[NothingLeftToLose]

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-supreme-court-upholds-sky-harbor-rideshare-fee

 

[backstreets-trans]

Well at least this shows that big corporations can't write their own laws and buy off all politicians to get everything they want. Hopefully in these crazy times, both Uber and the airport can finally come to the table and work out a compromise that'll be beneficial to both parties. This should of been resolved long before all of this had to happen.

 

[BillyBob444]

Well at least this shows that big corporations can't write their own laws and buy off all politicians to get everything they want. Hopefully in these crazy times, both Uber and the airport can finally come to the table and work out a compromise that'll be beneficial to both parties. This should of been resolved long before all of this had to happen.

AZ legislators already stated that will pass a bill prohibiting the raising of the tax.

 

[68350]

.....Hopefully in these crazy times, both Uber and the airport can finally come to the table and work out a compromise that'll be beneficial to both parties....

Why does PHX have to do anything? New fees are already approved, the city just put implementation on hold pending the court's ruling.

 

[Dakidd]

Well at least this shows that big corporations can't write their own laws and buy off all politicians to get everything they want. Hopefully in these crazy times, both Uber and the airport can finally come to the table and work out a compromise that'll be beneficial to both parties. This should of been resolved long before all of this had to happen.

The compromise is gonna be either pay the fees or not service the airport

 

[TakeFive]

The compromise is gonna be either pay the fees or not service the airport

Any compromise works for me so that would work! -o:

 

[Demon]

AZ legislators already stated that will pass a bill prohibiting the raising of the tax.

It's not a tax.

 

[backstreets-trans]

The compromise is gonna be either pay the fees or not service the airport

Why does PHX have to do anything? New fees are already approved, the city just put implementation on hold pending the court's ruling.

From the statement from the airport they know some difficult times lay ahead. It's in everyone best interest to solve these issues and get back to business. Uber has hedged it's bets by having state representatives introduce laws to side step these fees. All these legal battles are better served by having a compromise. The biggest issue is probably the drop off fee because they'd have to reprogram the app. That along with tripling the fees.

The City of Phoenix released the following statement on the supreme court's decision:

"Amidst the global pandemic of COVID-19, this is a seemingly small victory. However, it is proof positive that cities have equal weight in the eyes of law when making decisions impacting our shared future. This ruling will allow all companies that do business at the airport to equally participate in its financial recovery from COVID-19."

This statement reads like a peace offering to uber/lyft to reach an agreement. Uber/lyft aren't in any position now to threaten to leave and the airport will need all the revenue they can get.

 

[Demon]

From the statement from the airport they know some difficult times lay ahead. It's in everyone best interest to solve these issues and get back to business. Uber has hedged it's bets by having state representatives introduce laws to side step these fees. All these legal battles are better served by having a compromise. The biggest issue is probably the drop off fee because they'd have to reprogram the app. That along with tripling the fees.

The City of Phoenix released the following statement on the supreme court's decision:

"Amidst the global pandemic of COVID-19, this is a seemingly small victory. However, it is proof positive that cities have equal weight in the eyes of law when making decisions impacting our shared future. This ruling will allow all companies that do business at the airport to equally participate in its financial recovery from COVID-19."

This statement reads like a peace offering to uber/lyft to reach an agreement. Uber/lyft aren't in any position now to threaten to leave and the airport will need all the revenue they can get.

To be fair Uber & Lyft will need all the revenue they can get too.

 

[TakeFive]

It's not a tax.

lol, I don't care what you call it, it's going to cost more for everybody to use rideshare to/from the airport.

I've yet to see what legal reasoning the court used in determining their decision.

Uber has hedged it's bets by having state representatives introduce laws to side step these fees. All these legal battles are better served by having a compromise.

Definitely agree with that.

To be fair Uber & Lyft will need all the revenue they can get too.

Exactly!

 

[Demon]

lol, I don't care what you call it, it's going to cost more for everybody to use rideshare to/from the airport.

I've yet to see what legal reasoning the court used in determining their decision.

Definitely agree with that.


Exactly!

If you don't care what people call it you wouldn't have called it a tax. It will only cost more if Uber & Lyft pass on that cost to the customer. Will they? Probably. But they don't have to.

It's the same as rent. The airport gets to choose how much it charges for people/businesses to use the airport. If an entity thinks the price is too high, do business elsewhere.

 

[68350]

It would be in the airport's best interest to continue to delay the changes for now. Will be interesting to see their next step.

They issued a well-thought-out statement, but I didn't see compromise behind the words.

 

[Demon]

It would be in the airport's best interest to continue to delay the changes for now. Will be interesting to see their next step.

They issued a well-thought-out statement, but I didn't see compromise behind the words.

With the court case the airport doesn't have to compromise.

 

[68350]

With the court case the airport doesn't have to compromise.

Yes I've already stated that. Someone else mentioned compromising though.

 

[Dakidd]

It would be in the airport's best interest to continue to delay the changes for now. Will be interesting to see their next step.

They issued a well-thought-out statement, but I didn't see compromise behind the words.

If you read the statement carefully you would see where they said now more than ever they should start paying the fees to stabilize the financial situation at the airport

 

[taxisuper]

If you read the statement carefully you would see where they said now more than ever they should start paying the fees to stabilize the financial situation at the airport

Do you really think that the imposition of these petty U/L fees is going to do anything to stabilize the airport authority? Air traffic by the Mayor's own statement is down 85%. Gate fees and rent from shuttered retail establishments in the airport dwarf anything you'll get from ground transportation levies. It's a disaster that won't be cured absent state help. Come to reality.

 

[TakeFive]

If you read the statement carefully you would see where they said now more than ever they should start paying the fees to stabilize the financial situation at the airport.

Yeah, that's the way I read it also so I'm not optimistic.

After Sky Harbor's additional $1 billion in debt from November, I think their total debt is ~$2.5 billion which isn't bad, really. DIA raised $2.5 billion couple of years ago for improvements and I believe their total debt is closer to $5 billion. Their high bond ratings were recently reaffirmed largely due to their having 500 days of cash reserves. I don't know what kind of reserves Sky Harbor has?

 

[Demon]

Do you really think that the imposition of these petty U/L fees is going to do anything to stabilize the airport authority? Air traffic by the Mayor's own statement is down 85%. Gate fees and rent from shuttered retail establishments in the airport dwarf anything you'll get from ground transportation levies. It's a disaster that won't be cured absent state help. Come to reality.

Yes. The airport is losing money because fewer people are parking at the airport. This will start to make up for that.

 

[Dakidd]

Do you really think that the imposition of these petty U/L fees is going to do anything to stabilize the airport authority? Air traffic by the Mayor's own statement is down 85%. Gate fees and rent from shuttered retail establishments in the airport dwarf anything you'll get from ground transportation levies. It's a disaster that won't be cured absent state help. Come to reality.

And your point ?

 

[TakeFive]

If you don't care what people call it you wouldn't have called it a tax.

Not sure who you're confusing me with as I didn't call it anything. Neither did I guess what the court decision would be; that's a fool's game.

Yes. The airport is losing money because fewer people are parking at the airport. This will start to make up for that.

Are you a paid ambassador for Sky Harbor; if not you should apply.