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Increase minimum wage for Rideshare drivers

2.4K views 48 replies 19 participants last post by  OnCinema  
#1 ·
If there is a law forcing $20 minimum wage for Fast Food workers, can we ask for a minimum wage of at least $30? Combined with Prop 22 this will work.
 
#2 · (Edited)
33 mph x .35 and 16 x1.20 is $30 an hour, but of course it goes up or down depending on street stop and go, freeway traffic or freeway that happens to not have traffic.
Boston gets $32.50 with no mileage, active time only no deadtime pay either.
At least fast food still pays even if they're sitting around not doing anything.
If every driver was paid for dead time, we could all just sit at home ignoring pings getting paid.
 
#3 ·
33 mph x .35 and 16 x1.20 is $30 an hour, but of course it goes up or down depending on street stop and go, freeway traffic or freeway that happens to not have traffic.
Boston gets $32.50 with no mileage, active time only no deadtime pay either.
At least fast food still pays even if they're sitting around not doing anything.
But if everyone was paid for dead time, we could all just sit at home ignoring pings getting paid.
What I meant was $30 x 1.25 plus .35 x miles
 
#5 ·
33 mph x .35 and 16 x1.20 is $30 an hour, but of course it goes up or down depending on street stop and go, freeway traffic or freeway that happens to not have traffic.
Boston gets $32.50 with no mileage, active time only no deadtime pay either.
At least fast food still pays even if they're sitting around not doing anything.
If every driver was paid for dead time, we could all just sit at home ignoring pings getting paid.
If there is a law forcing $20 minimum wage for Fast Food workers, can we ask for a minimum wage of at least $30? Combined with Prop 22 this will work.
Just go get a real job. You're not cut out to be responsible for yourself
 
#7 ·
Well you’re pointing out one of the reasons the pay for Uber is getting shittier everywhere (not just in Cali). Due to inflation and Uber providing upfront details, part time drivers are at an all time high. They can get requests filled without offering incentives or surging.

In Cali, many part time drivers are also fine with working for Prop 22 since they don’t have time to cherry-pick and will just accept anything to stay busy until it’s time to go home.
 
#13 ·
In order to increase driver's minimum wage, the CA legislature would need to amend Prop 22 which is the law now.

It would require a 7/8 super majority to pass. That will be difficult to achieve.
You would need Tom Cruise to wear the mask of a legislator and then abseil down inside a huge crankshaft to amend the document.
 
#35 ·
great advice
There's actually a solution to that. I've come up with 3 actually.

1. Have set hours and requires contractors to accept all fares period
A. This would require the same per mile rate whether you are empty or loaded.
(Double rate for out of town trips.)

2. Offer the following choices on every ping.
A. Accept
B. Forfit dead time pay from your last dropped ride until your next accepted ride
( It would allow the freedom to multiapp or be more descerning about your rides.)

3. Limit access to stabilize per hour earnings
A. The company could boot drivers offline when it slows to get numbers to a mathmatically acceptable range.
B. Prevent logins when the business is slow
C. Schedule times or people to be able to log on and get hours garunteed.
D. Allow more drivers to come on unscheduled if demand allows it.



Now the problem with these is you have to accept literally everything.
Go start your own complete with tactics and see how long you stay in business. 🤣🤣🤣you want the world but at the end of the day all you need is a license and acar to do this unskilled job. Supply and demand dictate what you get paid. Go into retail the wages are better and there's advancement opportunities. If you have any promise at all. Just trying to help you
 
#36 ·
great advice
Go start your own complete with tactics and see how long you stay in business. 🤣🤣🤣you want the world but at the end of the day all you need is a license and acar to do this unskilled job. Supply and demand dictate what you get paid. Go into retail the wages are better and there's advancement opportunities. If you have any promise at all. Just trying to help you
That's how I could make it work with driver getting paid for the time between pings, or employee status.



And total disclosure, if anyone actually was dumb enough to gave me start up capital to make a rideshare company I would just disappear with the money. I mean that's the only profitable way to spend money trying to compete against uber and lyft.

You can blow all of it in a race to the bottom blowing it on marketing and subsidizing rides or you can just embezzle it and be done with it.

Id disappear to the third world faster than you can say "so Stevie what's the first step"

If I tried to actually compete against uber and lyft I would actually pay drivers a far rate, which would require such deep subsidies that to get customers to actually use the service that I'm in the hole so far so deep so fast that I might as well pile up the money and light it on fire ... at which point I am engaging in business with no actual hope of an actual profit.

So at that point... if I am just screwing over the investors anyway why don't I just skp the first 10 steps and embezzle all the start up capital?
 
#37 · (Edited)
California has a rideshare minimum/maximum. P22.
There was a reasonable voice here in the forum who would point out that actual language of the proposed legislation P22
And poise the question why would why would Rideshare pay more than the law they wrote provided?
It's now the law in California.
In California a minimum fare will buy you one and a half eggs.
The minimum fare will buy you a loaf of day old bread.
The moral of this story is just because someone loves chocolate don't think the chocolate fogs his reasoning.
 
#39 ·
the only way to make it in a place like los angeles california or perhaps any place in california is that you have to either be poor or have a lot of money

many people are always coming to los angeles county because of the weather so that will never change

There's always going to be new drivers who don't know what they are doing, we need to be mindful and drive accordingly so that we can maintain the clean driving record, but at the same time damn wherever they came from, it has caused them to be a sucky driver in los angeles for many reasons

Let me tell you it's it so annoying with all the crap but simply you cannot honk at them, all you can do is look at them, if you get a chance to pass them on by and if they don't have tinted windows you can see who the usual suspects are, you know what i mean ?