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After Dara Khosrowshahi was appointed the new CEO of Uber, it did seem that things might improve for drivers. Positive announcements seemed abundant and from what I could tell, drivers were pretty happy with the changes as a whole.

But that hope was dashed this week as Ridester has learned that Uber has sent a message to drivers in Louisiana and Florida notifying them that they have increased rates for passengers but informing them that none of the price increase will be shared with drivers.



To say the least, drivers are outraged by this. And many drivers in other cities are afraid. Because they know Uber often tests out their new (bad) ideas in smaller markets before they roll them out nationwide.

In the driver notice sent to Baton Rouge drivers Uber said:

 

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You should periodically read the emails Uber sends. On the Home screen you can scroll down below the map to see other notices.

San Diego had this notice not too long ago, I think increases were higher. I also received this notice for Orange County a few weeks back for trips up there.

Not really sure why this post about out of state increases is in the San Diego forum now, though.
 

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You should periodically read the emails Uber sends. On the Home screen you can scroll down below the map to see other notices.

San Diego had this notice not too long ago, I think increases were higher. I also received this notice for Orange County a few weeks back for trips up there.

Not really sure why this post about out of state increases is in the San Diego forum now, though.
The point being is that they are rolling out the price increases in certain cities but it will eventually hit San Diego. Right now Uber charges $1.16 per mile and we get 20 or 25% of that amount. If they raise what the passenger pays to a $1.26 a mile we will still only receive 20 or 25% of $1.16 if it follows the pattern of the other cities.
 

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The point being is that they are rolling out the price increases in certain cities but it will eventually hit San Diego. Right now Uber charges $1.16 per mile and we get 20 or 25% of that amount. If they raise what the passenger pays to a $1.26 a mile we will still only receive 20 or 25% of $1.16 if it follows the pattern of the other cities.
75% to 80%.
 

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They're getting sued now by CA to prove that drivers are contractors rather than employees after Dynamex's case. Thay have to pass the ABC test:

(A) that the worker is free from the control and direction of the hiring entity in connection with the performance of the work, both under the contract for the performance of the work and in fact; and

(B) that the worker performs work that is outside the usual course of the hiring entity's business; and

(C) that the worker is customarily engaged in an independently established trade, occupation, or business of the same nature as the work performed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstec...f-your-drivers-arent-employees-then-prove-it/

Can't wait to see how this goes down. I'm suspecious tgis why so many drivers in CA were deactivated in recent months. Heard somethijg like 4300 drivers are deactivated in LA alone.
 

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I have been an independent contractor for 18 years. The one thing that gets me is the paying of cleaning fees. Why Uber/Lyft is in any way responsible for paying an independent contractor, using their own tool (car in this case) is in any way somehow responsible a contractor's damage is beyond me. Too many ill-informed people think they know the difference between contractor and employee. Only one entity matters in the end: the IRS. The above ABC example is total absurdity and laughable if only 3 points differentiated a contractor versus an employee.
 

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It's not that absurd and certainly not laughable.

The IRS is king for the purpose of the payment of taxes to the Federal government. In that respect, you're absolutely correct. Yellowservices' link left a little to be desired. The IRS doesn't really care how you've made your money as long as they get their pound of flesh. They don't really have anything to do with state level definitions of employees except for their own internal definitions for the purposes of collecting federal taxes.

The sovereign State of California, as do all the 50 states, have the right to establish their own labor law and labor standards. For the purposes of the protection of workers, California has created the standards and definitions that described the differences in the different types of ways of earning income, be it as an independent business (which we as drivers actually are, just ask the IRS) or as someone employed by someone else or a business entity of some type.

Dynemex case could potentially have an impact on rideshare drivers. What that impact would be is yet to be determined. Hopefully, something in our favor.

Actually, the people seeking the info from Uber/Lyft is the District Attorney for the City of San Francisco. It has the potential to really push the issue.

Here's a rather lengthy explanation of the background of the Dynemex case and an explanation of the conclusions of the California Supreme Court regarding the case. It's a brutal read but you can skip down to the ABCs of the thing for an explanation of the ABCs.

www.laboremploymentlawblog.com/2018/05/articles/class-actions/dynamex-decision-independent-contractors/
 
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