I have no problem whatsoever with taking service dogs. I've actually hauled two pet dogs before thinking that perhaps, what if they're not properly vaccinated (I know service dogs are likely to be), etc. Then the potential issue with fleas. So, I'm not talking about disallowing SERVICE animals, but any of the sundry others that people like to call "service animals" but aren't, as you so aptly explain the difference between companion and service. I did not know that. I've only read about the plethora of people trying to get their dogs acknowledged as service and what seems to be willy-nilly regulation about the subject. Maybe I'm wrong about the latter.
Uber Driver fired & arrested for not taking service animal.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article88139382.html
Florida Uber driver arrested after refusing ride to blind man, service dog.
Associated Press
ORLANDO
An Uber driver in Florida was arrested after deputies say he refused to transport a group of blind people and their service dogs.
According to news outlets, citing an arrest report, 60-year-old Simon Pierre Andre Nau was picking up Robert Stigile, who's blind, and other blind people in Stigile's group Monday night in Orlando.
Stigile says that when Nau showed up, he said, "I don't take dogs." Stigile explained the dogs were service animals and Nau allegedly replied "I don't care."
Stigile says he was standing in the open door frame and felt the car move forward, striking him.
Orange County Sheriff's deputies arrested Nau on charges of failure to transport a blind person with a service dog and battery.
Deputies say Nau laughed about the incident as if he "didn't fully understand that he had broken the law." It's unclear if Nau has an attorney.
Florida Uber driver arrested after refusing ride to blind man, service dog.
Associated Press
ORLANDO
An Uber driver in Florida was arrested after deputies say he refused to transport a group of blind people and their service dogs.
According to news outlets, citing an arrest report, 60-year-old Simon Pierre Andre Nau was picking up Robert Stigile, who's blind, and other blind people in Stigile's group Monday night in Orlando.
Stigile says that when Nau showed up, he said, "I don't take dogs." Stigile explained the dogs were service animals and Nau allegedly replied "I don't care."
Stigile says he was standing in the open door frame and felt the car move forward, striking him.
Orange County Sheriff's deputies arrested Nau on charges of failure to transport a blind person with a service dog and battery.
Deputies say Nau laughed about the incident as if he "didn't fully understand that he had broken the law." It's unclear if Nau has an attorney.
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I honestly don't really care for dogs. I prefer cats. Dogs are bums. Cats are killers who will bring you their kills. But I have a clean, unused, canvas painting tarp in the trunk now for these situations. So hop onboard little doggy. I personally don't want to be an Uber dbag in a news story.
[QUOTE="I personally don't want to be an Uber dbag in a news story.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmm... Challenge accepted!
Hmmmmm... Challenge accepted!
Yeah whats wrong with just being an uber dbag
Some people only here for the infamy
Some people only here for the infamy
I prefer anonymity. Leave nothing but my footprints. Pack out my trash.Yeah whats wrong with just being an uber dbag
Some people only here for the infamy
is going 'goobers' on supposed pax phone vid now the new 'sex tape'I prefer anonymity. Leave nothing but my footprints. Pack out my trash.
It does seem that way. Everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame. After all, we now give reality shows to people who in the past would have been ran out of town.is going 'goobers' on supposed pax phone vid now the new 'sex tape'
Still miss my Gerry Springer instalmentsIt does seem that way. Everybody wants their 15 minutes of fame. After all, we now give reality shows to people who in the past would have been ran out of town.
Those producers would be creaming themselves with poobers "daily stupid" storylines
Truth stranger than... just can't make this sh&t up man
Gee i love this forum!!
There blind keep driving. My car is small, wouldn't hold two big dogs and passengers comfortably anyway. I would be doing them a favor.
I have allergies, to that point that just about everything on this planet, year round affects my allergies, I also have a dog. I take a Claritan daily, and as needed, usually every two or three months go to my Dr. for a allergy booster shot, then I move on down the road. Pretty simple, unless you can prove that NO OTC or Prescription allergy medication will work for you, you're SOL if you refuse the transport. Perhaps McDonalds is a better choice.And what if a person has allergies to animal hair and can verify from doctor? Should the blind persons disability supercede a person with allergies. After all it is his car. That could also be considered a disability, (maybe a stretch). But people do die from having contact with allergens.
I suggest keeping an old towel that you can lay on the floor or seat, under the dog. Then when the customer and dog is gone, your seats/floor should be mostly clean. You can also invest in a rechargeable portable vacuum destined for quick cleanup in the car. Mine only cost $25 on Amazon. It has a charging base for the house and it stays charged for a few days in between uses. They also have smaller ones that plug into the cigarette lighter.
People who don't want service dogs in their car are just drama queens. They act as if a 20 min ride is going to ruin their car. There are probably passengers a lot more messy and smelly than the dogs. Unless you have medical condition that prevents you from being near a dog then shut your ass up and drive. It's not only the right thing to do but it's the law.
Dog toe nails and leather seats do not mix.People who don't want service dogs in their car are just drama queens. They act as if a 20 min ride is going to ruin their car. There are probably passengers a lot more messy and smelly than the dogs. Unless you have medical condition that prevents you from being near a dog then shut your ass up and drive. It's not only the right thing to do but it's the law.
If the dog is incapable of lying on the floor, then the dog is not properly trained, and under the ADA I can request the owner and animal to leave.
(Watch Uber's training video.)
Horse pucky, I've own leather cars and dogs at the same time, not a problem. UNLESS, you are driving like it's qualifying at Sonoma, then perhaps it might be an issue. Since most service dogs are going to be larger animals, the floor might not be an option. Put a towel on the seat, ask the owner to put the dog on the towel, and move on.Dog toe nails and leather seats do not mix.
If the dog is incapable of lying on the floor, then the dog is not properly trained, and under the ADA I can request the owner and animal to leave.
(Watch Uber's training video.)
My car is a Town Car. Plenty of room on the floor. And no, I do not drive like I am at Laguna Seca or Willow Springs. But I drive in Los Angeles, where at least once a night somebody does something stupid/illegal in front of me and I have to hit the brakes hard. Properly trained service dogs lay on the floor - period. It is safest for the dog and other occupants of the car.Horse pucky, I've own leather cars and dogs at the same time, not a problem. UNLESS, you are driving like it's qualifying at Sonoma, then perhaps it might be an issue. Since most service dogs are going to be larger animals, the floor might not be an option. Put a towel on the seat, ask the owner to put the dog on the towel, and move on.
I recommend every driver print out the ADA rules and get it laminated. Keep it in your car. Ask the two questions. Then verify that the dog has done his business (falls under "Housebroken") and explain that " the dog is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it" means the dog jumps on the seats.
More excuses, I drove a 2001 twin turbo Audi with full leather interior for 10 yrs, regularly drove it like I stole it, had a 30lb spaniel mix that always rode in the back, never once did she do harm to the leather seats or the carpet. Properly trained service dogs are there for the owner, to do what's needed, not to just lay on the floor, while that is preferable, I seriously doubt a 80 lb lab is going to comfortably fit on the floor of your Town Car, regardless of it's training. Is it safest, perhaps, is it practical, no, not always, and what if the pax doesn't want them on the floor? Some service dogs, especially a seizure alert dog, will not want to be on the floor, as they are best at their job being closest to their handler.My car is a Town Car. Plenty of room on the floor. And no, I do not drive like I am at Laguna Seca or Willow Springs. But I drive in Los Angeles, where at least once a night somebody does something stupid/illegal in front of me and I have to hit the brakes hard. Properly trained service dogs lay on the floor - period. It is safest for the dog and other occupants of the car.
I recommend every driver print out the ADA rules and get it laminated. Keep it in your car. Ask the two questions. Then verify that the dog has done his business (falls under "Housebroken") and explain that " the dog is out of control and the handler does not take effective action to control it" means the dog jumps on the seats.
As for "once a night", somehow you think L.A. is special? Denver was recently rated some of the worst drivers in the country, I'd be happy if it only happened to me once a night, last night after 3 hrs I signed off because I was tired of the bone head drivers around me doing incredibly stupid thing. Poor excuse.
This is all about excuses.
First of all, I wasn't bragging about L.A. traffic; just making a point about safety. There is no competition here...More excuses, I drove a 2001 twin turbo Audi with full leather interior for 10 yrs, regularly drove it like I stole it, had a 30lb spaniel mix that always rode in the back, never once did she do harm to the leather seats or the carpet. Properly trained service dogs are there for the owner, to do what's needed, not to just lay on the floor, while that is preferable, I seriously doubt a 80 lb lab is going to comfortably fit on the floor of your Town Car, regardless of it's training. Is it safest, perhaps, is it practical, no, not always, and what if the pax doesn't want them on the floor? Some service dogs, especially a seizure alert dog, will not want to be on the floor, as they are best at their job being closest to their handler.
As for "once a night", somehow you think L.A. is special? Denver was recently rated some of the worst drivers in the country, I'd be happy if it only happened to me once a night, last night after 3 hrs I signed off because I was tired of the bone head drivers around me doing incredibly stupid thing. Poor excuse.
This is all about excuses.
And no excuses. I do not want dogs, or any other animals, in my car.
That said, I will gladly follow ADA rules. But I also know people who claim to have Service Animals for the sake of skirting the rules. That is the main reason I am hard-lined about it. I will gladly follow the rules; but the rider and their service animal have to as well. If they cannot follow the rules (i.e. under control) then the ride ends. No laws broken - No excuses.
I prefer anonymity. Leave nothing but my footprints. Pack out my trash.
Please don't ask us for bail money, we're too broke to helpFirst of all, I wasn't bragging about L.A. traffic; just making a point about safety. There is no competition here...
And no excuses. I do not want dogs, or any other animals, in my car.
That said, I will gladly follow ADA rules. But I also know people who claim to have Service Animals for the sake of skirting the rules. That is the main reason I am hard-lined about it. I will gladly follow the rules; but the rider and their service animal have to as well. If they cannot follow the rules (i.e. under control) then the ride ends. No laws broken - No excuses.
I agree there are people that skirt the rules, I know a few as well, a Sirius Xm radio host was recently bragging about his wife skirting the rules. That said, why bother with the hassle, BTW, I'd much rather have a service animal (or most animals) in my vehicle than most of the drunks, they don't ask endless questions, they don't smell as bad, and they don't argue.
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/9e/8c/0d9e8c57b03f400d2bdad4cb693cdd93.jpg
So. I just started thinking... since this is "ride share" and ostensibly we are private citizens sharing rides, how can we be held to the same standards as real businesses? I'm just wondering, why *couldn't* we refuse rides to anyone? Not that I would have refused a service animal, but a whole bunch of them?
Also, is there something along the lines of an official "license" type of paper that verifies a dog is a bona fide service animal? Not something that you can just get off of the internet, for instance.
Also, is there something along the lines of an official "license" type of paper that verifies a dog is a bona fide service animal? Not something that you can just get off of the internet, for instance.
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