[Maven]

Unions say they help members get respect, be treated fairly, have a voice, get better wages and benefits from large corporations, like Uber. Do you think that Uber is terrified of unions? Uber lost a Seattle lawsuit.

• http://www.thestand.org/2015/12/seattles-for-hire-drivers-win-in-historic-vote/
• https://teamster.org/news/2016/04/uber-drivers-california-seek-form-association-teamsters
• https://teamster.org/news/2016/02/teamsters-condemn-uber-deactivation-outspoken-driver

Please take the poll and reply with what you think.

 

[JimKE]

Unions say a lot of things. Uber says a lot of things. I don't trust either.

 

[Go4]

Maven for a new member you have been doing a lot of posting with really in depth knowledge. Thank you.

I was worried you might be an Uber employee.

But after this post, asking for our opinion on joining a union, I'm not wondering anymore.

 

[Maven]

Thank you, Go4.

Hmm. I notice this thread was automagiclly moved to Information > Advocacy from "Community > Advise" where it was first posted. At least it was not removed entirely.

 

[circle1]

The best thing to do is have a national Guild with state-based chapters. I promise if I win the lottery I will fund this!

 

[phillipzx3]

Uber's "partners" pretty much screwed themselves out of any Union wanting to represent them. As the old saying goes," You made your bed, now sleep in it."

But I'm sure they'd be more than happy to collect money from you.

 

[Doowop]

www.wsj.com/articles/uber-gears-up-to-block-bid-to-form-a-union-in-seattle-1489237201

 

[circle1]

Uber's "partners" pretty much screwed themselves out of any Union wanting to represent them.

Could you elaborate?

www.wsj.com/articles/uber-gears-up-to-block-bid-to-form-a-union-in-seattle-1489237201

I UNliked this post after discovering that I could not read it . . . could somebody subscribe, then copy + paste it here, please?

 

[Jazzbaseball]

If they do unionize I would assume Uber will pull out of that area.

 

[Polomarko]

Only right think we can do. Unions are the best option.Get unionized and fight for dignity and respeckt.

 

[circle1]

If they do unionize I would assume Uber will pull out of that area.

But the loss of revenue would be YUUGE. Why on earth would a company pull out of such a lucrative market instead of slightly modifying it's business arrangement with its contractors??

- opt out of Pool
- increase minimum charge for a ride
- allow repeat pax/request driver

W H Y ??? This isn't asking for much!

Only right think we can do. Unions are the best option.Get unionized and fight for dignity and respeckt.

If thinking is involved at all, then let Local 117 hold an informational Q&A.

 

[Jesusdrivesuber]

Oh uber is ****ed in Seattle, like in India, every time they fail to negotiate... everyone goes offline for a day.

Pulling out of Austin and now I foresee Seattle because, they won't want to allow people to opt out of pool, will refuse to pay uberpool as it's supposed to be paid, they will not change rates and they will keep upfronting fees.

Don't like it? Do not drive but don't all do it at the same time!

 

[Doowop]

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...es-seattle-a-second-time-over-uber-union-law/

 

[I_Like_Spam]

As far as money is concerned, I can't see a union being able to raise rates at all, to any kind of significant degree.

I guess Uber could be pressured, theoretically, and raise uber x rates to $2 a mile, or more.

But you have to have passengers to actually pay the rates, and passengers are used to paying lower rates. Sure they can be used to paying more over time, but you're talking about a considerable length of time where the supply of drivers will far exceed the demand for rides. People will take the bus, get rides from their friends, walk, contract with lower priced ride sharing outfits that will look to join the market, get rides from taxis both licensed and unlicensed.

The old school idea of government regulating boards running a tight ship on transportation rates was killed dead by Uber.

 

[Maven]

As far as money is concerned, I can't see a union being able to raise rates at all, to any kind of significant degree. I guess Uber could be pressured, theoretically, and raise uber x rates to $2 a mile, or more.But you have to have passengers to actually pay the rates, and passengers are used to paying lower rates. Sure they can be used to paying more over time, but you're talking about a considerable length of time where the supply of drivers will far exceed the demand for rides. People will take the bus, get rides from their friends, walk, contract with lower priced ride sharing outfits that will look to join the market, get rides from taxis both licensed and unlicensed.

Uber is already increasing rates with no discernible decrease in riders or benefit to drivers. For example, give drivers a percentage of the recently increased booking fee so that drivers share in fare increases. Unions could pressure Uber for many driver benefits including:

• Increased pay
• Tipping feature on rider-App
• Reclassify drivers as employees, not independent contractors, qualifying for medical (also dental & vision) insurance and pension plans.
  
• Improve existing benefits including make insurance coverage in phase 1 same as phase 2 and 3. Decrease deductible from $1000 to $500 or $250
• Full-time benefits for driver-employees averaging over 30-hours per week.
  
• Retraining rather than deactivation during implementation of autonomous cars

The old school idea of government regulating boards running a tight ship on transportation rates was killed dead by Uber.

Not clear how this relates to the rest.

 

[uberlyfting123]

Never join a union ever. Don't ever think about forcing people unionize either. If you don't like what Uber is doing. Quit. Simple as that.

 

[Maven]

Never join a union ever. Don't ever think about forcing people unionize either. If you don't like what Uber is doing. Quit. Simple as that.

You seem to have succumbed to the anti-union propaganda disseminated by Uber and corporate management for as long as Unions have existed.

While Unions certainly have their problems, like any human institution, for over a century Unions have given workers a voice and been instrumental in improving safety standards, achieving higher pay and benefits such as health care and retirement, increasing the number of employees an employer assigns to complete the work, and better working conditions. For more, look up "Trade Union" on Wikipedia.

 

[uberlyfting123]

No thanks. Please keep Unions away. And I guarantee you I will be that uber driver working through any strike or work stoppage. Surges should be awesome!

 

[Mole]

Never join a union ever. Don't ever think about forcing people unionize either. If you don't like what Uber is doing. Quit. Simple as that.

I was a union member for 28 years and it was the best thing I have ever done in life besides getting married raising a family and constantly going to Las Vegas. I have a pension for life that I started collecting at the age of 48.

 

[uberlyfting123]

And exactly why I will never join a union. Someone has, actually too many people have to pay for that life. There might be a place for unions. But rideshare is not.