got one fought it and it was dismissed
here is the link
https://uberpeople.net/threads/park...rking-ticket-for-cal-tran-dropoff-fought-it-got-a-decision.153173/#post-2286221

 

I filed appeal and they said no, pay up.
They're photo is a blur of something wet! It wasn't raining!
What is my recourse? should i go to mayor?

 

I received a ticket for a 3 second pickup when the light was red. The pax literally ran and jumped in. About 3 seconds. The guy took a photo as well.

Fighting SFMTA is nearly impossible and a huge hassle. You will spend more time fighting it than it will be worth at $110.

I fought a speeding ticket (Stockton Tunnel) and won. I had to make three visits to 850 Bryant though.

You can usually win by saying 'inadmissable by lack of authentication'. Say this after asking the cop what color shirt you were wearing that day. If they cant answer the case gets dismissed. --it helps to push the court date as far back as you can, up to 6 months after the incident. He will not remember. btw, this is how the lawyers who advertise on those billboards around town get people out of tickets. I learned this from an Uber pax who was lawyer! We are all in this together!

 

so basically you made a legal u turn, you are allowed to as long its not a double yellow, or no car is coming from 200 feet or sign posted....so thats not what the ticket is for prolly just the jerk felt you stopped too long and obstructed traffic, this is nice to know that every pickup dropoff in the city is a ticket, the city is pain but with the 2.0 boost its hard to resist

https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/TrafficCode.pdf

here is the sfmta code......lol its garbage

 

It's not the police. Re - read my post

It's not a uturn if you are parked

Sfmta are not police and not allowed to give moving violation. They are only allowed to give tickets. This is not a real ticket. There's is no traffic court.
Don't you people read? Jeez!!!
You are the ones taking these illegitimate tickets from Sfmta emboldening them

Its a u-turn if you are parked. I went through this last year. You are not allowed to make any kind of u-turn in a business area. However, if you are on an all residential street (one laundry place will make it a business street...) you CAN make a u-turn. I tried to fight this one and went to the SF Law Library, etc. ....there is no way around it. If you make any sort of u-turn and there is a business on the street, you are getting an expensive ticket.

However, in this case he was not ticketed for a u-turn and, as you mentioned, this SFMTA jerk off should not be enforcing laws SFPD should be enforcing. So instead he gives a ticket for obstructing traffic which does not sound like thats what he was doing. This SFMTA guy knows if it does go all the way to Superior court the court is going to label it an illegal u-turn( assuming there was a business on the street --closed or not does not matter), and a potentially even more expensive ticket could be given along with a point on his license!

Its hard to beat these SFMTA a-holes because they are a private company. I would have spit in his face. Its much easier to beat actual SFPD because they have to abide by actual laws. SFMTA can do whatever it wants. They have their own court room at their building. To take it to Superior court is a major pain in the ass and like I said above the result could be worse. SFMAT is the most corrupt organization in SF. Its pretty much mafia. Having grown up here, I have been dealing with them for 24 yrs. Unfortunately there is little you can do about it. You can go to their little court office on Van Ness but you will be wasting your time. No one ever wins. It's not a real judge. SFMTA pays A LOT of money to SF which is why SF has always and will always turn its head to the corruption.

Sorry man. I know the feeling. Consider like a Mexican cop. You have to pay them off.

 

It's not the police. Re - read my post

It's not a uturn if you are parked

Sfmta are not police and not allowed to give moving violation. They are only allowed to give tickets. This is not a real ticket. There's is no traffic court.
Don't you people read? Jeez!!!
You are the ones taking these illegitimate tickets from Sfmta emboldening them

the ticket says you were blocking traffic before you attempted to make the u turn so its not for the u turn, Basically if you werent blocking traffic at any time you should fight the ticket

 

Unfortunately you cant easily fight these SFMTA tickets. You will wait for hours at the SFMTA office on Van Ness only to be told the ticket is legitimate. You then essentially have to sue SFMTA and take them to Superior court which is a major pain in the ass and will cost you way more than $110 of time and legal fees if you go that route. SFMTA is not a government organization. They are private. Purposefully private so the city and SFMTA can make buttloads of money essentially robbing people. Hard to believe but its true. Yes we have Mexican like corruption in SF (USA) and its not going away.

 

It sucks but you shouldn't have honked at him,as much as these guys suck they have a crappy job which means they get in a bad mood very easily.

They can be jerks at the cal train , one time in the morning the metermaid was parked right where we drop off and pick up ( taking a spot) so I double parked , I couldn't believe it when I saw the him lean over to write down my license plate !!!

I immediately called their number and asked for a supervisor, after like 15 minutes of being transferred and calling different numbers I got a hold of their boss, explained the situation and she noted my plates then said someone will have that metermaid moved.

This metermaid was parked at the place where we are allowed to park issuing tickets to anyone double parking instead of the bus stop.

 

It sucks but you shouldn't have honked at him,as much as these guys suck they have a crappy job which means they get in a bad mood very easily.

They can be jerks at the cal train , one time in the morning the metermaid was parked right where we drop off and pick up ( taking a spot) so I double parked , I couldn't believe it when I saw the him lean over to write down my license plate !!!

I immediately called their number and asked for a supervisor, after like 15 minutes of being transferred and calling different numbers I got a hold of their boss, explained the situation and she noted my plates then said someone will have that metermaid moved.

This metermaid was parked at the place where we are allowed to park issuing tickets to anyone double parking instead of the bus stop.

Precisely what I was thinking, would he have issued the ticket if you didn't honk at him?

I see them at the Caltrain too, they're kind of funny. They see me taking a photo of the train and try to photobomb it -_______-

 

there actually is a loading zone on townsend for the caltrain if pax refuse to go there cancel

 

I'm experienced driver to know you can wait for passengers behind the taxis and for max 5 minutes. I wasnt doing anything wrong there.
After picking up pax I made U turn (from parking spot), no cars were coming from either direction. Perfectly safe except for stupid Sfmta guy standing in road to take Uber/lyft car photos. Total money grab trap.
I didn't do anything illegal or dangerous. I was not blocking any lanes. I had to honk at him to move and knew he'd send me a ticket.
Now my main concern is sfmta is not police and thus cannot give moving violation tickets. A normal moving violation ticket is heard in traffic court where a driver can choose to do volunteer work instead of paying. I know I'll need to read previous posts in here of drivers who fought and won an sfmta ticket. But just wanted to put out there my thoughts on this situation if anyone has feedback thank you.
And to warn you of those effers.
When I was new over 24,000 passengers ago I got one of sfmta's $328 tickets for pulling up to 700 4th Street. So I know very well how to not get tickets down there. this BS that they gave me the other day is a new low slimy tactic of theirs just to get money. Aholes.
They must be stopped. They were the ones blocking lanes and creating traffic and View attachment 121847 safety hazards.
Oh and their saying "photo on file", that doesn't prove anything. Although I'm wondering if it's a video? But again they can't give moving violation tickets. and normally a ticket like this would refer you to a website where you can view the video

You might want to block your license info.. Just a reminder, in case you didn't realize

 

I got a street sweeping parking ticket while waiting for pax. Doing all the appeals, at least make them work for my money.

 

Need a dash cam and GPS tracker to monitor your location and movements at all times. To fight it you will have to take your evidence into a hearing. I only have my google maps timeline. It does show I was at ticketed location for 5 minutes. I vaguely remember I was waiting on a pax, i do have a cancellation fee for the time and date of ticket. The white 3 wheeler rolled in behind me and I left. Still got a ticket in the mail.

 

If you feel you are right, you should fight for it.SFMTA is moron that gave me a $110 citation for stop at whitezone to drop off pax
I protested and won, but they did not admit they are wrong in the letter sent to me for the citation dismiss.

 

I'm taking a picture and they jump in my line of vision with some funny face and peace sign

So, you're the new moderator? Why is that? First to take it?

 

I'm not the only one, and, there is no point in answering if you've already answered in the only answer you'll be willing to accept, in the form of a question.

It's like almost direct but not quite, almost passive aggressive but not really.

 

I'm experienced driver to know you can wait for passengers behind the taxis on Townsend and for max 5 minutes.
After picking up pax in less than 5 min I turned to go south on Townsend. (Yes illegal uturn, but no cops, no cars, my choice, my risk). After turn stupid Sfmta guy stands into road to take photos of Uber/lyft cars pulling into 301 townsend.
I had to honk at him to move out of road, he plays power trip of taking my license photo and I get their bs $110 ticket for blocking traffic and "photo on file". That photo won't show me blocking traffic. Photo taken of me fully in road on Townsend.
He was the one blocking lanes and creating traffic and safety hazards. What's my chance of winning?

You should definitely try. NO one knows the odds here, but unless there's cars backed up behind you, or yr hazard lights visibly on, it's hard to see from a picture that you're blocking traffic. Judging by your story, I'd say you have a good chance. DTs was dismissed for reasons other than what he stated, so they must be doing some due diligence and not jst trying to collect money like the cynics here claim. I got a ticket while parked, for having my plates covered, but it was a dealer plate cover and I was waiting on the registration to come before uncovering the plate and had temp reg in the windshiled. They dismissed it.

 

You should definitely try. NO one knows the odds here, but unless there's cars backed up behind you, or yr hazard lights visibly on, it's hard to see from a picture that you're blocking traffic. Judging by your story, I'd say you have a good chance. DTs was dismissed for reasons other than what he stated, so they must be doing some due diligence and not jst trying to collect money like the cynics here claim. I got a ticket while parked, for having my plates covered, but it was a dealer plate cover and I was waiting on the registration to come before uncovering the plate and had temp reg in the windshiled. They dismissed it.

I wonder what they would have done had they not been able to identify your vehicle through the temp registration. (Assuming your VIN was not visible).

 

Isn't there an appeal process? I don't think people go from MTA straight to the top of the chain. I think this is the wrong web site to find out what to do.
It's seriously for "blocking traffic"? And you lost? I don't understand if you were in the loading zone, how you can be blocking traffic. & How could you be blocking traffic if there was a human in front of you who you had to honk at before making a uturn? And if one takes a picture of any moving car, it will be standing still in the picture, and appear to be blocking traffic. Or were you stopped in the road waiting to make a uturn? It is illegal to stop in the road. The forum people don't like that, but it's true.

I was fully in road trying to drive and he was in road with his back to me. No one was behind me. I had to honk for everyone's safety and i honked short and light. He ignored so i honked again

 

Have you seen the photo? Years ago in Riverside, CA I got a red light ticket. I went to a county building where one goes for this, and I was able to see the camera footage (it's actually video, it is constantly running, not just taking a photo when you violate, os I saw my car approaching the intersection then making a rigtht turn without stopping). Actually, just remembvered I also was able to see a pciture last year when I got a ticket for a covered license plate while I was parked. The person took a photo of my plate while lifting the cover. I was able to see that picture online. You should look at the picture. There is probably an appeal process. It sounds like they have a photo of a car in the street. I don't see how anyone can look at that and say "that person is blocking traffic" unless there was a line of cars behind you but no cars in hte next lane or something, but even then those cars could just be driving behind you. Plenty of examples of people having their tickets dismissed, including mine with the covered license plate, so I don't believe it's all about money and it's all unfair. You maybe got unlucky with whoever reviewed yr case and that's what appeals are for. If you weren't blocking traffic you should appeal. But you have to find out how to appeal not by asking here how to do it.

Pay the fine!!! It sucks. I got a ticket for double parking. I was guilty and I imagine you were too.

Why do you imagine that?

 

Without proof I don't see why you have to pay. Isn't that the whole point of a photo enforcement to make sure the parking guy isn't full of crap

 

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sfmta takes photos now.

 

Instead giving tickets around cal train station police officer should be there to Controll traffic I got ticket there too dropping off handicap person right in front of station on 4th st side which are bus red zone it was so traffic I county move farther I tryed to fight but they denied me :-(( we all should tell some news company or city of sf during rush hour w construction goinv in there should have police not ticketing peoooe waiting to give tickets it's so nit fair for any drivers

 

It's a set up is what it is... There are always solutions and alternatives. But why implement those when you can just give people tickets and blame people because the city is too lazy to fix it themselves and take the blame for a poorly set up system.

 

Instead giving tickets around cal train station police officer should be there to Controll traffic I got ticket there too dropping off handicap person right in front of station on 4th st side which are bus red zone it was so traffic I county move farther I tryed to fight but they denied me :-(( we all should tell some news company or city of sf during rush hour w construction goinv in there should have police not ticketing peoooe waiting to give tickets it's so nit fair for any drivers

Maybe you could've brought the handicap person to court with you

 

Well i just won this ticket. It was easy and i highly recommend all of you to do this. So 1st step of appeal at sfmta you always lose. Then you request next step at Superior Court 850 Bryant. Only $25 filling fee. Eat sign up process Everyone in that court won their fighting sfmta ticket cases. Nice!!! It's not like regular court. The other side doesn't appear.
I had no proof. No one there had proof. Just their word and story. Judge nice!!!

 

I wouldn't call that a win. You had to wait at sfmta for them to tell you that you lose. Then you have to wait at the court house to schedule. Them go back to the court house and wait for a hearing. Also, pay the $25. I'd rather drive Uber for 3 hours and make the same.

 

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I wouldn't call that a win. You had to wait at sfmta for them to tell you that you lose. Then you have to wait at the court house to schedule. Them go back to the court house and wait for a hearing. Also, pay the $25. I'd rather drive Uber for 3 hours and make the same.

Paid $7 pkg.
And it's necessary to fight back to the sfmta aholes.
Also just sold my car because you don't make ANY $ with Uber. It's just payday cash advance, instant money but fees eat it up. Never get ahead. Uber and Lyft drivers are DUMB.
I'm out and SO HAPPY.
Did 75,000 miles (3 x around Earth) for Uber in 1.5 years. Ruined my body. Made no $.
You're all fools

 

I wouldn't call that a win. You had to wait at sfmta for them to tell you that you lose. Then you have to wait at the court house to schedule. Them go back to the court house and wait for a hearing. Also, pay the $25. I'd rather drive Uber for 3 hours and make the same.

You'd rather drive? Really?

It's your moral obligation to cost them time and money. They will stop eventually.

 

Uh, I know my psychology. I took it in college and am now an expert.

That's not reverse psychology.

I sometimes play dumb, because I am dumb, and then I just act like I was pretending to be dumb. It's gotten me this far in life.

 

I took a Physics for Teachers class once. I never went though because I was already a physicist. I think I got an A for Apple.