[UberVato]

So I need help understanding this, because I’m upset everywhere I read, uber tells the public WE, the drivers are they main “expense”.

This gives the impression that WE are the problem, WE are the reason uber doesn’t make money 10 years later.

We shoulder the expenses to run this thing, from gas, maintenance, risk and labor. All this, while being told we will be replaced.

In spite of this, we are told we can’t get better rates, they are afraid to raise prices on riders because if they did, we would lose..apparently, this is somehow supposed to change once they invest in 3m SDCs??

So once they get these cars, and have pay for maintenance and fees, repairs and resources every time a single fuse decides to haywire in a huge electronic machine..only then they are going to charge the prices they are supposed to??? As if by then, riders will be ok with paying more than they are now?

I don’t understand the logic..pool riders for 5 bucks in 250,000 dollar cars? Ok??

 

[Workerant18]

Their problems are the driver, because they can’t keep the good drivers or the experienced drivers. Just think of it like a management. Would it be good if a company consistently changing their managers. Or sales floor, new salesperson don’t have return customers right away. Uber just took the easy way of telling why they are losing money.

 

[UberVato]

Their problems are the driver, because they can't keep the good drivers or the experienced drivers. Just think of it like a management. Would it be good if a company consistently changing their managers. Or sales floor, new salesperson don't have return customers right away. Uber just took the easy way of telling why they are losing money.

Exactly! This is why it's frustrating as hell.
From my POV, we are not "costing" them money... how does that even make sense?

By paying for all expenses , we are effectively "making" them all their money.

But they people otherwise, and people will believe them.

 

[Uber&getfat]

Yet people make life changing decisions to uber like those who come from another state to the bay so they uber lol..
People are stupid

 

[dragnet]

Their problems are the driver, because they can't keep the good drivers or the experienced drivers. Just think of it like a management. Would it be good if a company consistently changing their managers. Or sales floor, new salesperson don't have return customers right away. Uber just took the easy way of telling why they are losing money.

Nope. That's wrong, since the quality of the driver doesn't change the cost of the ride. A good driver and a bad driver both make the same time/distance rates.

 

[Anonymous1225]

Maybe we should work for free ! So Dara can have his 100 M bonus
You can’t complete with cheap muni fares and be successful , they need to pay their drivers more and take only 30% of the fare and of course get rid of pool ( look at Chariot they’re out of business)

 

[Uber&getfat]

Nope. That's wrong, since the quality of the driver doesn't change the cost of the ride. A good driver and a bad driver both make the same time/distance rates.

Lol if more people trust uber then we will have more riders .. bad experiences and good experiences lead others to change their behavior towards a brand ...

Someone did not do his hw

 

[New-Member]

Nope. That's wrong, since the quality of the driver doesn't change the cost of the ride. A good driver and a bad driver both make the same time/distance rates.

Nope that's wrong. Good drivers increase the chance of pax using Uber again. Get enough bad drivers and even the dumbest pax start to think twice about using Uber. As usual, Uber's argument is short sighted and carelessly dismissive. Try again team.

 

[UberVato]

Lol if more people trust uber then we will have more riders .. bad experiences and good experiences lead others to change their behavior towards a brand ...

Someone did not do his hw

Nope that's wrong. Good drivers increase the chance of pax using Uber again. Get enough bad drivers and even the dumbest pax start to think twice about using Uber. As usual, Uber's argument is short sighted and carelessly dismissive. Try again team.

This is very true to me. It's like uber makes more effort to maintain bad riders and pool riders... the way they structure our pay.

Like, I'm never happy when I have to deny a ride simply because it's not profitable, and worse, by the time I return home, I'd be close to losing money on it.

This mostly happens on long trips, these are actually the riders we SHOULD bs happy to see... they have money and need of the service... yet, most drivers wouldn't drive an sf riders to oak airport... denybthem s couple of times, and they should stop using uber..

 

[Workerant18]

Nope. That's wrong, since the quality of the driver doesn't change the cost of the ride. A good driver and a bad driver both make the same time/distance rates.

I remember when I was new to Uber made many mistakes. I don't know if they will ride with Uber again. But now I have a over 4.9 rating over at least 1 and half year. Most riders enjoy my service. Also when Uber was still new to the people, I always hear riders complained about Taxi being bad customer service and riders would take Uber or lyft eve if same price. Experienced drive can get from point A to point B faster let's say 10 minutes. After the drop off, they pick up another rider. When an inexperience driver takes 15 minutes, the next rider didn't have the patience, the rider choose the alternative transportation. Also dealing with people is one of the most expensive cost for a business, does New drivers had more technical problems or long time drivers? Uber spend lots of money to recruit new drivers.

 

[Regiscf]

So I need help understanding this, because I'm upset everywhere I read, uber tells the public WE, the drivers are they main "expense".

This gives the impression that WE are the problem, WE are the reason uber doesn't make money 10 years later.

We shoulder the expenses to run this thing, from gas, maintenance, risk and labor. All this, while being told we will be replaced.

In spite of this, we are told we can't get better rates, they are afraid to raise prices on riders because if they did, we would lose..apparently, this is somehow supposed to change once they invest in 3m SDCs??

So once they get these cars, and have pay for maintenance and fees, repairs and resources every time a single fuse decides to haywire in a huge electronic machine..only then they are going to charge the prices they are supposed to??? As if by then, riders will be ok with paying more than they are now?

I don't understand the logic..pool riders for 5 bucks in 250,000 dollar cars? Ok??

I have been saying this forever: bad with us, worse without us. No way the extra money (100% of the fare instead of 40% now) they will get with robocars will compensate for the costs of owning/operating the cars. They must be counting on doubling or trippling fare rates.

 

[BiggerDog]

There were not enough good commercial drivers.
They refuse to drive for such rates.
Quite a few have had accidents. It’s just not worth the risk.
Many have left.
Some just do not drive Uber anymore.

 

[BeansnRice]

Their problems are the driver, because they can't keep the good drivers or the experienced drivers. Just think of it like a management. Would it be good if a company consistently changing their managers. Or sales floor, new salesperson don't have return customers right away. Uber just took the easy way of telling why they are losing money.

Your answer is saying there is a management problem.
Who starts a business and says their failing because:

a) they have to hire people
b) there is technology that doesn't exist yet that would saaaaave the company if it were to ever be developed.

Then....who pays such high 8 figure salaries to management that only knows how to consistently post billion dollar losses.

Pay me 7 figures and I promise to only lose 2 billion a year instead of 3 billion plus.

What a bargain CEO I'd make instead of being a lowly Ant that is costing the company it's reputation and profits.

Sigh....

 

[treesweets dancer]

Your answer is saying there is a management problem.
Who starts a business and says their failing because:

a) they have to hire people
b) there is technology that doesn't exist yet that would saaaaave the company if it were to ever be developed.

Then....who pays such high 8 figure salaries to management that only knows how to consistently post billion dollar losses.

Pay me 7 figures and I promise to only lose 2 billion a year instead of 3 billion plus.

What a bargain CEO I'd make instead of being a lowly Ant that is costing the company it's reputation and profits.

Sigh....

An Uber CEO is expensive. An inexperienced 'nobody' wouldn't be able to instill confidence or any hope at all in investors. So they have to pay a CEO salary to get a real one. & which of those is gonna want to be at the helm of Uber unless it pays well. Either a sucker or someone paid enuff that it's worth taking the hit.

Anyone remember the Dara drives video? Painful pandering. They'd have been better off just letting him lie & say he spent 8hrs Ubering one day. Instead he had a peon ride with him while he picked up like 3 employees on 3 rides, made a dumb mistake on one cuz he doesn't know SF streets, dropped one like a block from their destination, then said "look, I drove Uber, I know what it's like now".

Who was that commercial for? Who sincerely sees that & thinks "wow, what integrity, that's a real leader there"? & who that helped make that thing sincerely believed anyone alive would think that? I would pay $50 to know the true answer to those questions. More if I had more. I seriously wanna know, like for anthropological insight.

#idon'tgetmyspecies

 

[REX HAVOC]

Their problems are the driver, because they can't keep the good drivers or the experienced drivers. Just think of it like a management. Would it be good if a company consistently changing their managers. Or sales floor, new salesperson don't have return customers right away. Uber just took the easy way of telling why they are losing money.

I'm tired of passengers complaining to me about bad driving experiences they've had while using the Uber app.

 

[dragnet]

Lol if more people trust uber then we will have more riders .. bad experiences and good experiences lead others to change their behavior towards a brand ...

That might be an interesting point if most drivers weren't already working both platforms.

 

[New-Member]

I'm tired of passengers complaining to me about bad driving experiences they've had while using the Uber app.

I generally don't talk to them anymore. 1 or 2 a day max.

 

[BiggerDog]

It use to be everyone in the neighborhood used black. I knew them, their spouse, kids, etc. and what they did.

It started to go down hill after X was launched. It became how many things with two legs can put on the platforms at less than cost. Hey, we get our percentage.

In 2017, it really took a dip. The wealthy just went elsewhere.

 

[REX HAVOC]

In 2017, it really took a dip. The wealthy just went elsewhere.

The wealthy now take the bus. It's much less crowded since Uber Pool came on board.

 

[BiggerDog]

They just don’t use Uber and Lyft anymore. They have a private car.

The wantabee wealthy take just about everything.