Uber and Lyft could destroy car ownership in major cities

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MHR

Discussion Starter · Sep 4, 2017 (Edited by Moderator)

http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-and-lyft-limit-personal-car-use-study-2017-8

Ride-hailing giants have said for years that their services will start to kill car ownership by giving urban dwellers a cheaper and more efficient way of getting around.

A recent study from the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, Texas A&M Transportation Institute, and Columbia University supports that notion.

Uber and Lyft left Austin, Texas in May 2016 after servicing the city since 2014. The ridehailing giants called it quits after voters upheld strict regulations on the companies, like issuing fingerprint-based background checks.

Uber and Lyft returned in May after lawmakers passed a bill overriding the strict regulations.

The departure offered a unique window of opportunity for researchers to investigate how people changed their habits after growing accustomed to ride-hailing services.

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SEAL Team 5

· #2 · Sep 4, 2017

And McDonalds was suppose to kill the restaurant business back in the late 60's early 70's. Just like customers became sick of McDonalds ever declining quality of food pax will get fed up with angry drivers, being cancelled on, paying surge and lack of vehicular freedom.
Just like McDonalds is now only popular with the fat lazy poor American, Uber will soon only appeal to the drunk obnoxious youth.

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tohunt4me

· #3 · Sep 4, 2017

MHR said:
http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-and-lyft-limit-personal-car-use-study-2017-8

How many years have i spoken of this ?

Once AGAIN
PLEASE READ AGENDA 21 AND OBJECTIVES TO ELIMINATE PERSONAL VEHICLE OWNERSHIP GLOBALLY !

This is why Globalists want to control Uber.

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canyon

· #4 · Sep 4, 2017

SEAL Team 5 said:
And McDonalds was suppose to kill the restaurant business back in the late 60's early 70's. Just like customers became sick of McDonalds ever declining quality of food pax will get fed up with angry drivers, being cancelled on, paying surge and Slack of vehicular freedom.
Just like McDonalds is now only popular with the fat lazy poor American, Uber will soon only appeal to the drunk obnoxious youth.

Amen to that.

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heynow321

· #5 · Sep 6, 2017

not in seattle they wont. too many outdoorsy types who need their own rigs and usually something bigger than a prius to get into the mountains, tow their water craft, go camping, take a trip to the coast, etc.

SEAL Team 5 said:
Just like McDonalds is now only popular with the fat lazy poor American, Uber will soon only appeal to the drunk obnoxious youth.

exactly. the brand has already suffered serious damage from their bonehead move of subsidizing rides. all the stuff that made people hate cabs now happens all the time with boober. you get what you pay for. low cost rides = low quality service/drivers. it's very simple....

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tomatopaste

· #6 · Sep 6, 2017

SEAL Team 5 said:
And McDonalds was suppose to kill the restaurant business back in the late 60's early 70's. Just like customers became sick of McDonalds ever declining quality of food pax will get fed up with angry drivers, being cancelled on, paying surge and lack of vehicular freedom.
Just like McDonalds is now only popular with the fat lazy poor American, Uber will soon only appeal to the drunk obnoxious youth.

And computers were supposed to kill the typewriter business. Oh that's right, they did

tohunt4me said:
How many years have i spoken of this ?

Once AGAIN
PLEASE READ AGENDA 21 AND OBJECTIVES TO ELIMINATE PERSONAL VEHICLE OWNERSHIP GLOBALLY !

This is why Globalists want to control Uber.

The House passed the self driving car bill today unanimously. Think about that, even the dems realize either we lead in SDC's or we let the Euros and Japan control the market

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UberProphet?

· #7 · Sep 6, 2017

tomatopaste said:
And computers were supposed to kill the typewriter business. Oh that's right, they did

And computers were going to kill the paper business when all the communications went electronic !

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tohunt4me

· #8 · Sep 6, 2017

tomatopaste said:
And computers were supposed to kill the typewriter business. Oh that's right, they did

The House passed the self driving car bill today unanimously. Think about that, even the dems realize either we lead in SDC's or we let the Euros and Japan control the market

Cursive writing is no longer being taught in schools

Soon

Your great grandchildren will be unable to READ the Declaration if Independence !

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SEAL Team 5

· #9 · Sep 6, 2017

tomatopaste said:
And computers were supposed to kill the typewriter business. Oh that's right, they did

Not really, isn't the keypad on your phone exactly like a typewriter keyboard? However the way most spelling is contained in some of these posts you would think that the keypads are all in a foreign language.

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tohunt4me

· #10 · Sep 6, 2017

UberProphet? said:
And computers were going to kill the paper business when all the communications went electronic !

It hit the post office hard

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SEAL Team 5

· #11 · Sep 6, 2017

tohunt4me said:
Cursive writing is no longer being taught in schools

Soon

Your great grandchildren will be unable to READ the Declaration if Independence !

Soon is already here. Go ask any random high school kid "what is the Preamble?"

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heynow321

· #12 · Sep 6, 2017

SEAL Team 5 said:
Soon is already here. Go ask any random high school kid "what is the Preamble?"

there are tons of HS kids who have "graduated" without being able to read. the future is looking grim....

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Uberfunitis

· #13 · Sep 6, 2017

tohunt4me said:
Cursive writing is no longer being taught in schools

Soon

Your great grandchildren will be unable to READ the Declaration if Independence !

It has been digitalized already.

ShinyAndChrome

· #14 · Sep 7, 2017

And they said netflix and its ilk would kill cable and satellite? Oh, yeah, they are....

I can see for some urban people it would do this. As long as I am able to afford a vehicle I have a hard time thinking I wouldn't, but for those on the cusp I can see it makes sense at times not to bother with a car. If you live in a dicey area and can't afford anything but a crap box anyway, maybe you don't want to deal with it, so you do the bus sometimes and uber others and just forget the whole personal car thing.

I actually wrote my local school board to implore them to stop teaching my kids cursive writing. I received a positive response and, in parallel, they were already toning it back. I consider it a massive, rank waste of time and effort. Evidently most adults agree; we were all taught it and few of us can still do it. We saw no value in keeping that "skill". I can type over 100 WPM. When I write with a pen it looks like a kindergartener's work, and my hand cramps up after about 30 words.

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UberProphet?

· #15 · Sep 7, 2017

ShinyAndChrome said:
I actually wrote my local school board to implore them to stop teaching my kids...

And that is why parent's like me send their kids to private school !

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phillipzx3

· #16 · Sep 7, 2017

tohunt4me said:
Cursive writing is no longer being taught in schools

Soon

Your great grandchildren will be unable to READ the Declaration if Independence !

They'll just use those computers to scan the text and read it to them.

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WaveRunner1

· #17 · Sep 7, 2017

The low prices that many cheap people enjoy (especially garbage Pool passengers) won't last forever. Fares need to triple for Uber to start making reasonable profits or a profit in general. At that point car ownership will not decline as much as some unforward thinking analysts assume.

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itsablackmarket

· #18 · Sep 7, 2017

UberProphet? said:
And computers were going to kill the paper business when all the communications went electronic !

Some things are an evolution of freedom. The internet is one of those things. Uber and Lyft are not.

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tomatopaste

· #19 · Sep 7, 2017

WaveRunner1 said:
The low prices that many cheap people enjoy (especially garbage Pool passengers) won't last forever. Fares need to triple for Uber to start making reasonable profits or a profit in general. At that point car ownership will not decline as much as some unforward thinking analysts assume.

I disagree. If Uber had any intention of raising fares, they already would have raised fares. So what are they waiting for? Answer: self driving cars.

From Forbes:

After about five years of active work, all the non Google watchers realized that faSDVs (fully automated self driving vehicles) were going to be real sooner than they thought
Companies finally understood that the real introduction of faSDVs was going to be in the early 2020s (and maybe even a bit earlier). There would be faSDVs on the streets in five years, not fifty-five years
Taxis: If you have access to faSDVs, you survive and make boatloads of money. And you will use some of this money to lower prices to drive your human driven competition out of business. If you don't have access to faSDVs, you can't compete. You become the dinosaur (extinct)
If you can't produce faSDVs, you go out of business. Really soon. Assuming 2020 is the date for initial volume delivery of faSDVs, any car company without a viable product by 2024 will be dead or walking dead

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...-into-the-self-driving-car-race/#5681fa7e3fe5

Sorry to break it to you, but this is going to happen.

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WaveRunner1

· #20 · Sep 7, 2017

tomatopaste said:
I disagree. If Uber had any intention of raising fares, they already would have raised fares. So what are they waiting for? Answer: self driving cars.

From Forbes:

After about five years of active work, all the non Google watchers realized that faSDVs (fully automated self driving vehicles) were going to be real sooner than they thought

Companies finally understood that the real introduction of faSDVs was going to be in the early 2020s (and maybe even a bit earlier). There would be faSDVs on the streets in five years, not fifty-five years

Taxis: If you have access to faSDVs, you survive and make boatloads of money. And you will use some of this money to lower prices to drive your human driven competition out of business. If you don't have access to faSDVs, you can't compete. You become the dinosaur (extinct)

If you can't produce faSDVs, you go out of business. Really soon. Assuming 2020 is the date for initial volume delivery of faSDVs, any car company without a viable product by 2024 will be dead or walking dead

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...-into-the-self-driving-car-race/#5681fa7e3fe5

Sorry to break it to you, but this is going to happen.

Sorry to break it to you but the reason fares are low is competition. Uber wants to kill Lyft but that looks less likely now. Everyone knows self driving cars are 10 years away. Uber wants to be Walmart but unlike Walmart it doesn't produce a profit. If Uber does not raise fares in coming years or billions in funding it will go bankrupt.

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