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Good for you bro. If we do 80 in our market we get 200 maybe. Quests have been degraded Big Time in our market.
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Mia Culpa... I'm not from your area. Where I am, an hour plus trip ALWAYS results in deadhead back.
If that's taking you to a place you want to be, jump on it and rock on!
They just started upfront pricing here and I’m thinking that I’m not going to bust my ass Monday Tuesday weDanes day for a quest number like you quoted. The weekend quests are way stronger so I’ll bust my butt on the weekendsGood for you bro. If we do 80 in our market we get 200 maybe. Quests have been degraded Big Time in our market.
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Getting a little desperate here aren’t we? One stars for not hitting a time estimate? That’s comical. I already mentioned 9am in Anaheim would be impossible to not get a ride to LA. Almost a ZERO percent chance of needing to deadhead.
You are very wrong. For starters, 32 miles is NOT two gallons unless the traffic was idling about 3 hours. Its one gallon for most and 2/3 of a gallon for Prius’s. So your gas estimate is exaggerated by at least $6.
THEN you double dipped by using the .30 figure WHICH ALREADY INCLUDES FUEL. So you now have added another $3ish that isn’t real.
Lastly you are committing the mistake of analyzing it and an individual ride rather than factoring any possibility that there may be a short high surges trip at the end of the rainbow in Anaheim.
So humbly speaking, you were wrong on just about every point……..
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I can accept I'm wrong about it, no biggie, that's why I was asking.
I'm not driving a Prius so don't have the fuel economy you do, and my maintenance costs and depreciation ($0.30/mile) are in addition to fuel costs. In that respect a Prius is pretty affordable.
Maybe the time estimate is accurate too, and maybe getting 1-starred is unrealistic, I've just come to expect 75 minutes to morph into 90 minutes because of changing traffic volume at those hours, but I'm not in CA. Maybe you haven't heard, "the app said 74 minutes, why didn't you drive faster?"
You are right on the deadhead--I would just expect to get screwed on that, but maybe not in CA, maybe Uber & Lift blow unicorn dust up your app on a regular basis. (I'm joking, thank your for clearing things up)
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So, third party operators will be working for free?
Who will be funding them? I'm curious to know.
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Nope. The time estimate nearly always underestimes and rarely accurately accounts for traffic. Google maps is far more accurate and takes into account traffic because they have everyone's cell phones locations live feed. Uber estimate and navigation is garbage.
Thinking that you got 1 starred because traffic (which is out of your control)is unrealistic. It maybe you were(or would be) 1 starred because the traffic caused(or would cause) you to appear visibly stressed and that made them nervous.
It often does, cuz Uber is estimating optimistically the best case scenario so they can make the sale and get the customer to pay for the ride.
I am. And there aren't that many surges during the weekdays here right now in the morning lately. Even by Disneyland, most surges have been on the weekends that I've been seeing in recent days.
Never. And if someone says that it's because they have poor time management skills and requested a ride at the last minute. Obviously we are going to get them there as quickly as we can while driving safely, so that's an idiotic thing for someone to say and it's just them lashing out because they ****ed up by being late because they requested a ride late and or didn't factor in traffic or rush hour. That's their bad, and there was nothing you or we could have done differently because driving fast and aggressively and unsafely only ends up shaving a couple minutes off and if they're that close to the wire then they could just have well have requested the ride 5 minutes earlier and when driving unsafe you risk not making it to the destination at all, either getting a ticket or into an accident , but the amount of time saved is not worth the risk of even just the amount of time lost if something bad happens.
Definitely do not worry about any comments like that, those people are morons.
As for quests, I'm getting
Weekdays:$150 for 70 trips ($80+$70 for 50+20 trips)
Weekends:$145 for 40 trips ($90+$55 for 30+10 trips)
I guess drivers are less wanting to deal with the drunks so hence the incentive to work weekends
That's the real problem with an 84 minute trip. That's what would make me decline it
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Who do you think is currently funding the Uber cars? Third-party operators (aka Drivers).
When autonomous vehicles become prevalent, a driver contractor who is currently operating a single vehicle will be able to own, operate and maintain several autonomous vehicles.
Just as it is now, operators will be paid for the use of the cars, but Uber will not be responsible for any of the costs or liabilities when something goes wrong.
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Quest will get smaller and smaller Then where is the money
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Surge
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They cap the surge. My areas has tons of surge $20 cap
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$20 is plenty high enough.
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That's the case in many if not most markets, especially for food delivery.
Most of my long distance food deliveries end up in residential areas miles away from restaurants which makes deadheading back to the staging area almost mandatory. This is why I won't accept long distance deliveries unless the payout is high enough to account for the deadheading.
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Not necessarily if the trip is long.
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Correct. So don't take long trips.
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I think driverless cars will not be cheaper than actual drivers, by reason in China they use workers instead of automation because it's cheaper. Rideshare is following the same path, drivers are paid less and less as prices of goods continues to quickly increase. If drivers basically cost nothing, why replace them with technology that costs something? If technology a company owns is in an accident the company that owns it is at fault (at least partially), if a driver is in an accident the tech company blames the driver, deplatforms them, and lets them deal with the ramifications (depending).
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Everytime uber brings out a new way to make money, stop and realise it means they're going to be the ones making it. Have they ever said we feel bad that you work for such little pay, so we're going to take money from our end and give it to you to make you feel better. Ubers uff are here to stay take it or leave it. I especially like the bs trip radar, oops you were too slow so we gave that ride to another driver, better luck next time.
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As long as there are ants picking up those trash rides this will never stop. NO incentive for uber to do so.
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They will operate like Amazon does. 3rd party companies that buy the trucks on their own dime, but agree to abide by Amazon's rules. But in the end those companies don't make any money and end up closing down, and a new one pops up in its place. You'll have businesses start up and try to run fleets of autonomous cars, and Uber will slowly squeeze the profit right out of it so they barely make anything. Kinda like now, but with fewer humans.
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