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"Who are you here to pickup?"

Yep, i can see that going down well with drivers here.
lol so many hoops and loops to go through so can finally earn the 'privilege' to do a $5 fare...
rider: 'who are you here to pickup?'
driver: 'nobody, please close the door madam, just get a cab its all good'

too bad no extensive media coverage when a driver gets severely beaten or killed...
 

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lol so many hoops and loops to go through so can finally earn the 'privilege' to do a $5 fare...
rider: 'who are you here to pickup?'
driver: 'nobody, please close the door madam'

too bad no extensive media coverage when a driver gets severely beaten or killed...
Hundreds of drivers beaten to an inch of their life world wide & dozens more shot, stabbed and killed while uber smiles on and don't even blink an eye lid....

Moment some drunk woman "student" hop into a car that not even a "Rideshare vehicle." Or a registered Driver Uber moves heaven and earth to "protect their riders." Absolutely disgusting but I guess you got to protect the cash cows "riders." Drivers are disposable rubbish :redface:
Things are so unbalanced to the cash cows side of things it is absolutely disgraceful.

This thing shouldn't even be about Uber and Uber had full rights & protection to say it was not our driver partner & it was the student fault for not checking the vehicle as agreed upon in the rider/driver agreement that everyone read and digitally signed. Uber saw it as a PR opportunity and capitalized.

Which goes to show Uber is more than capable of "caring" when the situation suits it & has the personnel in place to do exactly that. Drivers don't get the same resources for their security or welfare and that guy there doesn't work for the drivers :biggrin: His in place for the protection of the cash cow riders. Good to see Uber assets goes into full swing for their riders though always "awe inspiring."

What kind of response does any driver get to the media when that driver crippled unable to move with a missing eye? Automated response :roflmao: While that rider is still on the platform enjoying rides and quite possibly could happen to the next driver.
 

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lol so many hoops and loops to go through so can finally earn the 'privilege' to do a $5 fare...
rider: 'who are you here to pickup?'
driver: 'nobody, please close the door madam, just get a cab its all good'

too bad no extensive media coverage when a driver gets severely beaten or killed...
Exactly what I was thinking.
Then it'll be "is this my ride?"
"Yes, that's all you get for $7".
Speed off shredding gravel on rider
 

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There was a really good forum article by @Lissetti who is a US mod about a month ago that was addressing the issue of news reporters telling people they should insist on getting the driver to say their name before getting in .... https://uberpeople.net/threads/dear-television-news-reporters.319839/

As she says in the article a driver asking the passenger for their name is the only thing they have to help them be sure they are getting the right passenger. I'm not sure if the 'ask them to say your name' comes from Uber or was added by the journalist because it wasn't part of the prompt that Uber was sending to her before pickup
 

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There was a really good forum article by @Lissetti who is a US mod about a month ago that was addressing the issue of news reporters telling people they should insist on getting the driver to say their name before getting in .... https://uberpeople.net/threads/dear-television-news-reporters.319839/

As she says in the article a driver asking the passenger for their name is the only thing they have to help them be sure they are getting the right passenger. I'm not sure if the 'ask them to say your name' comes from Uber or was added by the journalist because it wasn't part of the prompt that Uber was sending to her before pickup
Thanks. No it was the journalist. That woman caused me to near choke on my Starbucks coffee. She looked right into the camera and said, "Make sure you get the driver to tell you your name! Do not give your name to the driver. Make them say your name. They have it in their app.They better know your name!"

This is the journalist, Brandi Kruse:

 

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I don't understand why ant's saying pax's name is a joke. It is kind a mutual authentication protocol between unfamiliar parties and to prove that both of parties have legitimate token (trip from Uber), both of the entities should be able to provide the information which are unknown to the outside world to the peer. As a proof peer's name is quite legitimate because only both of parties know peer's name as well as their own name.

- trip_info(ant_name, pax_name)

ant <- pax: what is your rider's name?
ant -> pax: pax_name
pax: check!
ant -> pax: what is your driver's name?
ant <- pax: ant_name
ant: check!

I don't find any problem in this mutual authentication protocol.
 

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Hundreds of drivers beaten to an inch of their life world wide & dozens more shot, stabbed and killed while uber smiles on and don't even blink an eye lid....

Moment some drunk woman "student" hop into a car that not even a "Rideshare vehicle." Or a registered Driver Uber moves heaven and earth to "protect their riders." Absolutely disgusting but I guess you got to protect the cash cows "riders." Drivers are disposable rubbish :redface:
Things are so unbalanced to the cash cows side of things it is absolutely disgraceful.

This thing shouldn't even be about Uber and Uber had full rights & protection to say it was not our driver partner & it was the student fault for not checking the vehicle as agreed upon in the rider/driver agreement that everyone read and digitally signed. Uber saw it as a PR opportunity and capitalized.

Which goes to show Uber is more than capable of "caring" when the situation suits it & has the personnel in place to do exactly that. Drivers don't get the same resources for their security or welfare and that guy there doesn't work for the drivers :biggrin: His in place for the protection of the cash cow riders. Good to see Uber assets goes into full swing for their riders though always "awe inspiring."

What kind of response does any driver get to the media when that driver crippled unable to move with a missing eye? Automated response :roflmao: While that rider is still on the platform enjoying rides and quite possibly could happen to the next driver.
No different to taxi drivers who have copped the same abuse from drug impared drivers since the dawn of time, media don't care they see drivers as lower than pond scum.

At least taxi drivers can stick up for themselves though as pax complaints get ignored and no having to worry about getting shut down over one false pax complaint unlike the poor uber ants holding up the pyramid.
 

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I don't understand why ant's saying pax's name is a joke. It is kind a mutual authentication protocol between unfamiliar parties and to prove that both of parties have legitimate token (trip from Uber), both of the entities should be able to provide the information which are unknown to the outside world to the peer. As a proof peer's name is quite legitimate because only both of parties know peer's name as well as their own name.

- trip_info(ant_name, pax_name)

ant <- pax: what is your rider's name?
ant -> pax: pax_name
pax: check!
ant -> pax: what is your driver's name?
ant <- pax: ant_name
ant: check!

I don't find any problem in this mutual authentication protocol.
Agree, simple and effect protocol that I have been using since day one when I became a pax three years ago.
Once they are in the car, I start the journey so I know where they go, again I confirm the address and finally ask them if they know a better way or follow the map
 

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Agree, simple and effect protocol that I have been using since day one when I became a pax three years ago.
Once they are in the car, I start the journey so I know where they go, again I confirm the address and finally ask them if they know a better way or follow the map
Except the Uber advised protocol has always been to get the passenger to tell you their name. I guess the alternative of telling the other person's name works as well ...
Just not how it has been done so far.
Personally it is hardly ever an issue from ne as I have very few pickups from really busy locations and most passengers greet me by name anyway
 

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Love how the reporter referred to the pax maybe finding it hard to check the licence plate, car model and driver if they are drunk!!

If the rider is too drunk to look after their own safety, perhaps they should be getting in a police car?? Or a least a friends car.

Maybe their friends would like magical vomit shower in their car!!

I hate how some people’s “supposed” friends throw them intoxicated into a cab or a rideshare.

Yet another example of having to hold peoples hands in this world because they can’t look after themselves!
 

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Thanks. No it was the journalist. That woman caused me to near choke on my Starbucks coffee. She looked right into the camera and said, "Make sure you get the driver to tell you your name! Do not give your name to the driver. Make them say your name. They have it in their app.They better know your name!"

This is the journalist, Brandi Kruse:

You can afford a starbucks on an uber salary? Aren't they live $9 in the USA?

I don't understand why ant's saying pax's name is a joke. It is kind a mutual authentication protocol between unfamiliar parties and to prove that both of parties have legitimate token (trip from Uber), both of the entities should be able to provide the information which are unknown to the outside world to the peer. As a proof peer's name is quite legitimate because only both of parties know peer's name as well as their own name.

- trip_info(ant_name, pax_name)

ant <- pax: what is your rider's name?
ant -> pax: pax_name
pax: check!
ant -> pax: what is your driver's name?
ant <- pax: ant_name
ant: check!

I don't find any problem in this mutual authentication protocol.
As long as you're on the clock and earning BIG $$$ while the authentication process is ongoing, sure.
 

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I don't understand why ant's saying pax's name is a joke. It is kind a mutual authentication protocol between unfamiliar parties and to prove that both of parties have legitimate token (trip from Uber), both of the entities should be able to provide the information which are unknown to the outside world to the peer. As a proof peer's name is quite legitimate because only both of parties know peer's name as well as their own name.

- trip_info(ant_name, pax_name)

ant <- pax: what is your rider's name?
ant -> pax: pax_name
pax: check!
ant -> pax: what is your driver's name?
ant <- pax: ant_name
ant: check!

I don't find any problem in this mutual authentication protocol.
the problem is when pax come for your car and ask you who you were going to pick up and they say yeah that's me even though it's not them... I've learnt my lesson long ago... I'm asking for their name if they're name matches with what I have on the app then they can jump in... If someone else booked it for them they should know that person so they should be able to confirm the person's name anyway.
 
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