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So, while we don't know exactly what the riders are paying, unless we ask, Lyft is screwing us all. Out of the people I have asked, Lyft is taking 55-75% of each fare.

I started tracking "actual" versus "rate card" (which are still bs rates). Took out the bonus/surge rate and tips from the total paid for each ride, because you can't get an accurate figure with those in there.

Out of 83 rides so far Lyft has shorted me $42. This includes what I made above the rate card rates. While not a huge amount averaged per ride, you know they are doing this to every driver, which amounts to a lot over the course of a day.

Started looking for a W2 job. I can't keep going giving 15 rides/day, making $150/day and spending $40 of that on gas. While Lyft is charging riders 3-4 times what we are receiving.
 

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Rate cards have been eliminated with UFF... so what are you comparing it to? A historical rate card that doesn't exist anymore?
Actually the rate cards do still exist. They still use them in some instances. I've had several rides in the last 2 weeks that it has been used. And the one that I am referencing is the last one that is available for the Atlanta market, where I am located.
 

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Got up to 91 rides tracked today. I am up to $61 that Lyft has shorted me over what the rate card says I should have been paid. Knowing they are doing this to every driver, that's a lot of money that they are stealing from us. Asked all my riders today how much they were charged, and Lyft kept over 60% total of the 8 rides. Far cry from the days when WE kept 80% of each fare.
 

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Not at all. They are shady af. Come a long way since the 2013 when we actually made money and they didn't screw us at every corner.
However, to speak to your comment directly, they actually advertise that you should not see any change in your income. Which in and of itself is a load of bs, I don't remotely trust either platform. As long as we continue driving and don't raise a national fuss, they will continue screwing us.
 

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In addition to setting the pay rates the govt needs to CAP the percentage of the gross revenue of each ride Uber and Lyft can grab. That's the only way to put a stop to this money-grabbing.
Until drivers start demanding change, it's never going to happen. In years past we tried to organize in Atlanta to protest, which happened with little success, because there were those that capitalized on the protest and continued driving hoping for surge. Unless and until we could get at least 80% of drivers to join in the fight, nothing is going to happen. It would need to be a centralized effort of everyone involved. Drivers don't go to their state and federal legislators to complain enough either.

I have been driving on and off for almost 9 years. Started back full time a few months ago, hoping I could make the money I was a few years ago. It's definitely not like it was. As soon as I find a full time position, I'm done. This upfront fare BS has changed the game for the worse.
 

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You're never going to get enough drivers to disrupt the company. The good news is you don't need a lot of drivers to strike. All you need is to get the attention of the media and the politicians.

A small strike in 2019 in CA was a catalyst for AB5.
Yea, Georgia is a RED state. They are all for corporations, not as liberal as California. I'm drafting a letter to send to the Georgia legislature, the State and Federal Department of Labor, and the news media. Not that it will do any good, but at least I'm attempting to do something. A lot more than I can say for probably the majority of drivers. It's just sad that any change for the good will benefit those that could care less to enact for change.
 
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