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Uber CEO Says Company Can Do an IPO Without Being Profitable

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#1 ·
Uber Chief Executive Officer Dara Khosrowshahi said he doesn't think his ride-hailing company needs to be profitable before a planned public offering in the second half of 2019.

Khosrowshahi, speaking Monday at the Fortune Brainstorm conference in Aspen, Colorado, said he was more focused on generating positive cash flow than making the company profitable according to generally accepted accounting principles.

The San Francisco-based startup burned through more than $10.7 billionsince it was founded in 2009. The company technically turned a profit in the first quarter of this year thanks to the value on paper of selling its Southeast Asian business. But by another accounting measure that excludes interest, taxes and other expenses, Uber lost $312 million in the quarter.

Uber must also answer lingering questions about its corporate culture.

Khosrowshahi described the target -- often repeated -- of an IPO in the second half of 2019 as "a goal" during the interview. He described the search for a chief financial officer as slower than he would have liked, but he said the company has a couple of candidates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...articles/2018-07-16/tesla-falls-as-musk-fails-to-rein-in-his-open-season-tweets
 
#5 ·
Can't wait when they go public.
Got a little bit of money in the bank which I am going to spend on this german stock.
Wether they will grow up or go belly up I will be happy with any outcome.
 
#6 ·
So,

Even after pulling out of giant money losing markets like:
China
Russia
SouthEast Asia

Even after selling their disastrous money losing rent a car scheme to Fair.com.

Even after changing the % it takes from drivers from 20% to 25% to what is now near 40%.

Even after a 55% increase in total bookings year over year.

The result is that Uber is still losing money and burning cash.
The result is that the CEO who promised profitability within 2 years changes his statement.
This lower increase in bookings means that the parabolic growth curve is flattening.
This will result in even higher rates charged to pax and lower payouts to drivers, because robotcars, rent a bike, and flying cars need to be developed by a taxi company.
 
#8 ·
How hard do you speculate Dara Khosrowshahi laughs when the low skill low wage working poor offer their opinions about high finance billion dollar technology global corporations?

Or does he not even acknowledge the existence of uber drivers.

There's reasons we have been relegated in society to ground transportation.
Reasons 1 & 2: we don't have credibility nor credentials

cre·den·tial
krəˈden(t)SHəl/
noun
plural noun: credentials
  1. a qualification, achievement, personal quality, or aspect of a person's background, typically when used to indicate that they are suitable for something.
    "recruitment is based mainly on academic credentials"
 
#9 ·
Umm, credentials are a doctorate or a license to do something (licensed plumber, series 7 for a license to trade, TTB tobacco importation permit to import tobacco, license to practice dentistry, etc) .
Dara has the same "credentials" that you have. A drivers license. Besides being an officer of a corporation, he has no other "credentials" than you.

Yes, he acknowledges our existance, and pledges to replace us with robot cars.

Some of us do have "credentials". In many markets the black car still requires a CDL (commercial dribers license "credentials"). Other markets require "credentials" (TLC license, NYC) to perform UberX.
Dara, and Uber's legal department and their lobbyists, work tirelessly to prevent "credentials" for being required for you.

"Dara Khosrowshahi laughs".
I am sure he does. The foolish working poor believe he has "credentials".
Instead, 5 million of us are required to work each year to pay his compensation. How a CEO can actually provide the same value to company that 5 million revenue producing contractors can, is a question only the shareholders and Board can answer.
His "credentials" do not make him infallible or above the criticism of those of us "schmucks" that he laughs at.

Dara was handed a public relations disaster that never made the profit it was intended, that was unethical to the core (current Board members and management still included), that is a giant regulatory and legal risk.

He promised to clean it up and hit profitablility by 2018. He failed.
He lied about selling out to Grab.
He has taken forever to replace a crooked legal department and those other unethical senior managers.
He has taken forever to replace executive positions.
He claims that Uber will fight for India (another lie, Uber will flee by 2019).
He claimed Uber would never break the law again after the disaster in London that he let happen. Yet many countries around the world
http://qcostarica.com/traffic-police-intensifies-actions-against-uber/
Yet in many countries, Dara insists that Uber must continue breaking the law. This is Uber after all and dara is no different than Travis except for better PR (and the fact that Travis actually created something, Dara simply gets handed a golden egg and gets asked to wipe the tarnish off.)

This is simple.
Dara has no more "credentials" than you.
You and 5 million other drivers are required to pay his compensation.
Dara continues to break the law in multiple jurisdictions.
Dara has failed to quickly replace failed executives and senior managers that have been ethical failures.
Dara now admits profitability will not happen when he promised it would.
Dara still prevents from Uber truly releasing its books in either GAAP or IFRS standards.
Dara still lies and claims that drivers are doing swimmingly even after the MIT study proved otherwise.
Dara still thinks that Uber should waste its money developing robot cars (to put you out of work and to claim that Uber, a corrupt taxi company, is the entity best placed to bring this technology to market).

Every time Uber lies to you, or cheats you, or steals from you (daily basis), remember tha Dara is now the man in charge of this abhorant behavior towards the unwashed masses without "credentials".
Also remember that Dara has no more "credentials" than you.
 
#10 ·
Dara Khosrowshahi Annual Salary $91 million USD
In THIS country that translates into Mass Credentials whether it means actual or
ability to negotiate
$91 million US Dollars annual

I’ll follow the money.

U continue writing your long diatribe, inwhich me nor anyone will read.
Why?
Because u have zero credentials
 
#11 ·
Dara Khosrowshahi Annual Salary $91 million USD
In THIS country that translates into Mass Credentials whether it means actual or
ability to negotiate
$91 million US Dollars annual

I'll follow the money.

U continue writing your long diatribe, inwhich me nor anyone will read.
Why?
Because u have zero credentials
I apologize.
I was unaware of your lack of ability to read and comprehend what you attempt read.
Salary does not equal "credentials" or does it mean "mass" credentials if the salary is high.
Unlike you and me, if you receive a salary, it means "employee". Nothing more.
A CEO is nothing more than a highly compensated employee.
Dara, who did not create anything, is simply a highly compensated "employee".

Like you and me, he has zero rideshare "credentials".
If you make twice as much as me in the rideshare industry, do you have twice the "credentials"?

Please learn to use a dictionary before you post again.
You will continue to "follow the money" because you fail to understand that money is not "credentials".
Quack Doctor may make more money than the licensed doctor, but licensed doctor has "credentials".

In THIS country, "credentials" must mean something different than where you are from.
 
#16 ·
How hard do you speculate Dara Khosrowshahi laughs when the low skill low wage working poor offer their opinions about high finance billion dollar technology global corporations?
He does not pay enough attention even to laugh. The only opinion that I will offer to him is not to buy any stock in Uber when he offers it---as if he cared. SOMEbody will buy it if I will not.

Dara Khosrowshahi Annual Salary $91 million USD
In THIS country that translates into Mass Credentials whether it means actual I'll follow the money.

This IS America: In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash (or American Express, where accepted).

Or he retires in shame with his bags full of money...
...........and he hangs his head in shame for the whole Uber ride to the bank...............................

Or does he not even acknowledge the existence of uber drivers.
Is lip service the same as actual acknowledgment?
 
#21 ·
Such people have no shame, ever.
If they did, they wouldn't have ascended to the level they have.
Hitler, Napoleon - both would-be world dominators, both shameless.
Nahh..

Hitler ate a bullet when the soviets were knocking at the gate...

A lot of nazis escaped on the rat line, those A-holes had no shame.

Napolean
 
#23 ·
Uber is in the unique position in which its low level workers can interact directly with investors: by having them in their cars.
Then there was the driver who blasted Travis and put his antics online. That video directly contributed to him being removed from his position