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Wait til you see the new unemployment guidlines :)

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1.Did the city you currently live in restrict you from driveing rideshare? Now if you caught Corona its a sure shot just submit the doctors note...

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Expanded Unemployment Benefits Under Federal Law During the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic
If you've been laid off or can't work because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, you could be eligible for unemployment benefits. The federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act made available three programs to states for expanded unemployment programs:

  • an additional $600 per week (through July 31, 2020), over and above the regular benefits provided by the state
  • 13 additional weeks of unemployment benefits, beyond the state's maximum, through December 31, 2020; and
  • unemployment benefits under the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program, through December 31, 2020, for some individuals who wouldn't otherwise qualify.
If you fit into one of categories of workers who aren't normally eligible for unemployment-including gig workers, independent contractors, the self employed, or people who don't have enough work history to qualify under Nevada's rules (discussed below)-you may be able to receive benefits through the PUA if you can't work for certain coronavirus-related reasons, such as because:

  • you can't get to your workplace due to a quarantine, or it was closed because of the public health emergency
  • you or someone in your household has COVID-19
  • you have to care for a child whose school is closed, or
  • you had to quit working because of COVID-19.
The CARES Act was signed into law on March 27, 2020, but there was a time lag before states could implement the law and process applications under the PUA. Check for COVID-19 updates from Nevada's Employment Security Division before applying.

looks like the state gives us unemployment until the strip opens back up. after that looks like no go
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Even with it being general and not ready, it outlined that becoming unsustainable due to a state or local order qualifies.

Maybe in Milwaukee it's biz as usual, but here in vegas that's easy to show by a state mandated closure of the tourism sector.

How come you keep skipping over the sustainability of rideshare drivers here in Las Vegas to talk about strippers?
Stripping is all cash and no 1099.

Unless a stripper filed taxes right and paid tax on those tips, their prof of income is nil. Self cash deposits? Accepted quickly? Come on.

This is a pandemic policy. Not basic unemployment. To say we as rideshare drivers have not been affected here is absurd.
I hope so.
Daniel keep in mind these are article I read today about the guidlines and how they "May" be interpreted.There is nothing official.I just found it found it interesting after not hearing anything for weeks until I read it.

Expanded Unemployment Benefits Under Federal Law During the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic
If you've been laid off or can't work because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, you could be eligible for unemployment benefits. The federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act made available three programs to states for expanded unemployment programs:

  • an additional $600 per week (through July 31, 2020), over and above the regular benefits provided by the state
  • 13 additional weeks of unemployment benefits, beyond the state's maximum, through December 31, 2020; and
  • unemployment benefits under the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program, through December 31, 2020, for some individuals who wouldn't otherwise qualify.
If you fit into one of categories of workers who aren't normally eligible for unemployment-including gig workers, independent contractors, the self employed, or people who don't have enough work history to qualify under Nevada's rules (discussed below)-you may be able to receive benefits through the PUA if you can't work for certain coronavirus-related reasons, such as because:

  • you can't get to your workplace due to a quarantine, or it was closed because of the public health emergency
  • you or someone in your household has COVID-19
  • you have to care for a child whose school is closed, or
  • you had to quit working because of COVID-19.
The CARES Act was signed into law on March 27, 2020, but there was a time lag before states could implement the law and process applications under the PUA. Check for COVID-19 updates from Nevada's Employment Security Division before applying.

looks like the state gives us unemployment until the strip opens back up. after that looks like no go
Was your workplace as a Uber driver shut down?Was your app not working due to the corona virus?We all know it sucks.Unemployment views things sometimes differently...Were you offered work this week?Did you refuse work?Were you available and seeking work?How do you answer that?

And how does Nv unemployment interpert it will be the big decision.
Here is the update

k) The individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for
unemployment assistance under this section.
 The Secretary has determined that, in addition to individuals who qualify for
benefits under the other criteria described above, an individual who works as an
independent contractor with reportable income may also qualify for PUA benefits
if he or she is unemployed, partially employed, or unable or unavailable to work
because the COVID-19 public health emergency has severely limited his or her
ability to continue performing his or her customary work activities, and has
thereby forced the individual to suspend such activities. For example, a driver for
a ridesharing service who receives an IRS Form 1099 from the ride sharing
service may not be eligible for PUA benefits under the other criteria outlined
above, because such an individual does not have a "place of employment," and
thus cannot claim that he or she is unable to work because his or her place of
employment has closed. However, under the additional eligibility criterion
established by the Secretary here, the driver may still qualify for PUA benefits if
he or she has been forced to suspend operations as a direct result of the COVID-
19 public health emergency.

Once again,

I have been forced to suspend my operations due to emergency state covid-19 oders that make continued operations unstainable for me.

We are covered under the law here in Las Vegas.
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Covered until the ban is lifted. Then we don't qualify
WOW! If RS peeps don't get this as soon as the eviction hold is lifted the I-15 South is going to be a parking lot! people will be fighting for scraps on these streets till September at least. And that's if everything goes right. If you plan on staying I would not renew your lease. Looks like rents may be coming WAAAY down back to 2012 levels or lower but you will have to move. Your current landlord will just keep charging you the same with an increase.
Here is the update

k) The individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for
unemployment assistance under this section.
 The Secretary has determined that, in addition to individuals who qualify for
benefits under the other criteria described above, an individual who works as an
independent contractor with reportable income may also qualify for PUA benefits
if he or she is unemployed, partially employed, or unable or unavailable to work
because the COVID-19 public health emergency has severely limited his or her
ability to continue performing his or her customary work activities, and has
thereby forced the individual to suspend such activities. For example, a driver for
a ridesharing service who receives an IRS Form 1099 from the ride sharing
service may not be eligible for PUA benefits under the other criteria outlined
above, because such an individual does not have a "place of employment," and
thus cannot claim that he or she is unable to work because his or her place of
employment has closed. However, under the additional eligibility criterion
established by the Secretary here, the driver may still qualify for PUA benefits if
he or she has been forced to suspend operations as a direct result of the COVID-
19 public health emergency.

Once again,

I have been forced to suspend my operations due to emergency state covid-19 oders that make continued operations unstainable for me.

We are covered under the law here in Las Vegas.
When did the governor stop rideshare?many drivers are still doing it?Strippers cant go to work because their clubs are closed.Whether its sustainable we both know its not and I agree with you.Will Unemployment agree that will be the million dollar quedtion.There are tons of drivers on here talking about makeing $10-$20 a hour doing Uber eats and still driveing.Now if you have or had the virus I think you will qualify easily.
Here is the update

k) The individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for
unemployment assistance under this section.
 The Secretary has determined that, in addition to individuals who qualify for
benefits under the other criteria described above, an individual who works as an
independent contractor with reportable income may also qualify for PUA benefits
if he or she is unemployed, partially employed, or unable or unavailable to work
because the COVID-19 public health emergency has severely limited his or her
ability to continue performing his or her customary work activities, and has
thereby forced the individual to suspend such activities. For example, a driver for
a ridesharing service who receives an IRS Form 1099 from the ride sharing
service may not be eligible for PUA benefits under the other criteria outlined
above, because such an individual does not have a "place of employment," and
thus cannot claim that he or she is unable to work because his or her place of
employment has closed. However, under the additional eligibility criterion
established by the Secretary here, the driver may still qualify for PUA benefits if
he or she has been forced to suspend operations as a direct result of the COVID-
19 public health emergency.

Once again,

I have been forced to suspend my operations due to emergency state covid-19 oders that make continued operations unstainable for me.

We are covered under the law here in Las Vegas.
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You do realize a lot of strip properties are taking reservations for May, right?

not looking good for your side of the argument. It's very much a slippery slope. Nothing about it is cut and dried easy peazy

looks like the state gives us unemployment until the strip opens back up. after that looks like no go
You do realize a lot of strip properties are taking reservations for May, right?

not looking good for your side of the argument. It's very much a slippery slope. Nothing about it is cut and dried easy peazy
Its not easy peezy.I just underlined his own post from the guidelines he posted.Am I missing something?
Driving rideshare is not uber eats or doordash. I've never done food delivery as a part of my company nor is my bisiness even signed up or approved for any of that.

I have my licences for rideshare, my 1099's, I have my prof of income lost to my business which was a direct result of a covid 19 order to close down tourism making me unsustainable.

Instead of fighting on why we aren't covered, we should be working together on how to make sure most of us are covered.

If you keep reading past your squiggle it clearly outlines exactly how rideshare drivers are covered
One month of unemployment if strip opens by end of the month. According to what I posted you get unemployment from when our governor sissylak closed the strip until when it's reopened. Thank the lord we have a wussy for a governor and will hopefully take extra precautions before opening the strip up. The drivers who thought they had it made for 4 to 6 months good luck.
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That whole section K outlines exaclly how we are covered as rideshare drivers. Their are more sections that pertain to a place of bisiness which we don't have.
Driving rideshare is not uber eats or doordash. I've never done food delivery as a part of my company nor is my bisiness even signed up or approved for any of that.

I have my licences for rideshare, my 1099's, I have my prof of income lost to my business which was a direct result of a covid 19 order to close down tourism making me unsustainable.

Instead of fighting on why we aren't covered, we should be working together on how to make sure most of us are covered.

If you keep reading past your squiggle it clearly outlines exactly how rideshare drivers are covered
I agree with you 100%.I hope everybody gets covered and has food to put on the table for their family.That we both agree on bro.
No, we get unemplemt until we are sustainable again. The order shut me down. I am down until its sustainable and will get at least partial unemployment until I make more than the minimum for coverage.

Here are all of the expanded sections

a) The individual has been diagnosed with COVID-19 or is experiencing symptoms of
COVID-19 and is seeking a medical diagnosis. Examples may include:
 An individual who has to quit his or her job as a direct result of COVID-19
because the individual has tested positive for the coronavirus or has been
diagnosed with COVID-19 by a qualified medical professional, and continuing
work activities, such as through telework, is not possible by virtue of such
diagnosis or condition;
 An individual who has to quit his or her job due to coming in direct contact
with someone who has tested positive for the coronavirus or has been
diagnosed by a medical professional as having COVID-19, and, on the advice
of a qualified medical health professional is required to resign from his or her
position in order to quarantine.
b) A member of the individual's household has been diagnosed with COVID-19. For
example:
 A member of the individual's household has been diagnosed as having
COVID-19 by a qualified medical professional or a member of the individual's
household has tested positive for COVID-19 and the individual is unable to
work as a result.
c) The individual is providing care for a family member or a member of the
individual's household who has been diagnosed with COVID-19. For example:
 An individual is "providing care" for a family member or a member of the
individual's household if the provision of care requires such ongoing and
constant attention that the individual's ability to perform other work functions
is severely limited. An individual who is assisting a family member who is
able to adequately care for him or herself is not "providing care" under this
category.
d) A child or other person in the household for which the individual has primary
caregiving responsibility is unable to attend school or another facility that is closed
as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency and such school or
facility care is required for the individual to work. For example:
 An individual has "primary caregiving responsibility" for a child or other
person in the household if he or she is required to remain at home to care for
the child or other person.
 This includes an individual whose job allows for telework, but for whom the
provision of care to the child or other person with a closed school or other

facility requires such ongoing and constant attention that it is not possible for
the individual to perform work at home.
e) The individual is unable to reach the place of employment because of a quarantine
imposed as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency. For example:
 An individual who is unable to reach his or her place of employment because
doing so would require the violation of a state or municipal order restricting
travel that was instituted to combat the spread of COVID-19.
f)The individual is unable to reach the place of employment because the individual has
been advised by a health care provider to self-quarantine due to concerns related to
COVID-19. Examples include:
 An individual who has been advised by a qualified medical professional that
he or she may be infected with the coronavirus and that he or she therefore
should self-quarantine. For example, an individual had direct contact with
another person who has tested positive for the coronavirus or been diagnosed
with COVID-19 by a qualified medical professional, and is advised by a health
care provider to self-quarantine to prevent further possible spread of the virus.
Such circumstances would render the individual unable to reach his or her
place of employment.
 An individual whose immune system is compromised by virtue of a serious
health condition and is therefore advised by a health care provider to self-
quarantine in order to avoid the greater-than-average health risks that the
individual might face if he or she were to become infected by the coronavirus.
g) The individual was scheduled to commence employment and does not have a job or
is unable to reach the job as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health
emergency. For example:
 An individual is unable to reach his or her job because doing so would require
the violation of a state or municipal order restricting travel that was instituted
to combat the spread of the coronavirus or the employer has closed the place of
employment.
 An individual does not have a job because the employer with whom the
individual was scheduled to commence employment has rescinded the job
offer as a direct result of the COVID-19 public health emergency.
h) The individual has become the breadwinner or major support for a household
because the head of the household has died as a direct result of COVID-19. For
example:
 An individual whose head of household previously contributed the majority of
financial support to the household died as a direct result of COVID-19, and the
individual is now the person in the household expected to provide such
financial support.

i)The individual has to quit his or her job as a direct result of COVID-19. For example:
 An individual was diagnosed with COVID-19 by a qualified medical
professional, and although the individual no longer has COVID-19, the illness
caused health complications that render the individual objectively unable to
perform his or her essential job functions, with or without a reasonable
accommodation.
j)The individual's place of employment is closed as a direct result of the COVID-19
public health emergency. For example:
 If a business is shut down due to an emergency declaration or due to necessary
social distancing protocols, the unemployment of individuals who worked in the
business would be considered a direct result of COVID-19.

And K is posted above which covers us as independent contractors or rideshare drivers.
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No, we get unemplemt until we are sustainable again. The order shut me down. I am down until its sustainable and will get at least partial unemployment until I make more than the minimum for coverage.
This isn't California. This state doesn't have a state income tax like California. If your business went down then work harder. The PUA is for people who are forced to not be able to work because of the quarantine being put out to stay home. Once thats lifted PUA is gone and the state goes back to its normal qualifying and we don't qualify
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Covered until the ban is lifted. Then we don't qualify
When was the ban made for rideshare drivers?Arent many still driveing.I dont remember reading a law that mandates rideshare companys shut down.
Only way to continue is to get the virus once the strip reopens
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Yes, there will be more guidence. More bullshit to read thru. But we need to manage this all together and find the best way forward to get covered while our business is dried up.
We were told by sissylak to stay home.
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