The longer the trip the more money Uber makes with 2 pax rides ,while paying the driver mainly the price of 1 trip . It's only slight if it's a short trip.Talking to the ops at dc office I learned it's not double. They make a slight percentage gain when they have 2 riders, but uber eats the cost of an uber pool only has 1 rider. They are giving a 25% discount, and still paying us the same. So they lose when 1 rider pools occur. The slight gains they get from 2 rider pools pay for that.
Yes now take that same trip, and do it with 1 rider the whole trip, paying 25% less then 1.07.....The longer the trip the more money Uber makes with 2 pax rides ,while paying the driver mainly the price of 1 trip . It's only slight if it's a short trip.
Take the example. Go from BWI to Dulles. Pick first pax up at BWI,then drive 1 mile off course to get 2nd pax,then back on track. They both going to Dulles. Bmore rates you get paid about 50 bucks plus an extra $1.05 for going that one mile. While pax each pay about $40 each
They got you brain washed. Of course they going to say that. Look at an example with real numbersTalking to the ops at dc office I learned it's not double. They make a slight percentage gain when they have 2 riders, but uber eats the cost of an uber pool only has 1 rider. They are giving a 25% discount, and still paying us the same. So they lose when 1 rider pools occur. The slight gains they get from 2 rider pools pay for that.
What you fail to understand is,there is no money in time. You make your money by driving miles. The 5min it takes you to go off track and pick up a passenger pays you $1.the idea of pool is not to get more per ride, its to have people in your car longer.
20 mins*8 hours is 160 minutes(2 hours and 40 minutes).
2 hours and 40 minutes = 46$ gone on pickup up riders.
1/3 of my time driving has no one in the car.
if uber pool puts someone in the seat for a bit longer, thats good for my income.
Exactly he just doesnt get it. Uber would get paid DOUBLE for and airport trip while you are just getting paid an extra .05 per mile and a few dollars extra.What you fail to understand is,there is no money in time. You make your money by driving miles. The 5min it takes you to go off track and pick up a passenger pays you $1.
So please tell me how 2hr 40 minutes = $46?????
Thats the problem with pool,you only get paid per mile for the distance you go off track.once back on track, Uber bends you over and charges each pax for that same route,but the driver once.
UberPool sucks if you actually know how it works.
Again, if you go from BWI to Dulles,and you pick up another pax that takes you 1 mile off course and 5min,then then it only lenghtens the whole trip by 5min.You only get paid an extra dollar for time,and extra 1.05 for the mile!! Trip takes 40min to get to Dulles, you dont get paid any extra for that time.Just the time for 1 pax
I'm just not understanding what you are trying to say in the first post. Bottom line, if you go off track by 5min, you make $1 for that time, plus $1.07 for that mile extra.If it takes 1 mile to get each next ride. 4 miles for the 4 rides per hour. After 8 hours=32 miles or 32*1.02..the 32 is not 46 because 5 mins doesn't equal 1 mile....
The point being there is less dead miles if u get what I drew above.(albeit small, but add up over a night)
If u drop off rider b before rider a, then yes pool does nothing for you.
UBERX_IS_SOSO yes on 1 ride they do make much more money. However, when you have pool rides with only 1 rider, they are losing money. The profits from 2 riders trips pay for the losses of 1 rider trips. I can only assume the ratios are tilted in their favor, but at the end of the day, the sum of all pools is not double uberx trips. My math says 14 1 rider trip losses = 1 2 rider trip profit (assuming they all went same distances)
without poolRegardless if Uber loses or not, you only make 5cent extra per mile on a Pool trip.Where as you would make double the money if you took the 2 pax separately.
It doesnt really matter if you look at it per trip or per night, because it all adds up the same...you are looking at on a per trip basis.
when you pick up 1 rider, and pick/dropoff another rider before you drop off 1st, there is no pool advantage.
when you pick up 1 rider, pickup rider 2, drop off rider 1, then drop off rider 2 the miles between dropoff1 and dropoff2 are the advantage of pool. if pool didnt exist, i would have to drive around X miles or X minute
rider 1 is in rockville heading to the capitol. you drive, drop off. done.
rider 2 that was in bethesda is going to DCA. some other driver gets that one because you were driving.
you wait for some other random rider. you get a ping a mile away. 1 dead mile.
rider 1 is in rockville heading to capitol. you drive.
rider 2 in bethesda is going to DCA.you pick them up.
you drop off rider 1 at capitol.
you drive to DCA to dropoff 2.
All of the miles from capitol to DCA are bonus miles because of pool.
pool is not good in all scenarios. like i said. if rider 2 was going from north bethesda to south bethesda, then yes, pool is a waste.
lets assume for the sake of ease of math that i do 4 trips an hour for 8 hours. 32 trips total. every trip is 10 miles. at the end of the night I have driven 320 miles. if each of those trips, I have to drive 1 mile to get rider, then i just drove 32 dead miles. 352 total miles with pool, if I can get an additional 1-2 miles out of each trip(a trip consisting of 2 seperate pool riders), my number of dead miles is less.
AgreedI absolutely agree we should get more for 2 riders. My point is, its not like uber is making a killing on this, and we are getting screwed. we are getting some modest benefits from it, and uber is getting some modest profits from it.
yes, you get an extra $5.35+2 for the bonus mileage. again minimal, but it adds up.
in the end, i would say its modestly beneficial to the driver, but it could/should be a lot more beneficial.