[SharedRideTruther]

Alaska state just won 78K from Uber for the lie of 'independent contractor' drivers.

CLICK HERE to read about it, since it just happened Sept 3, 2015, 'quietly'.

San Francisco is up next.

I wonder, with the state of Alaska WINNING a judgement against UBER, what are the legal repercussions for OTHER STATES that want to dance that dance?

Time shall tell.

Uber is a going to have a driver revolt is my bet, sooner than later.

Thanks for reading.

 

[glados]

Would you like Uber to pull out of San Francisco too??

Truth is, being classified as employees will only hurt PARNTERS. Uber will be bogged down by the red tape of state payrolls tax, unemployment insurance, etc. This means they'll have to increase their cut.

Oh, and if Uber paid for your expenses, then do you think they'll let you drive anything but a Prius or other low maintenance vehicle? If you don't drive a Prius... deactivated, bye-bye.

Btw... all of the settlement money went to the state. Even if you get classified as employees in your state, drivers will get a fat $0 with Uber suspended in their state.

 

[Renaldow]

Wow, $78k from a multibillion dollar company? Not sure I'd call that 'won'.

 

[glados]

Wow, $78k from a multibillion dollar company? Not sure I'd call that 'won'.

Exactly. Uber found it cheaper to pay $78k than continue the court case, so they settled without a precedent being set.

 

[SharedRideTruther]

Wow, $78k from a multibillion dollar company? Not sure I'd call that 'won'.

don't miss the point Renaldow
they were sued about the independent contractor lie.
they paid a settlement.
there is a precedent building.
the dollar figure is incidental at this point of Ubers lawsuit 'future', IMHO.

 

[Renaldow]

I think a lot of folks are missing the point and thinking being classified as an employee is a good thing. Also, the main point I see in that article is that Uber is no longer operating in AK.

 

[glados]

there is a precedent building.

No, Uber settled without an admission of guilt. No precedent.

 

[glados]

I think a lot of folks are missing the point and thinking being classified as an employee is a good thing. Also, the main point I see in that article is that Uber is no longer operating in AK.

If you want to be classified as an employee, keep in mind you can forget about surges! Uber won't need surges to incentivize drivers. Your manager can call you and tell you to come to X when there's high demand, or you're fired.

Drivers are being conned by lawyers who are the only ones that will profit from a lawsuit.

 

[pengduck]

Would you like Uber to pull out of San Francisco too??

Truth is, being classified as employees will only hurt PARNTERS. Uber will be bogged down by the red tape of state payrolls tax, unemployment insurance, etc. This means they'll have to increase their cut.

Oh, and if Uber paid for your expenses, then do you think they'll let you drive anything but a Prius or other low maintenance vehicle? If you don't drive a Prius... deactivated, bye-bye.

Btw... all of the settlement money went to the state. Even if you get classified as employees in your state, drivers will get a fat $0 with Uber suspended in their state.

If they would raise the damn rates where we actually could pay these taxes maybe the lawsuits would stop!

 

[glados]

If they would raise the damn rates where we actually could pay these taxes maybe the lawsuits would stop!

If you're unhappy... stop driving for Uber!

Uber doesn't owe you anything.

 

[RockinEZ]

Would you like Uber to pull out of San Francisco too??

Truth is, being classified as employees will only hurt PARNTERS. Uber will be bogged down by the red tape of state payrolls tax, unemployment insurance, etc. This means they'll have to increase their cut.

Oh, and if Uber paid for your expenses, then do you think they'll let you drive anything but a Prius or other low maintenance vehicle? If you don't drive a Prius... deactivated, bye-bye.

Btw... all of the settlement money went to the state. Even if you get classified as employees in your state, drivers will get a fat $0 with Uber suspended in their state.

Shill talk if I ever heard it.
Think in a non-linear way, and you will understand that Uber will never make drivers employees, but they will have to treat us as true private contractors.
"If you don't think too good, don't think too much". Every baseball fan knows who said that.

 

[glados]

Think in a non-linear way, and you will understand that Uber will never make drivers employees, but they will have to treat us as true private contractors.

If Uber is unable to deactivate drivers who makes pax unsafe with unsolicited sexual advances, dirty cars with wet seats, etc, then pax will stop using Uber. What do you think will happen next?!

Furthermore you can say goodbye to guarantees.

Uber treating you like a true IC is good if:
- you're a jackass and you get more 1 stars than 5 stars for being rude, racist, sexually assault pax
- you keep your vehicle unclean, unhealthy, and unsafe
- you don't care about making even less money as pax stops using uber

Think about it. Uber gets 20%/25% of what YOU make. The more $ you make, the more Uber gets. It's actually a perfectly aligned incentive, and Uber will not have this hybrid model if it's not making them (YOU) more money. Uber spends $$$ on driver onboarding, why would they willingly deactivate people except when it's in their (and your) best interests to do so?

 

[pengduck]

If you're unhappy... stop driving for Uber!

Uber doesn't owe you anything.

Ok let's do some math usd vs aud. Sydney rates vs Raleigh rates.
Base Fare - S - 1.72 R - 1.10 +56.36%
Minute - .28 .18 +55.55%
Mile - 1.61 .85 +89.41%
Min Fare - 5.52 4.00 +38.00%
Cancellation - 6.90 4.00 +72.50%
So I guess if we had the same rates as you do there really wouldn't be anything to ***** about. For your knowledge these figures were done at the current USD to AUD exchange rate.

 

[SharedRideTruther]

If you want to be classified as an employee, keep in mind you can forget about surges! Uber won't need surges to incentivize drivers. Your manager can call you and tell you to come to X when there's high demand, or you're fired.

Oh, and if you're an employee... Uber can make you DECLINE CASH TIPS.

Would you like Uber to pull out of San Francisco too??

Truth is, being classified as employees will only hurt PARNTERS. Uber will be bogged down by the red tape of state payrolls tax, unemployment insurance, etc. This means they'll have to increase their cut.

Oh, and if Uber paid for your expenses, then do you think they'll let you drive anything but a Prius or other low maintenance vehicle? If you don't drive a Prius... deactivated, bye-bye.

Btw... all of the settlement money went to the state. Even if you get classified as employees in your state, drivers will get a fat $0 with Uber suspended in their state.

my friend, YOU are NOT a PARTNER of Ubers.

stop with that bull- shizzle, it's staining your 'credibility shirt'.

you are 'sweat shop labor in Guatemala', to make more money for the big boys in the corner office, who may or may not have stolen the whole idea from THIS GUY (CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO)

Google the word Partner, then stop using it in regards to Uber drivers, please, for the love of (insert your politically correct Diety HERE (I prefer GOD)).

Unless you are an Uber employee monitoring these independent boards, then, sadly, nothing near reasonable dialogue will make sense to you in your defense of your employer.

I may be wrong, but I also thought Tebow made the Eagles after they traded Barkley Friday, so that's twice this year I've been wrong, and its September.

Thanks for reading...

 

[RockinEZ]

If Uber is unable to deactivate drivers who makes pax unsafe with unsolicited sexual advances, dirty cars with wet seats, etc, then pax will stop using Uber. What do you think will happen next?!

Furthermore you can say goodbye to guarantees.

Uber treating you like a true IC is good if:
- you're a jackass and you get more 1 stars than 5 stars for being rude, racist, sexually assault pax
- you keep your vehicle unclean, unhealthy, and unsafe
- you don't care about making even less money as pax stops using uber

Think about it. Uber gets 20%/25% of what YOU make. The more $ you make, the more Uber gets. It's actually a perfectly aligned incentive, and Uber will not have this hybrid model if it's not making them (YOU) more money. Uber spends $$$ on driver onboarding, why would they willingly deactivate people except when it's in their (and your) best interests to do so?

I have to clean the car, and not have piss soaked seats....Hell I may as well drive a cab.

 

[glados]

I have to clean the car, and not have piss soaked seats....Hell I may as well drive a cab.

Sure, if you like working 12 hour shifts and paying a 65% commission to lease a medallion!

 

[RockinEZ]

Sure, if you like working 12 hour shifts and paying a 65% commission to lease a medallion!

If you get the back support thingie, or the beaded seat cover... I'm in.

 

[UberNorthStar]

. . . being classified as employees will only hurt PARNTERS.

If Uber (U) were to have an agreement with its ICs that was not so one-sided, we would not be witching!

1. Allow us to be represented as a group by an outside agency to be sure the agreement is in the ICs' best interest. U has its lawyers for its representation.
2. No discouraging of tipping by U in any way, shape, or form. To reverse previous messages to pax, U will put a statement on rider's app that "Tip is not included.".
3. Rates/fees per mile/min are to be set no less than 75% of the average local major taxi cab companies in each city.
4. U drops its commission to no more than 15% on all platforms. No more raising commissionson for high platforms to make up for low rates on X & XL platforms.
5. If U keeps commission at 20%, U is to pay each driver 18¢ per mile on the # of miles clocked on each driver's pay period while driving to pax until pax is at destination or trip is ended to pay 1/2 the cost of running a car.
5. ICs will not be limited to driving just on U app. IC's outside legal business is of no concern to U.
6. Ratings on drivers will cease. If a rider has a comment on a rider, U will provide a B.I.T.C.H. link for such.
B-eautiful
I-ntelligent
T-alented
C-harming
H-elpful

No comments? The driver is good to go.

stop driving for Uber!

IC's do not drive for U. We drive for our individual businesses utilizing the U app. We are U' s customer base b/c we pay U to use the app.

JM2¢W

 

[chi1cabby]

glados reading through your posts, I can say that you are quite under informed about the topic of Employee vs Independent Contractor misclassification issue in the U.S.

You're quite happy with UberX in Sydney at these rates:

Translated to US$, that's $1.55/Mile + $0.27/Minute.
Now compare that to US Rates
https://uberpeople.net/pages/Pricing/

You should perhaps devote some time on Uber's UberX Insurance Coverage for Australian Drivers:

Australia | Uber's Insurance Policy

 

[Renaldow]

If you get the back support thingie, or the beaded seat cover... I'm in.

They have those on Amazon for $12. http://amzn.to/1K04lLp Of course since you're an IC you'll have to buy it yourself.