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I've seen several threads regarding unemployment but I've not personally seen anybody with answers about how to report Uber income while receiving unemployment.

I've called my unemployment office today and after enduring the worst run-around and hold music, I spoke to a woman who gave me answers from "a manager."

I was told to report earnings as gross minus the federal mileage rate (53.5 cents/mile for 2017) for periods 2 and 3. That is, the miles driven once assigned a passenger (period 2) and driving the passenger (period 3). Good luck separating those miles from miles driven with the app on to position yourself to receive a passenger (period 1).

Ultimately though, please call your own unemployment office, endure the hold time, and be sure to get the answers relevant to your situation.

Hope that is helpful!
 

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I've seen several threads regarding unemployment but I've not personally seen anybody with answers about how to report Uber income while receiving unemployment.

I've called my unemployment office today and after enduring the worst run-around and hold music, I spoke to a woman who gave me answers from "a manager."

I was told to report earnings as gross minus the federal mileage rate (53.5 cents/mile for 2017) for periods 2 and 3. That is, the miles driven once assigned a passenger and driving the passenger. Good luck separating those miles from miles driven to position yourself to receive a passenger.

Hope that is helpful!
So I get a ping from a rider 7 miles away, then driver the rider 3 miles.
The total business miles traveled is 10 miles.
Why do you only deduct 3 miles?
 

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So I get a ping from a rider 7 miles away, then driver the rider 3 miles.
The total business miles traveled is 10 miles.
Why do you only deduct 3 miles?
Nope, it would be 10 miles. Period 2 is the period once assigned a passenger and picking that passenger up. Period 3 is the period with the passenger. You just can't count the empty time when you do not have a passenger assigned (period 1).
 

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Nope, it would be 10 miles. Period 2 is the period once assigned a passenger and picking that passenger up. Period 3 is the period with the passenger. You just can't count the empty time when you do not have a passenger assigned (period 1).
Where is this information? It would be impossible to separate period1 and period2.
If app is on and you're rolling, you're on business time. Once parked you are invisible to the Uber/Lyft servers, so a car must keep broadcasting by moving or it won't get a ping.

If there is an actual tax law for this, provide a link or its non-sense.
I pay extra 'rideshare' insurance for 'commercial time' where I'm driving without a rider,
which is period1 time, and the insurance company considers this business time. Without this commercial insurance, I would not be covered for an accident without a rider.

Thus, period1 while broadcasting, moving and rolling to seek out riders is business distance.
 

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Why so hostile? If you don't like the information, call your own office and get answers for yourself...
  • Where is this information? I already told you.
  • It is not impossible, just difficult.
  • You are not invisible when parked, that is a fallacy. I and many others park to get rides all the time, and thus save myself money, miles, and a lot of U-turns. In fact, I regularly get rides while sitting in my recliner at home.
  • The reason you pay for Period 1 insurance is because Uber does NOT consider it work and the insurance company does. It's the grey area. By the way, if you shop around you will find purchasing such insurance is unnecessary as some companies already cover that time, like mine.
  • The information provided to me is not a tax law matter, but is consistent with the tax law which does not allow for mileage to be considered for the trip to work (which is what they consider period 1. The unemployment office stated that they considered period 1 to be the equivalent of the taxi driver driving to the depot to start the day.)
 

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Why so hostile? If you don't like the information, call your own office and get answers for yourself...
  • Where is this information? I already told you.
  • It is not impossible, just difficult.
  • You are not invisible when parked, that is a fallacy. I and many others park to get rides all the time, and thus save myself money, miles, and a lot of U-turns. In fact, I regularly get rides while sitting in my recliner at home.
  • The reason you pay for Period 1 insurance is because Uber does NOT consider it work and the insurance company does. It's the grey area. By the way, if you shop around you will find purchasing such insurance is unnecessary as some companies already cover that time, like mine.
  • The information provided to me is not a tax law matter, but is consistent with the tax law which does not allow for mileage to be considered for the trip to work (which is what they consider period 1. The unemployment office stated that they considered period 1 to be the equivalent of the taxi driver driving to the depot to start the day.)
I have to agree. I don't drive in Denver, I drive in Las Vegas. I can slowly roll past 20 Uber/Lyft cars at a rideshare area who are not moving and get a ping every single time. An UBER employee TOLD me this to my face, "Don't stage in one spot; keep moving to get a ride ping."

For this exact reason, moving is a crucial part of my income and I slowly roll from Hotel to Hotel all day. I do not sit in one spot for more than 1 minute. Ever.

I'm not hostile at you either. Incorrect information is an irritant, and if this info is based on nobody disagreeing and proving it wrong, then complacency irritates me. Rideshare is a technology platform, NOT A TAXI. We don't wait in lines to be called. We have to be visible to cell towers, and that's only possible 100% when moving. I worked in the cell tower industry for a few years and know cell site acquisition specialists and radio frequency engineers who have explained propagation to me in far greater detail than most people understand from casual knowledge.

Moving down the street keeps me visible to cell towers, and that creates income for me. Sitting still in Vegas = no rides. I know drivers who sit 8 hours and get no rides. I tell them to keep moving or they won't get rides. This mileage is tax deductible, and if its a grey area, this should shine some light on it so that gubment workers might now have a greater understanding of cell phone based ride-share businesses.
 

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I understand, but what irritates me is threads filled with speculation and nobody researching the answer. This is information is from just one "unemployment manager" and may differ in another office/state.
 

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I Report it as self employment income. Self employment income is easily understood by the bureaucrats. In California, they want your gross income number. I have never been asked for a weekly statement, or any other verification. Uber won't send any info to EDD. I wouldn't try to cheat. They're probably looking for ways to verify gig earnings. You don't report your net earnings with a regular job, that may or may not have several eligible deductions. Self employment is no different. There may Even be a tax to pay, IDK, I wouldn't be surprised.
 

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I have to agree. I don't drive in Denver, I drive in Las Vegas. I can slowly roll past 20 Uber/Lyft cars at a rideshare area who are not moving and get a ping every single time. An UBER employee TOLD me this to my face, "Don't stage in one spot; keep moving to get a ride ping."

For this exact reason, moving is a crucial part of my income and I slowly roll from Hotel to Hotel all day. I do not sit in one spot for more than 1 minute. Ever.

I'm not hostile at you either. Incorrect information is an irritant, and if this info is based on nobody disagreeing and proving it wrong, then complacency irritates me. Rideshare is a technology platform, NOT A TAXI. We don't wait in lines to be called. We have to be visible to cell towers, and that's only possible 100% when moving. I worked in the cell tower industry for a few years and know cell site acquisition specialists and radio frequency engineers who have explained propagation to me in far greater detail than most people understand from casual knowledge.

Moving down the street keeps me visible to cell towers, and that creates income for me. Sitting still in Vegas = no rides. I know drivers who sit 8 hours and get no rides. I tell them to keep moving or they won't get rides. This mileage is tax deductible, and if its a grey area, this should shine some light on it so that gubment workers might now have a greater understanding of cell phone based ride-share businesses.
What ridesharing are you talking about, you are not doing any ridesharing of any kind, you are a Taxi driver, nothing more nothing less.
 

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