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Trip radar and upfront pricing for driver in DC area? Anyone?
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Is that for real or is it photoshopped? Can you provide the link for that screenshot?
If it's for real it's the worst-paying ride I've ever seen. It's less than 20 cents per mile when you factor in the per minute rate.
It's even worse than Detroit in 2016 when Uber cut the per mile rate to 22.5 cents.
The ride includes a $3.50 surge???!!!
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It’s a made up screenshot that’s put into the email. The map shows a ride ending in the Nob Hill neighborhood of SF. The offer card shows a complete different ride ending in SJ from Daly City. It’s a terrible job done by the marketing team because anyone not familiar with the Bay Area would think that’s a legit offer. At current OG base rates that ride to SJ would pay around $53 before surge, quests or bonus zones.
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Surges and Boosts don't exist without rate cards and Radar eliminates rate cards.
Because there's no rate card, Uber simply decides out of whole cloth how much they're willing to pay for a given ride. In this example the total was $15. Uber set a bogus payout of $11.78 and "added" a $3.50 "surge" to bring the total payout to $15.28, but $15.28 was what Uber would have offered anyway. They created a fake surge in an lame attempt to make the payout seem more "generous" than it would have if they had simply offered the $15.28 without a surge.
You make a good point about the surge "potentially" being just part of the original fare, but separated and then presented as a surge. I question if even Uber would be that bold, though. It might be too great a risk to their reputation (and possible legal repercussions), if word got out through a disgruntled engineer or something. However, theoretically it is possible.
Remember when one of the food delivery apps was redistributing customer tips in a similar fashion? If I remember right a class action lawsuit was brought against them and they either lost the suit or went ahead and settled.
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Yeah, the surges in those markets are just to get the drivers to move where uber wants them. There's no other use. I get offers 2-3 per mile, no surge.
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I did not photoshop anything . There is an announcement that Uber is introducing Trip radar and upfront pricing for drivers with trip info in many mayor markets . I just want to know if anyone here in the DC area has received this offers .
Stopped driving when DF glitch was fix . Considering driving if I can control destinations with high surge .
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I can't wait to see how decimating this is going to be the markets.
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Uber has already tactically taken care of the "problem" of bad press and damage to their reputation...they bribe politicians and mass media, so that nothing untoward lives in the zeitgeist. That's how they exist as a fake taxi cab company in the first place. They do whatever they want, and the public folds to them....see Austin, TX
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The food delivery companies have been able to get away with playing musical chairs with the drivers' payouts for years. It was only when the customers discovered that their tips were being stolen to pay the drivers' wages did it get the attention of the govt.
Uber, DD, and GH are STILL stealing tips to pay the drivers on many orders.
I think it was Atlantic magazine (or Forbes maybe?) that conducted a test using several deliveries and they stated that there was a consistent pattern of larger tips = smaller payouts by the companies. In other words the companies are stealing the tips to pay the drivers.
The only sure way to put a stop to the practice is to not allow customers to tip in advance. Allowing customers to tip in advance enables the companies to use the tips to pay the drivers' wages.
Once upfront pricing comes to your area, you can kiss your regular rates goodbye and start losing money on each trip.
It means your market has gotten saturated would that now they're doing the useless destination location in incoming ping and they're gonna take more of your dough too. Prepare to see far away rides paying only $24 or $19 to go far away as a ****. Uber is paying $24 before wear and tear and gas expenses to go pretty much any far away distance.
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Bruh, my translation filter isn't working.
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Thank you for your response but I won’t see anything because I don’t drive as long as is not profitable . Was doing OK on weekend night DF but they tap that . I always keep open to drive if I can make it work . Do not NEED to drive now . I will drive only if they SHOW ME THE MONEY
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If UBER "needs" 6 drivers to service an area and they see that they have 12, then Trip Radar is activated.
Instead of pings being served individually, they are all grouped together in one bundle and sent to every driver simultaneously. Those trips start being offered at 50% pay. If any ride isnt accepted at all it goes up to 60% pay, then 70%, etc. etc.
But the desperate and/or stupid take the rides long before they could go to 100% or over.
The percentages are being tested. They will change over time. They will change by market. They will he different for different drivers. The overall outcome WILL BE that UBER pays drivers less while charging pax more.
Instead of pings being served individually, they are all grouped together in one bundle and sent to every driver simultaneously. Those trips start being offered at 50% pay. If any ride isnt accepted at all it goes up to 60% pay, then 70%, etc. etc.
But the desperate and/or stupid take the rides long before they could go to 100% or over.
The percentages are being tested. They will change over time. They will change by market. They will he different for different drivers. The overall outcome WILL BE that UBER pays drivers less while charging pax more.
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They've been doing it all along but the drivers didn't realize it.
Doing food delivery has made it obvious to me that Uber and the other gig companies send multiple pings to multiple drivers simultaneously when the volume of orders available allows them to.
The orders could be lying dormant in the app for several minutes "waiting" to activate when certain conditions are met or the mothership sends them a signal to activate.
This would explain how I've received multiple pings in high-rise apartment buildings when my data's been out. The orders had to be in my phone already, otherwise there'd be no way to get the pings.
It would also explain how drivers can get many many non-stop rapid-fire pings one after the other. Doordash is legendary for doing this. I've had them come so fast and furious that there was no way to log out of the app. Even if the phone was shut off the non-stop order requests still got sent to my account. Obviously DD was sending the requests in very large bunches. And unsurprisingly the orders that get sent in rapid-fire fashion are all trash.
I know many times at big events when I'd be switching between UberEats and UberX I'd be in one mode and would be getting pings so fast I couldn't do it.
Same for trying to logoff. It would send so many so fast I couldn't. I'd try letting it go "3 and out" but occasionally it'd take 5 or 6 to log me out
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That's right.
Sending large bunches of orders to multiple drivers simultaneously and storing them in the app gives the companies the flexibility they need to adjust quickly to sudden changes.
As you know I've been accused of wearing tin foil hats on several occasions because I've long believed that various events that occur many many times are not coincidences, especially when they involve using cunning methods to dump trash delivery orders on unsuspecting and distracted drivers.
Another Uber Driver used to say that the gig companies are always burning the midnight oil in search of new and better ways to screw the drivers. An important part of that strategy is to find new and better ways to dump as many trash orders on unsuspecting and distracted drivers as possible. Storing bunches of trash orders in drivers' phones does the trick nicely.
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