Well there was a ruling, and Uber is appealing. But winning an appeal means proving there was an error in litigation, not that the judge was wrong in the initial ruling. So as soon as they lose the appeal, they will still be classified as employees.
I don't. Which is why I want Uber to stop treating me like one. It's Uber's treatment of drivers like we are employees that makes it suck. When the judicial system makes it clear to Uber that the way they treat drivers makes them employees, Uber will have to start treating drivers like independent contractors.... because there is no way they can afford the legal burdens of all their drivers being employees.
There are plenty of reasons to remain independent contractors. The best thing for Texas drivers is for the California ruling to be upheld, and Uber be forced to do business in an ethical manner instead of operating in the gray area.
Yeah if I'm made to be an employee of Uber i'm not sure I'll still drive. I would have to look at the pro's and cons of it. I know many of us are part timers for Uber with full time jobs so this could in a sense hurt us. Those that are full time Uber or in-between jobs doing Uber I think they will benefit the most from being classed as and Employee of Uber.
I don't want to be an employee. If the ruling goes against Uber, do you think Uber would make everyone employees? No. They'll be forced to treat us more as real independent contractors. I see that as a good thing.
Well, they simply don't get to have it both ways. As a matter of fact, on the updated fare schedule, I did notice one very important line. We pay them for use of the app for our businesses. That actually should make Uber more accountable to us, and not the other way around.
This is what has made it so mind boggling to me that they have continued to push their rate lowering, manipulation based agenda on us over these last few months. You'd think that if there were any living, breathing, intelligent people at Uber that they would have seen the writing on the wall from Cali and plenty of other bad publicity and maybe backed the **** off. But like any start up they think they have reinvented the wheel and they know better than anyone else what to do and how to do it. It is literally the startup Manifesto.
Sounds like a great time to rock the boat and get some bad publicity going for them in Texas....!!!! ;-)
Don't want to be a employee either, let the supreme court rule on this years to come. Stop bringing this subject up. There plenty of post already on it
They could do it fairly easily, but would have do eliminate the punitive policies like deactivating for declining trips. Just put the rides up, drivers can take them or leave them. They COULD keep the policy of deactivating, or even possibly a chargeback for cancellation once the trip is accepted. They'd probably have to collect destination addresses, in order to post the job rates. They would probably have to stop the guarantees, and start actually relying on the market to work without their artificial inflation, as some of those tactics have resulted in these gray areas. I would think that paxs would need to be able to pick their driver too...sort of an "eBay" model.
If they'd had any transportation business sense they would have set it up this way in the first place. Now it will suffer many PR blows because they've convinced paxs that a ride is on every corner, dirt cheap. Although, regardless of the ruling, they are ultimately going to have to cross that bridge.The days of city bus rates in a personal vehicle are numbered.
Why read the old news. As far as I can remember, Judge Chen is making that call. The commission is just a government agency that regulates. so to say
And they did this in June 16th ish,,
Judge Chen will decide whether or not 3 deactivated drivers represent 160,000 people.
I signed up based on what I was told.
That I am an independent contractor.
I am licensed to use the app.
The judge could
split this thing up let the 3 continue individually based on their individual experiences.
set major and minor classes.
Rule that future cases be handled case by case.
Dismiss it.
Find cause and still allow those driver's who wish to be independent be independent.
1. Many signed up based on what they were TOLD. That's part of the problem for many drivers as they made financial decisions based on misleading and at times completely false statements.
2. Texas law specifically states that employee status is not determined by what you are TOLD or what is asserted to by the employer. So that argument is specious.
Employers can exhibit control over when and where employees work. Text messages and emails exerting pressure to "get out and earn more" are evidence of an employer-employee relationship, as are ratings based deactivations.
It's actually pressure to go make them more money by racing to a crowded event venue and pick up some great $3.00 rides.
And I keep the emails and texts for evidence.
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This tidbit was on my last week report . I have a lyft logo on my door and no Uber logo. In the past I could have been deactivated for this, but now they understand that that would make them an employer, so they leave me alone. Being an independent contractor, a real one, is the solution to all their legal problem
That's pretty generic. I've gotten two of them in the past month or so, and I haven't promoted any other businesses and I don't have the competitors logo in my car either
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