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Fare per hour Top Drivers$31
hours online Top Drivers 28.5
Trips a week Top Drivers 54

These are UBERS numbers they send to us in Emails.

$883 in Fares According to UBER! A week! From top Drivers for UBER. TOP!
minus $81 in Booking fees for 54 trips. At 1.50 per
minus 25% Uber Take $200.
Driver is left with $601 for the week.
minus 20% for gas $120. Gas is $2.70 a gallon now!
Driver take home is $480 a week. THIS is pay for TOP drivers on UBER platform.
$24,000 a year, 50 weeks a year.

This is what Uber drivers make at the TOP of the uber platform.
But i can tell you Fare per hour of $31 is not true at all, Probably more like $15.
This means your average uber driver can make $12000 a year after ONLY gas expense.
Not including cell phone charges or the fact your driving your cars value into the ground.

THIS is straight from ubers MOUTH! look at your emails.

Also using Ubers numbers the average trip $8.89 cents in drivers pocket after gas! We all know that is not the case with pool or uberx. My personal per trip average is $4.25 after gas.
So you can see, Uber tells people they can make $70k a year or $2000 a week, but UBERS own top drivers only make $480 a week! And most make half that at around $250 a week for 30 hrs.

I would even suggest they are using Select drivers for fare rate of $31. and using uberx for trips taken and hours worked. Very deceitful if that is the case. I would not put it past them
 

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Uber is killing itself slowly.
maybe, or maybe not

They are really good at bringing new drivers onboard, but that can't last as people figure out it really can't deliver that much of an income to the drivers.

And relentless, predatory pricing has caused the passenger to devalue the services, it will be very difficult to get people to pay much more.

A cab from my home to Pittsburgh Int'l was $35 in 1996, the UberX fare is less than $30 twenty years after. That's nuts.
 

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There is a book out about Uber that discusses this. He actually breaks the numbers all the way down and it's even worse than what you have posted. The book was written by one of those top Uber drivers. It is called, Everybody Loves Uber. Here is a link to the book:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FOI8DXI/?tag=ubne0c-20
 

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Well, I'm assuming those are top drivers each week. That is to say, the same driver will not always hit those targets. Meaning that even the best drivers will make far less over the course of a year.
That is undoubtedly correct, as even the best Uber driver's income is based largely on the "luck" factor.

Cab drivers had more stability in income, as professional cabbies built up a clientele of "steady riders", and made connections with hotel doormen and restaurant matrie'd's who help steer paying customers. Uber proficiency would require figuring out how to get the computer to "ping" you specifically for the choice trips.
 

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What you did not take in to account is that the three metrics you posted info for are all for DIFFERENT sets of drivers, each being the top 20% for the category.

1) The top earners (top 20% in total earnings) had average of $31 per hour in gross fares, then
2) The drivers who worked the most hours (top 20% of drivers in total hours online) had app on for average of 28.5 hours.
3) The drivers who gave the most rides (top 20%) gave an average of 54 rides.

You CANNOT multiply category 1) times category 2) to get top gross weekly earnings for your city. Top earners in $$$ per hour will always be drivers who drive only a few busy hours per week and/or only accepted surge fares.

I have had weeks this year when my gross earnings were $75+ per hour according to the weekly report from Uber. Those were weeks when I only accepted surge fares of 2.1X+ and I had surge fares of up to 8.9X. When my per hour was through the roof, I only had the app on for a minimal number of hours those weeks -- and I was parked and had the app off and was waiting for the surge at least as many hours as I had the app on. But that way I ended up getting paid as much as $3.00+ per mile for the total miles I put on my odometer for the week, not just the paid Uber miles. And I still netted $30+ per hour for the hours I was out waiting and driving.
 

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Fare per hour Top Drivers$31
hours online Top Drivers 28.5
Trips a week Top Drivers 54

These are UBERS numbers they send to us in Emails.

$883 in Fares According to UBER! A week! From top Drivers for UBER. TOP!
minus $81 in Booking fees for 54 trips. At 1.50 per
minus 25% Uber Take $200.
Leaves driver with $601 for the week.
minus 20% for gas $120. Gas is $2.70 a gallon now!
Driver take home is $480 a week. THIS is pay for TOP drivers on UBER platform.
$24,000 a year, 50 weeks a year.

This is what Uber drivers make at the TOP of the uber platform.
But i can tell you Fare per hour of $31 is not true at all, Probably more like $15.
This means your average uber driver can make $12000 a year after ONLY gas expense.
Not including cell phone charges or the fact your driving your cars value into the ground.

THIS is straight from ubers MOUTH! look at your emails.

Also using Ubers numbers the average trip $8.89 cents in drivers pocket after gas! We all know that is not the case with pool or uberx. My personal per trip average is $4.25 after gas.
So you can see, Uber tells people they can make $70k a year or $2000 a week, but UBERS own top drivers only make $480 a week! And most make half that at around $250 a week for 30 hrs.

I would even suggest they are using Select drivers for fare rate of $31. and using uberx for trips taken and hours worked. Very deceitful if that is the case. I would not put it past them
What is your point or agenda? Are you a rider or media troll? Taxi nazi?
 

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What you did not take in to account is that the three metrics you posted info for are all for DIFFERENT sets of drivers, each being the top 20% for the category.

1) The top earners (top 20% in total earnings) had average of $31 per hour in gross fares, then
2) The drivers who worked the most hours (top 20% of drivers in total hours online) had app on for average of 28.5 hours.
3) The drivers who gave the most rides (top 20%) gave an average of 54 rides.

You CANNOT multiply category 1) times category 2) to get top gross weekly earnings for your city. Top earners in $$$ per hour will always be drivers who drive only a few busy hours per week and/or only accepted surge fares.
Well I know the top 20% that hit surges will take in more than $31, more like $50 but only for a few hours. So NO.
The drivers that had app on longest IF they are not in the top pay, THEN they made less money than I suggest.
And lastly the drivers that gave the most rides if they were not in the top 20% of hours on then who is? Logic would say they are. But if they are not then they did 54 rides that were short at $3 each. $150 to driver there for the week.
I think my point stands in OP as very valid.
 

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Uber will say anything to lure drivers into destroying their cars for them.

Rule of thumb: Anything uber says is a lie.
The biggest, and most important falsehood that Uber promulgates is that there is nothing to providing taxi services, its just driving around.

The reality is a lot different, the profession takes a big toll on the vehicles and requires actual strategery to make a decent amount of money.

Manipulative passengers require a level of sternness that a lot of people who respond to Sean Hannity's appeals to sign up for this "ideal" part time gig just aren't prepared to deal with.
 
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