the class.
Now theres two evenings of observation followed by a proctored test, all run by Hackney.
FAR more stringent than any TNC company- many hours of observation and scrutiny of your data.

Dont get me started on Charlotte- makes Boston look like slackers.
 
uber has a very high turn over of drivers. uber cannot keep their drivers due to poor driver treatment. this is cause for concern. uber does not know their drivers. they sign up everybody. a good business model would be to ensure that you keep your experienced trusted drivers. a driver that has done over 1,000 trips no complaints or bad reviews. no rudeness. turn in lost phones etc. these are the drivers that uber should desire. riders would feel safer knowing that drivers are tried and true. as long as uber keeps hiring in masses riders will never know what awaits them.
The current "Power Driver something or another" is an indication Uber is beginning to favor certain drivers over others ... The ones who accept rides, as the quantity of riders and number of trips garner 'rewards.' This group of drivers are being vetted and tracked as 'valuable' to Uber ... the others, the surge-drivers, the offline-until-the-surge-hits drivers, the cancelling drivers in favor of the surge, the declining drivers in favor of the surge, are all on the fringe and Uber will take advantage of them until they quit ... The "Power Driver something" is replacing the surge ... The surge will always be there, but it will no longer have the clout it once had... it will be rarer and rarer as more riders are being put in cars for quantity ...

There is a limit to what a human being can take, so it is the kind of human being, the kind of drivers Uber is ferreting out ...

Beyond that, it's the wild wild west ... everyone ought to find a way to adapt and survive ...

Why am I even writing this??

Never mind. Go ahead and wait out for the surge and drive only during the surge. Please. It's all nonsense.
 
Go ahead and wait out for the surge and drive only during the surge. Please. It's all nonsense.
Making $150 in 3 hours is nonsense? Lmao you smoke some good stuff!!!

I make $50/hour part time to go to college ahahahaha what do you make? It burns doesn't it...for a wanna be internet troll to get trolled by a more superior troll thats the real deal...Gtfo...

 
That does not change the fact that anyone is capable of anything lol. Cops are some of the most heavily screened and they have issues sometimes correct?
Yeah, people think Uber can step up their background checks and do psychological pre hire interviews and that will still prevent people from using their free will in the future to pull a crazy stunt, smh.

I agree completely. I think even Bart will agree.
still doesn't prevent what I quoted from SurgeMachine
 
Yeah, people think Uber can step up their background checks and do psychological pre hire interviews and that will still prevent people from using their free will in the future to pull a crazy stunt, smh.

still doesn't prevent what I quoted from SurgeMachine
Nobody thinks proper vetting will prevent crazy stunts, but it most certainly would reduce them.
 
These kind of stories remind me of the RISK we all take driving. Insurance is only so good. It can't un-paralyze you if your in an accident and it certainly can't bring you back to life. In fact they would rather have you dead anyway and save the cash. But we are left to pick up the pieces of a potential tragic accident if any pieces are left. And all for what, a $3 ride? That is the unspoken cost of doing business, putting yourself in the most dangerous place for humans to be on Earth for 10 or more hours a day just to scratch out enough to pay the bills. Other than disease, traffic Accidents are the most common way to die in America.

Demand higher compensation by only driving SURGE! You set your own price in this market. make 2X the standard.
 
Meh. To each their own. I don't judge off profession or lack their of, but rather on a case by case scenario in anything in life to scout out the bad apples and avoid them like the plague, no matter where or what is going on because history has shown time and time again that anyone is capable of anything.
I used to volunteer for DD service before uber.
I used to kmow this older pimp who had narcolepsy...basically he can fall asleep any moment if he is not doing anything significant.
He was a driver for dd service. So sounds bad huh...well he was one of the best ever. Did it for over 7 years....never had an accident. While all the other come and go ones that claimed to be superb drivers and etc...quit or got let go due accidents and too many complains for their driving.
 
Nobody thinks proper vetting will prevent crazy stunts, but it most certainly would reduce them.
Actually in this case, I think having a lower insurance deductible would have helped.

The deductible for Uber is $1,000 and the deductible for Lyft is $2,000. That's even if the accident is not your fault. That's a tough pill to swallow if you're a ridesharing driver who works full time to pay your rent. And Uber/Lyft will simply deactivate you when they think your car is damaged anyway.

And even that is not the real issue. The real issue is the van driver (probably uninsured as well, even if they catch him). Uninsured motorists are dangerous, because they'll run anytime the police might pull them over. In France, uninsured cars are found when they're parked (unless it's a foreign car), so there is never any chase necessary since the driver is not even present. The car gets booted or towed and that's the end of it.

I realize that cars in California require insurance to be registered, but that doesn't prevent drivers from cancelling their insurance (or not paying their insurance as soon as they get sent their registration sticker). In France, it's a bar code on a decal on the inside of the windshield. The meter maids in France just need to scan that decal with their device, and that's it, they know if your insurance is up-to-date, or not. If it's not, you just lose your car, that's the end of the story.
 
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