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I despise anyone who works Uber as a hobby

24K views 217 replies 101 participants last post by  Rakos  
I can answer this, for myself. I work 40+ hours through the week...have a family, hobbies, but weekend nights I don't party or go out with friends much. I was finding myself sitting at home doing nothing after the wife went to bed early (she works early mornings), so there was 4-6 hours during the most lucrative Uber time where I'm able to get out and earn. If I had that free time through the week, I wouldn't waste my time, but on weekend nights the money is good enough that a few hours can net me a quick $100 or more. I don't have to do it, I can take a weekend off if I feel like it or it's nasty out or those rare weekends I wanna do something, but it doesn't interfere with my life much.

I have a buddy who gets up early and does the morning commute Uber, then does a delivery route for a beverage company that starts later in the morning. It's just a part time gig, but by getting up a few hours earlier he nets another $300-400 a month without much effort. Doesn't need it, but it's a boost.
That's exactly what I do...the early morning commute and a rare weekend. $100-200/wk gross typically. This past week was $400 but that's because there was a big Halloween party downtown on Saturday night.
 
Bull. Pure bull.

You're a completely useless, unemployable imbecile if Uber is all you can scrounge up. I mean that, from the bottom of my heart.

My company will hire anyone with a beating pulse and a clean record (same you need for Uber) and pay them $18 an hour to fish Cat6, with benefits, paid time off, and if you show up and do it you'll be at $20 an hour in a few months. We haven't had a single full time Uber guy ever show up...mostly it's Mexicans or guys who can't piss clean and get tossed.

Pathetic excuse making to say that Uber is all you can do full time. You're a complete working failure if that's true. Piss anyone off? Good, it should.
Swingset as usual I don't disagree with the content of your post but I wouldn't have delivered it in quite the way you did (occasional drunken rant notwithstanding).
 
$110k Tesla S is a little harder to have paid off than a $32k 325i. Yoou also probably had the opportunity to buy it used at probably around $22k while the Tesla S was almost certainly bought new.
I bought it used with 15k miles for $10k. Who wouldn't take that deal? Honestly it's really not that high end...some affluent areas west of Milwaukee (where I was working when I bought it) it' pretty low end.
 
I would put in a few hours a week driving by luxury car just to get away from the gf and kids. Driving can be therapeutic for some and it doesn't hurt to decompress. I'm guessing drivers like this are rare and I wouldn't worry so much that they are stealing rides lol
Ding ding ding! Thank you!

I have been accused in this thread (and others) of "not having a life". Did it occur to the accusers that I like to drive TO GET AWAY FROM my very busy life? And I can legitimize it because it makes a few bucks.

My job is very high pressure, my children are all very active and in sports/scouts, and my wife is very intelligent (which means we often butt heads). Driving for Uber is an escape. It's so low stress compared to everything else I have going on, at least in my market.

Some guys golf...I can't justify spending that much money, and not making any, so I Uber.

:)
 
I have a spreadsheet that I keep and update weekly. I keep the track of the following:
  • Miles Driven
  • Rider Miles
  • Dead Miles (calculated)
  • Miles tax deduction (calculated)
  • Uber Payout
  • Taxable $$ (calculated)
  • Minutes online
  • $$/hr online minus tips (calculated)
  • $$/mile (calulated)
  • Rides
  • Operating Cost (calculated based on my estimated operating cost/mile)
  • In App Tips
Those are tracked weekly and cumulatively for the year.

I also calculate the following for year to date:
  • Dead Miles %
  • Miles/Revenue $
  • Average $/Ride (no tips)
  • $Profit/mile
  • $$Profit
  • Rides/Hour Online
  • Profit/hr online
  • Avg Miles/Ride
Most of the numbers are not pretty. But I know what it is and am not losing money as long as I count my time as expendable. And it is since I would just be watching re-runs of SVU if I wasn't driving.
These ratios you detail are very similar to what I have in my spreadsheet. Metrics I call them. And if I wasn't driving I'd probably still be playing Minecraft in the morning before everyone else wakes up.

How do you keep track of all this while driving?
He says he updates it weekly which I assume means he does it at home. That said, you can get a good idea of where you stand as you go along. Like if I remember the odo mileage I started with when I started driving I can keep a running ratio in my head of approximate gross income per mile. If I'm towards $0.75 or above I'm doing well. If it's tending towards $0.50 or below, I'm not doing so well. Of course in terms of dollars per hour it's all absolute s***. But as long as I'm in the black I'm happy :)
 
Just to keep ratings up? Now that's sad.
TBH sometimes I'm not certain I'm operating at a loss until I can plug numbers into my spreadsheet at the end of the "shift". And even if I have a sense I'm cutting it close, there's always the temptation to stick it out and get "one last awesome trip" lol.

I suspect most of you never do any kind of periodic profitability analysis and therefore don't even realize when you have a losing day. It only sinks in when there is a $3000 repair.
 
The hobbyists are the only ones using Uber correctly.

It's the desperate, math-stupid full timers who are screwing everything up.

You're the ones over-saturating, you're the ones allowing Uber/Lyft to treat drivers poorly because you'll drive regardless (because you need it). You're the ones enabling bad pax and their behavior, because you need the gig and you'll put up with it. You're the reason there's pool, and no bonuses, and low pay. You're the ones making it unprofitable, you're the ones signaling to the rideshare companies that the drivers are too stupid to treat ethically. You're the ones sitting in queues earning nothing because you're desperate.

Yes. You.

If you didn't need Uber, you'd do it for fun or extra cash and the INSTANT it became a bad deal or unprofitable, you'd bail and Uber would be forced to do better because they couldn't put enough people in a market to operate efficiently. They even tell you it's a side gig, but you foolishly threw all in instead of getting a real job...now you're trapped by a bad financial decision, and double down on it. Some of you are so stupid you lease cars through Uber, or buy a new one on a hefty note just to do this job.

You don't need a union or 180 days if you can walk away freely and without issue. But, you can't, because you're desperate.

You're the problem.

Sorry, truth hurts.
This is kind of what I was trying to say in that other thread we won't mention...
 
Then you are donating the equity from your car back to Uber for nothing or almost nothing.
Not smart.
I'm not planning on selling it unless repairs become costly. By the way, I have never had any major repairs...and it's got 76k miles now. It's only worth less than $10k now mostly due to its age. I have freely admitted I used it as an ATM a bit, but I only put a few thousand Uber miles on it, part time, until I could afford to buy another car. I have put WAAAAAY more miles on it commuting to and from Milwaukee and Madison.

See my avatar? I drive a used Hyundai and the Bimmer stays in the driveway/garage most of the time.

You mean to tell me you didn't read every single one of my posts before commenting? ;)
 
That's what I'm saying... He BELIEVES the uber propaganda. They are beautiful commercials. Make $30-50 per hour driving beautiful, smiling, fun people in your beautiful expensive, paid for BMW. LOL.
I haven't seen any commercials because I don't watch TV really. That said, I make $5-10 per hour driving often beautiful, sometimes smiling, sometimes fun people in my beautiful inexpensive paid for BMW (on the day every week or two that I take it out so it doesn't atrophy). Not bad!
 
I'm one of these people. My wife and I make good money. I do rideshare on the side "for the heck of it" and "just because".

I woke up this morning at 5 am because I had a good sleep and instead of making noise around the house for a few hours I went out and just drove people around. I made a few bucks.

I have as much of a right to do this for whatever reason as you do. And this will never change. If you can't make good money doing uber (nobody can), you'll have to find a profession that pays better. There are many.

Here's the thing: when your profession is easy to learn, easy to access (many people have cars), relaxing, flexible, competition is going to force the pay down. Uber currently pays terribly and that won't change. The market has essentially found how low people are willing to go and still do it.

Zero taxable income != zero income. Hint: If I make $1000 and my mileage deduction was $1000 my "income" was zero. But what if it only cost me $400 in actual, real expenses, to make that $1000? There you go.

That may often but true, but isn't always. My regular income has me putting money into retirement/savings. I like the extra uber money because, at the end of the day, I'm a cheap bastard. I can buy a tv or a piece of sports equipment with even less guilt than before.

I drove early this morning and at 9:00 am I got home to be home for the day. Immediately I got tasked with things by my wife to do. I'm still proud of myself for not saying "if you keep giving me tasks I'm going back out ubering".
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