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If you think CA Democrats are bad for IC's and workers in general I submit this "fun" little factoid:

"1. A boost for Uber and McDonald's
It's the most controversial question in the labor world these days: When is a worker an employee, and when is he or she an independent contractor? That question has been especially controversial for "gig economy" companies like Uber and Postmates. But increasingly, regular businesses are also opting to classify their workers as independent contractors, which can cut their labor costs sharply by not obliging them to offer benefits like health insurance or pay employer payroll taxes. According to one recent study, the percentage of workers employed as contractors grew almost 30 percent from 2005 to 2015.

In 2015, the Obama administration gave workers a win on this one: It issued a guidance document explaining how the Department of Labor would interpret the law, outlining the economic tests it employed in determining whether an employer was misclassifying its workers. The agency had been using that policy in enforcing the law, but putting it in writing sent a clear message to employers across the country that the Obama administration was serious about cracking down on worker misclassification.

On Wednesday, the Trump administration withdrew the guidance document. This was a win for business owners in any number of sectors - not just Uber, but industries such as farming and construction, which increasingly use independent contractors. The withdrawal of the document doesn't change the underlying law, the Fair Labor Standards Act, or the DOL's current interpretation of it but sends a strong signal to employers that Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta plans to interpret it differently than his predecessor. "The big story is not that, for whatever reason, they pulled down guidance," said David Weil, who issued the document under Obama. "The real question is what else comes with this."

Acosta also withdrew another Obama-era guidance document on how the department will determine whether a parent company, like McDonald's or Subway, is jointly responsible for its franchises' labor violations. As with worker misclassification, the Obama-era DOL interpreted the joint employment standard favorably for workers; its withdrawal is a victory for businesses."

 

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If you think CA Democrats are bad for IC's and workers in general I submit this "fun" little factoid:

"1. A boost for Uber and McDonald's
It's the most controversial question in the labor world these days: When is a worker an employee, and when is he or she an independent contractor? That question has been especially controversial for "gig economy" companies like Uber and Postmates. But increasingly, regular businesses are also opting to classify their workers as independent contractors, which can cut their labor costs sharply by not obliging them to offer benefits like health insurance or pay employer payroll taxes. According to one recent study, the percentage of workers employed as contractors grew almost 30 percent from 2005 to 2015.

In 2015, the Obama administration gave workers a win on this one: It issued a guidance document explaining how the Department of Labor would interpret the law, outlining the economic tests it employed in determining whether an employer was misclassifying its workers. The agency had been using that policy in enforcing the law, but putting it in writing sent a clear message to employers across the country that the Obama administration was serious about cracking down on worker misclassification.

On Wednesday, the Trump administration withdrew the guidance document. This was a win for business owners in any number of sectors - not just Uber, but industries such as farming and construction, which increasingly use independent contractors. The withdrawal of the document doesn't change the underlying law, the Fair Labor Standards Act, or the DOL's current interpretation of it but sends a strong signal to employers that Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta plans to interpret it differently than his predecessor. "The big story is not that, for whatever reason, they pulled down guidance," said David Weil, who issued the document under Obama. "The real question is what else comes with this."

Acosta also withdrew another Obama-era guidance document on how the department will determine whether a parent company, like McDonald's or Subway, is jointly responsible for its franchises' labor violations. As with worker misclassification, the Obama-era DOL interpreted the joint employment standard favorably for workers; its withdrawal is a victory for businesses."

Darn, that's a lot to unpack!!
The Power of the President is without a doubt enormous, not limitless, but it has so much power. The only thing I can contribute to this thread is......VOTE 2020
 

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If you think CA Democrats are bad for IC's and workers in general I submit this "fun" little factoid:

"1. A boost for Uber and McDonald's
It's the most controversial question in the labor world these days: When is a worker an employee, and when is he or she an independent contractor? That question has been especially controversial for "gig economy" companies like Uber and Postmates. But increasingly, regular businesses are also opting to classify their workers as independent contractors, which can cut their labor costs sharply by not obliging them to offer benefits like health insurance or pay employer payroll taxes. According to one recent study, the percentage of workers employed as contractors grew almost 30 percent from 2005 to 2015.

In 2015, the Obama administration gave workers a win on this one: It issued a guidance document explaining how the Department of Labor would interpret the law, outlining the economic tests it employed in determining whether an employer was misclassifying its workers. The agency had been using that policy in enforcing the law, but putting it in writing sent a clear message to employers across the country that the Obama administration was serious about cracking down on worker misclassification.

On Wednesday, the Trump administration withdrew the guidance document. This was a win for business owners in any number of sectors - not just Uber, but industries such as farming and construction, which increasingly use independent contractors. The withdrawal of the document doesn't change the underlying law, the Fair Labor Standards Act, or the DOL's current interpretation of it but sends a strong signal to employers that Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta plans to interpret it differently than his predecessor. "The big story is not that, for whatever reason, they pulled down guidance," said David Weil, who issued the document under Obama. "The real question is what else comes with this."

Acosta also withdrew another Obama-era guidance document on how the department will determine whether a parent company, like McDonald's or Subway, is jointly responsible for its franchises' labor violations. As with worker misclassification, the Obama-era DOL interpreted the joint employment standard favorably for workers; its withdrawal is a victory for businesses."

So we won't be hearing you on here bragging about how you got a stimulus check & how you deserve it & blah, blah, blah, right?

Just so we're all clear(& it's on record here), that you're refusing any sort of assistance from the government? You dont need or want anything from them, right?

If your answer is anything other than " Nope, don't need or want anything from them & I'll WILLINGLY offer to send it back", then you're a hypocrite.

That's what's so funny about all the Trump bashers: They talk mounds of shit about the man, yet are the first ones with their hands out saying"where's mine?" Then it's right back to "Orange man bad" in front of everyone.

So, You're proud to state here for EVERYONE to see & read that you're against any kind of government help & you'll be refusing any money they send your way, right?
 

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So we won't be hearing you on here bragging about how you got a stimulus check & how you deserve it & blah, blah, blah, right?

Just so we're all clear(& it's on record here), that you're refusing any sort of assistance from the government? You dont need or want anything from them, right?

If your answer is anything other than " Nope, don't need or want anything from them & I'll WILLINGLY offer to send it back", then you're a hypocrite.

That's what's so funny about all the Trump bashers: They talk mounds of shit about the man, yet are the first ones with their hands out saying"where's mine?" Then it's right back to "Orange man bad" in front of everyone.

So, You're proud to state here for EVERYONE to see & read that you're against any kind of government help & you'll be refusing any money they send your way, right?
Oh boy, i feel sorry for you. You should thank Nancy Pelosi for the Uber friendly relief package. All Trump did was call it a hoax and delay delay lie delay lie lie and more lie. He has blood in his hands and everything will come out in due time just like the 9/11 commission .

HE IS F"N TALKING ABOUT TV RATINGS OF HIS DAILY BRIEFINGS FOR F SAKE. GET A GRIP
 

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Darn, that's a lot to unpack!!
The Power of the President is without a doubt enormous, not limitless, but it has so much power. The only thing I can contribute to this thread is......VOTE 2020
That's not even the whole article. Not even close.

So we won't be hearing you on here bragging about how you got a stimulus check & how you deserve it & blah, blah, blah, right?

Just so we're all clear(& it's on record here), that you're refusing any sort of assistance from the government? You dont need or want anything from them, right?

If your answer is anything other than " Nope, don't need or want anything from them & I'll WILLINGLY offer to send it back", then you're a hypocrite.

That's what's so funny about all the Trump bashers: They talk mounds of shit about the man, yet are the first ones with their hands out saying"where's mine?" Then it's right back to "Orange man bad" in front of everyone.

So, You're proud to state here for EVERYONE to see & read that you're against any kind of government help & you'll be refusing any money they send your way, right?
"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
 

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To make sure you know it's a hand down and you'll have to show your eternal gratitude.

Basically the cheapest purchase of a person in the last 300 years.
Actually I was talking about the trolling he's doing by putting his signature on the check...
I'm just might frame it and send it to Pelosi for her 80th birthday (3/26/2020).

And that comment might be a little off-putting to some southern folk.............
 

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Exactly!

LOTS OF HYPOCRISY here & elsewhere about "Orange man bad", UNTIL he gives them FREE $$$, then he's "suddenly" not such a "bad Orange man", lol.

Oh boy, i feel sorry for you. You should thank Nancy Pelosi for the Uber friendly relief package. All Trump did was call it a hoax and delay delay lie delay lie lie and more lie. He has blood in his hands and everything will come out in due time just like the 9/11 commission .

HE IS F"N TALKING ABOUT TV RATINGS OF HIS DAILY BRIEFINGS FOR F SAKE. GET A GRIP
I should? No. You mean the same woman who tried bailing out the USPS, student loans & gave themselves 25% raises, all in the same bill? What about that infrastructure $$$ they supposedly hid in the bill(that we both know, will not be spent on infrastructure at all)?

Or the money to help the airlines? Hmmm, Looks like someone didn't read the whole thing & chose selective reading? Don't blame the POTUS for ANYTHING wrong with this bill. Fakelosi & her merry band of useless idiots have spent 40 years in congress & have accomplished NOTHING(& if they have, please post CREDIBLE, unbiased links providing that info that we can all see & read & verify it as credible & factual, unbiased info. Not something your goldfish told you either. You can PM it to me if you'd prefer).

Love it when hypocrites get called out on their bullshit, then suddenly start backtracking & deflecting. " Erm...um...erm...Orange man bad".

Too funny.

That's not even the whole article. Not even close.


"What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
So you're now backtracking/deflecting when called out on your bullshit? Lol! Too ****in funny.

"Orange man bad, Orange man bad"(finds out s/he could get $1200 free)then suddenly, it's "Orange man not so bad. I'm going to cash my stimulus check given to me by a guy I supposedly hate". (After cashes check, goes back to:" Orange man bad" & reeks of hypocrisy.

Like I said, I've saved this thread for a later date. Can't wait til you slip up and brag/boast about how you spent your stimulus check, sent to you by a guy you (& others) supposedly shout from rooftops here, that you supposedly "hate". Then I'll pop up and say " How ironic! Your hypocrisy is hilarious & you're a phony", to which then you'll have a massive meltdown trying to say how you're not a hypocrite & "Orange man bad". Then I'll post your response here.

Love these kinds of threads, especially when folks get exposed.
 

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Exactly!

LOTS OF HYPOCRISY here & elsewhere about "Orange man bad", UNTIL he gives them FREE $$$, then he's "suddenly" not such a "bad Orange man", lol.


I should? No. You mean the same woman who tried bailing out the USPS, student loans & gave themselves 25% raises?

Love it when hypocrites get called out on their bullshit, then suddenly start backtracking & deflecting.

Too funny.


So you're now backtracking/deflecting when called out on your bullshit? Lol! Too @@@@in funny.

"Orange man bad, Orange man bad"(finds out s/he could get $1200 free)then suddenly, it's "Orange man not so bad. I'm going to cash my stimulus check given to me by a guy I supposedly hate". (After cashes check, goes back to:" Orange man bad" & reeks of hypocrisy.

Like I said, I've saved this thread for a later date. Can't wait til you slip up and brag/boast about how you spent your stimulus check, sent to you by a guy you (& others) supposedly shout from rooftops here, that you supposedly "hate". Then I'll pop up and say " How ironic! Your hypocrisy is hilarious & you're a phony", to which then you'll have a massive meltdown trying to say how you're not a hypocrite & "Orange man bad". Then I'll post your response here.

Love these kinds of threads, especially when folks get exposed.
Trickle down economics beggar tool.
 

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Exactly!

LOTS OF HYPOCRISY here & elsewhere about "Orange man bad", UNTIL he gives them FREE $$$, then he's "suddenly" not such a "bad Orange man", lol.


I should? No. You mean the same woman who tried bailing out the USPS, student loans & gave themselves 25% raises, all in the same bill? What about that infrastructure $$$ they supposedly hid in the bill(that we both know, will not be spent on infrastructure at all)?

Or the money to help the airlines? Hmmm, Looks like someone didn't read the whole thing & chose selective reading? Don't blame the POTUS for ANYTHING wrong with this bill. Fakelosi & her merry band of useless idiots have spent 40 years in congress & have accomplished NOTHING(& if they have, please post CREDIBLE, unbiased links providing that info that we can all see & read & verify it as credible & factual, unbiased info. Not something your goldfish told you either. You can PM it to me if you'd prefer.

Love it when hypocrites get called out on their bullshit, then suddenly start backtracking & deflecting. " Erm...um...erm...Orange man bad".

Too funny.


So you're now backtracking/deflecting when called out on your bullshit? Lol! Too @@@@in funny.

"Orange man bad, Orange man bad"(finds out s/he could get $1200 free)then suddenly, it's "Orange man not so bad. I'm going to cash my stimulus check given to me by a guy I supposedly hate". (After cashes check, goes back to:" Orange man bad" & reeks of hypocrisy.

Like I said, I've saved this thread for a later date. Can't wait til you slip up and brag/boast about how you spent your stimulus check, sent to you by a guy you (& others) supposedly shout from rooftops here, that you supposedly "hate". Then I'll pop up and say " How ironic! Your hypocrisy is hilarious & you're a phony", to which then you'll have a massive meltdown trying to say how you're not a hypocrite & "Orange man bad". Then I'll post your response here.

Love these kinds of threads, especially when folks get exposed.
Interesting how you guys all talk about how the government isn't supposed to do anything for you.

Then this.

Interesting, also, that you'd assume a Democrat wouldn't take a similar course of action under such circumstances when the record proves anything but.

Best of all? You assume I'm registered to the DNC.

I haven't been registered to either major party in thirty years.

I have all kinds of reasons to be angry with the DNC. What's Wild is that the GOP is actually worse. And you've really gotta try to be worse.

You're a tool.

Just like @Marcus Foley and Dingus.
 

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Interesting how you guys all talk about how the government isn't supposed to do anything for you.

Then this.

Interesting, also, that you'd assume a Democrat wouldn't take a similar course of action under such circumstances when the record proves anything but.

Best of all? You assume I'm registered to the DNC.

I haven't been registered to either major party in thirty years.

I have all kinds of reasons to be angry with the DNC. What's Wild is that the GOP is actually worse. And you've really gotta try to be worse.

You're a tool.

Just like @Marcus Foley and Dingus.
Please point out where I've said at ANY time during this duscussion, anything at all about how I supposedly feel the government should help us out, as you're claiming? I'll wait....

I'm supposedly a "tool", yet YOU'VE created a thread here about how or "why you don't need Trump", hypocrisy. When I bring up how I don't want to see you here bragging ot boasting about how you "demand" your Free stimulus check(don't bother cashing it, just return it, because you know, you supposedly "hate Trump"- not enough to cash any checks he sends you though huh? ****in hypocrite), you have a hilarious meltdown about it.

You're deflecting again, why can't you just admit that you're a hypocrite phony & you'll be the first in line with your hand out, "demanding" your money, all the while preaching here "Orange man bad", why is that so difficult for you to do? Is it because you don't want folks to see through your bullshit? I read many posts here & all you(& MANY) others seem to do is pile on & talk incessantly about "Orange man bad", then you try gang piling on others who disagree with you, it's absolutely hysterical to me. I just sit back a lot of times & lmao at some of the complete nonsense that spews from some of the maws here.

Oh, and before you or any of the other "Orange man bad" folks start chiming in with the "Your boy Trump did this and this, he's a blah blah blah blah" nonsensical babble, save it, why? I didn't vote for him, nor did I vote for Hitlery, as i thought both weren't very good candidates.

I'm also not one to blame the current POTUS for every little thing that goes wrong in this country. Doesn't act fast enough(to YOUR liking) on something? It's an "Orange man bad" diatribe. Says something wrong on Twitter you didn't like? That's another 30 minute meltdown explaining again how "Orange man bad".

It never ends & it's hilarious to me.

Some of you spend way too much time watching CNN and believing every word out of their mouthes.

Find a hobby, play cards, read a book, do something other than whine here about how a guy you've never met(& likely won't) has supposedly " screwed you 8 ways to Sunday", yet he has done no such thing.

Newsflash: ALL politicians are crooked, every single one. Dumbs and Repubs alike. No such thing as an "honest poiltican", they do not exist.

But hey, your wonky slants & opinions on something NO ONE HERE knows anything about, does always seem to get a few chuckles out of me, for that I thank you.
 

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Please point out where I've said at ANY time during this duscussion, anything at all about how I supposedly feel the government should help us out, as you're claiming? I'll wait....

I'm supposedly a "tool", yet YOU'VE created a thread here about how or "why you don't need Trump", hypocrisy. When I bring up how I don't want to see you here bragging ot boasting about how you "demand" your Free stimulus check(don't bother cashing it, just return it, because you know, you supposedly "hate Trump"- not enough to cash any checks he sends you though huh? @@@@in hypocrite)

You're deflecting again, why can't you just admit that you're a hypocrite, phony & you'll be the first in line with your hand out, "demanding" your money, all the while preaching here "Orange man bad", why is that so difficult for you to do? Is it because you don't want folks to see through your bullshit? I read many posts here & all you(& MANY) others seem to do is pile on & talk incessantly about "Orange man bad", then you try gang piling on others who disagree with you, it's absolutely hysterical to me. I just sit back a lot of times & lmao at some of the complete nonsense that spews from some of the maws here.

Oh, anf before you or any of the other "Orange man bad" folks start chiming on with the "Your boy Trump did this and this, he's a blah blah blah blah", save it, why? I didn't vote for him, nor did I vote for Hitlery, as i thought both weren't very good candidates.

I'm also not one to blame the current POTUS for every little thing that goes wrong in this country. Doesn't act fast enough(to YOUR liking) on something? It's an "Orange man bad" diatribe. Says something wrong on Twitter you didn't like? That's another 30 minute meltdown explaining again how "Orange man bad".

It never ends & it's hilarious to me.

Some of you spend way too much time watching CNN and believing every word out of their mouthes.

Find a hobby, play cards, read a book, do something other than whine here about how a guy you've never met(& likely won't) has supposedly " screwed you 8 ways to Sunday", yet he has done no such thing.

Newsflash: ALL politicians are crooked, every single one. Dumbs and Repubs alike. No such thing as an "honest poiltican", they do not exist.

But hey, your wonky slants & opinions on something NO ONE HERE knows anything about, does always seem to get a few chuckles out of me, for that I'mhank you.
Off your meds again, eh?

You guys are so uptight that if you sat on a lump of coal you'd poop a diamond an hour later.
 
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