[Paultl]

The move with UFF and not showing us the time/distances for each trip after is pure evil. If I am on a Didi trip and a major freeway gets shut down due to an accident. Paxhole is getting kicked out the instant I hear it on the radio. At least with Uber, the 1-2 times it has happened to me, they have revised the trip.

I haven't done a Didi trip since UFF, anyone know what happens when you take a toll that wasn't on the original trip? ie. Swan to city, I take Batman now because I can't be bothered to do the U turn and wait for another set of lights. Will Didi still pay the toll?

Havnt recieved any UFF from Didi in the last week. Only lasted a few days. I did send an email to them asking WTF is this, and if it continues I wont be turning on the Didi app in peak traffic. Got an auto response saying they will look into it and get back to me. Since then no UFF. Probably coincidence it stopped at the same time.

 

[KissMyHybrid]

Havnt recieved any UFF from Didi in the last week. Only lasted a few days. I did send an email to them asking WTF is this, and if it continues I wont be turning on the Didi app in peak traffic. Got an auto response saying they will look into it and get back to me. Since then no UFF. Probably coincidence it stopped at the same time.

What's UFF?

 

[RoboRider]

UFF - Up-front Fares (UFF)

I thought I had them this week but just checked the trips and they show as time and distance

 

[KissMyHybrid]

UFF - Up-front Fares (UFF)

I thought I had them this week but just checked the trips and they show as time and distance

I'm starting to think they may be a bit clueless as to what to do next, the constant change of strategy just confirms it.

When will they all learn there is really no substitute to paying drivers properly. You want loyalty you must be fair and loyal first. Forcing shit down drivers throats and treating them with disrespect will only backfire. There will be more drivers switching their Didi app off from this point on, as a direct result of this new policy.

Didi! get this into your heads... pax use you more because we drivers are recommending you more. This can all change overnight if you keep turning on us. No drivers, No Didi!...Watch out with your next moves, i am starting to get a little pissed off.

 

[Duderx]

I'm starting to think they may be a bit clueless as to what to do next, the constant change of strategy just confirms it.

When will they all learn there is really no substitute to paying drivers properly. You want loyalty you must be fair and loyal first. Forcing shit down drivers throats and treating them with disrespect will only backfire. There will be more drivers switching their Didi app off from this point on, as a direct result of this new policy.

Didi! get this into your heads... pax use you more because we drivers are recommending you more. This can all change overnight if you keep turning on us. No drivers, No Didi!...Watch out with your next moves, i am starting to get a little pissed off.

"You want loyalty you must be fair and loyal first." - a noble sentiment but it fails scrutiny in the 'rideshare' industry. As soon as the competitors started offering drivers a payment for Uber pax referrals, they showed their true colours. I have worked in service industries my whole life (never actually MADE or GROWN anything, but that's another story :cools: ) and a major no-no to me has always been the practice of knocking the opposition / competitors, including poaching their customers or workers using financial incentives (viz-a-viz life insurance brokers churning punters in the '80s and '90s) - it NEVER ENDS WELL.

Having said that, I'm not surprised at DiDi's tactics (and OLA's less sophisticated and clumsy attempts for that matter). Even the characterisation of what we do is erroneous. Rideshare is a misnomer today. Perhaps in 2010 it was a valid attempt at breaking down perceived inequalities and monopolies in the US (whilst improving the service provided to existing (poached?) taxi and hire car pax), but today, in 2019 Australia, the poachers are having their ill-gotten gains poached by new entrants to the market, and a few (probably quite-a-few) disaffected drivers are taking the 40 pieces of silver.

Now I am an atheist, however most religious texts seem to contain fables / guidance about how to go through life with a certain level of morality, and the Judas / 40 pieces of silver fable in the Christian bible is no exception. That story did not end well (Judas regretted his actions and short term thinking), and it would appear that at least one driver on here is coming to the same realisation.

As for thinking that "No drivers, no DiDi" worries DiDi or any other rideshare platform, when an industry has a 90+% turnover rate of drivers, they are not worrying about loyalty or fairness. So long as there are mugs like me who actually enjoy driving a few hours a day, and others who probably don't enjoy it much, but need the $$$, then personal transport will continue to survive (notice I didn't say THRIVE?).

 

[KissMyHybrid]

"You want loyalty you must be fair and loyal first." - a noble sentiment but it fails scrutiny in the 'rideshare' industry. As soon as the competitors started offering drivers a payment for Uber pax referrals, they showed their true colours. I have worked in service industries my whole life (never actually MADE or GROWN anything, but that's another story :cools: ) and a major no-no to me has78 always been the practice of knocking the opposition / competitors, including poaching their customers or workers using financial incentives (viz-a-viz life insurance brokers churning punters in the '80s and '90s) - it NEVER ENDS WELL.

Having said that, I'm not surprised at DiDi's tactics (and OLA's less sophisticated and clumsy attempts for that matter). Even the characterisation of what we do is erroneous. Rideshare is a misnomer today. Perhaps in 2010 it was a valid attempt at breaking down perceived inequalities and monopolies in the US (whilst improving the service provided to existing (poached?) taxi and hire car pax), but today, in 2019 Australia, the poachers are having their ill-gotten gains poached by new entrants to the market, and a few (probably quite-a-few) disaffected drivers are taking the 40 pieces of silver.

Now I am an atheist, however most religious texts seem to contain fables / guidance about how to go through life with a certain level of morality, and the Judas / 40 pieces of silver fable in the Christian bible is no exception. That story did not end well (Judas regretted his actions and short term thinking), and it would appear that at least one driver on here is coming to the same realisation.

As for thinking that "No drivers, no DiDi" worries DiDi or any other rideshare platform, when an industry has a 90+% turnover rate of drivers, they are not worrying about loyalty or fairness. So long as there are mugs like me who actually enjoy driving a few hours a day, and others who probably don't enjoy it much, but need the $$$, then personal transport will continue to survive (notice I didn't say THRIVE?).

I disagree with this sentiment. Fact is they are all actively chasing drivers with a long list of incentives. Most of the incentives are BS and designed to fool new drivers but some of the incentives are not too bad, fact is operators must keep offering incentives and this speaks volumes.

IMO, the offers will have to get better as we progress, they must if any of them want to grab better market share.

I have no doubt in my mind that Didi's take would not have been so fast and so great if Uber was treating thier drivers better, like real partners would. Drivers were simply itching to jump ship after being treated so poorly. Many of them did, hence "Didi". ?

Drivers can AND will jump to the next ship, leaving Didi to rot (just like they did taxifail) if Didi continue to go downhill and begin to treat them with disrespect.

Sorry no driver available in your area... ?

 

[Jack Malarkey]

Now I am an atheist, however most religious texts seem to contain fables / guidance about how to go through life with a certain level of morality, and the Judas / 40 pieces of silver fable in the Christian bible is no exception. That story did not end well (Judas regretted his actions and short term thinking), and it would appear that at least one driver on here is coming to the same realisation.

Judas received only 30 pieces of silver after application of the service fee and GST.

Matthew 26:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

 

[Brownsville]

What is religion and atheist?

 

[Noairportpickup]

What is religion and atheist?

It's important for some people.

 

[Duderx]

Judas received only 30 pieces of silver after application of the service fee and GST.

Matthew 26:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Told you I was an atheist!

Next you'll be telling me there weren't four wise men (John, Paul, Ringo and George), nor 18 disciples! .

At least I'm covenanted with Uber to give them 22% of my silver and not 27.5%.

 

[andyxc]

I have no doubt in mind Didis take would not have been so fast and great if Uber was treating thier drivers better, like real partners would. Drivers were itching to jump ship after being treated so poorly.

Wouldn't you agree that after Ola, Bolt and Didi showing their true colours, Uber wasn't that bad afterall. At least Uber cops the fraud, pays cleaning fees, shows trip details, simple requests such as paying for missed tolls are done swiftly.

When you have a job where thousands are willing to do for less and have the same qualifications as you. Don't expect much money or benefits,

 

[Jack Malarkey]

Told you I was an atheist!

Next you'll be telling me there weren't four wise men (John, Paul, Ringo and George), nor 18 disciples! .

At least I'm covenanted with Uber to give them 22% of my silver and not 27.5%.

I'm in the unusual position of having been on 27.5% but having had it drop to 22% from late last month.

This is because Uber made an error in the wording of an addendum for some Canberra drivers.

All Canberra drivers had been on 25% (later 27.5%) from when Uber began operations here on 30 October 2015 even though drivers in other cities were then on 20% (later 22%).

To its credit, Uber has honoured the error in favour of drivers: https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-addendum-to-uber-service-agreement-from-29-july-2019.340525/.

 

[Hugh G]

I'm in the unusual position of having been on 27.5% but having had it drop to 22% from late last month.

This is because Uber made an error in the wording of an addendum for some Canberra drivers.

All Canberra drivers had been on 25% (later 27.5%) from when Uber began operations here on 30 October 2015 even though drivers in other cities were then on 20% (later 22%).

To its credit, Uber has honoured the error in favour of drivers: https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-addendum-to-uber-service-agreement-from-29-july-2019.340525/.

Knowing Uber they would just alter the algorithm for those drivers now on 22% to receive less overall work, then give that work to the 27.5%ers !

Sorry, but I've been told that I've become jaded since I started Uber driving....

 

[Who is John Galt?]

Knowing Uber they would just alter the algorithm for those drivers now on 22% to receive less overall work, then give that work to the 27.5%ers !

I think Jack is saying that all Canberra drivers are now on 22% and there are now no 27.5%ers.

.

 

[KissMyHybrid]

When you have a job where thousands are willing to do for less and have the same qualifications as you. Don't expect much money or benefits,

I disagree, the facts on the ground indicate a completely diffrent story.

The list of driver choices and incentives continue to grow and so are the new driver referrals. Assuming it must be everyone's dream to become taxi driver and that there is an unlimited supply of drivers is wrong on many levels, it's not really the case. The driver numbers are limited while you have 5 operators with deep pockets wanting to grow...

 

[Jack Malarkey]

I think Jack is saying that all Canberra drivers are now on 22% and there are now no 27.5%ers.

.

Now that would be a miracle! No, there are 50 or so of us who were on 27.5% but are now on 22%.

 

[Golfer]

I think Jack is saying that all Canberra drivers are now on 22% and there are now no 27.5%ers.

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Uber at first, just fell in line , with the Politicians , and took more , after all Jack is in the ACT.

 

[RoboRider]

I just noticed my completion rate was 88% for the week and it shows the minimum requirement as 60%. I couldn't work out why I wasn't 100% so went into my trip history and confirmed that I hadn't cancelled any rides but noticed I had one where the rider had cancelled. Checking further in the app in the "Learn More about Completion Rate" link I discover that passenger cancellations affect your completion rate. So .. if you accept a trip that is far away (or even sometimes you can be too close) and the passenger cancels it is your fault

I reviewed my dashcam I can see that I had just dropped off at St Vincent's Hospital off Victoria Parade, accepted the Didi job as I started to drive away and had the passenger cancel 1 minute later while I was driving to them. They were in Richmond so less than 2km away - how is that my fault?

 

[BLUE eye]

I just noticed my completion rate was 88% for the week and it shows the minimum requirement as 60%. I couldn't work out why I wasn't 100% so went into my trip history and confirmed that I hadn't cancelled any rides but noticed I had one where the rider had cancelled. Checking further in the app in the "Learn More about Completion Rate" link I discover that passenger cancellations affect your completion rate. So .. if you accept a trip that is far away (or even sometimes you can be too close) and the passenger cancels it is your fault

I reviewed my dashcam I can see that I had just dropped off at St Vincent's Hospital off Victoria Parade, accepted the Didi job as I started to drive away and had the passenger cancel 1 minute later while I was driving to them. They were in Richmond so less than 2km away - how is that my fault?

Yes. Your faults.
I got 33 calls this week.
Completed 27 trips. 6 cancelled by riders.
82%.

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[zanboor]

I just noticed my completion rate was 88% for the week and it shows the minimum requirement as 60%. I couldn't work out why I wasn't 100% so went into my trip history and confirmed that I hadn't cancelled any rides but noticed I had one where the rider had cancelled. Checking further in the app in the "Learn More about Completion Rate" link I discover that passenger cancellations affect your completion rate. So .. if you accept a trip that is far away (or even sometimes you can be too close) and the passenger cancels it is your fault

I reviewed my dashcam I can see that I had just dropped off at St Vincent's Hospital off Victoria Parade, accepted the Didi job as I started to drive away and had the passenger cancel 1 minute later while I was driving to them. They were in Richmond so less than 2km away - how is that my fault?

You worry too much Sir :redface: