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Uber is clearly pushing me out. 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes of surge. Doesn’t matter. I’m getting nothing. Pass on even one request? Forget it. You get nothing, despite the fact that you can see other drivers available right next to you, so Uber’s claim that you’re hurting the reliability of the service is very obviously BS.

The only request I’ve received today was for a minimal surge that wasn’t reflective of the actual surge so naturally I gave it a pass.

This is the most aggressive application of timing drivers out I’ve seen yet.
 

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Uber is clearly pushing me out. 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes of surge. Doesn't matter. I'm getting nothing. Pass on even one request? Forget it. You get nothing, despite the fact that you can see other drivers available right next to you, so Uber's claim that you're hurting the reliability of the service is very obviously BS.

The only request I've received today was for a minimal surge that wasn't reflective of the actual surge so naturally I gave it a pass.

This is the most aggressive application of timing drivers out I've seen yet.
No pax are way better at it than drivers now ... drivers have a 90+% turnover rate .. pax have 0%
 

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Uber has enough drivers right now, that is why they can get away with put drivers on hidden time outs, even though they have agreed in principle in a law suit not to do this type of stuff anymore. How do you think those ants are doing 100 rides in 4 and 3 days? Uber is helping them by giving them all the ride requests.

The good news is, down the road, uber will be sued for this type of behavior, and they will pay Millions out, most of it going to the lawyers, but we will get a check for $1.33... but uber will be public and their stock will nose dive that day.
 

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Uber has enough drivers right now, that is why they can get away with put drivers on hidden time outs, even though they have agreed in principle in a law suit not to do this type of stuff anymore. How do you think those ants are doing 100 rides in 4 and 3 days? Uber is helping them by giving them all the ride requests.

The good news is, down the road, uber will be sued for this type of behavior, and they will pay Millions out, most of it going to the lawyers, but we will get a check for $1.33... but uber will be public and their stock will nose dive that day.
I know.

And I'll be ready.

You only get a small settlement if you join a class action instead of suing independently.

No pax are way better at it than drivers now ... drivers have a 90+% turnover rate .. pax have 0%
Been doing this off and on since 2014. I'm well aware.

Y'all should be hitting the law library. The only money in the job is a lawsuit.
 

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GF and I both anted today in LA. She managed to rack up 29 rides while I received 12 for the same driving period (she grossed double what I did). Both of us accepted just about every ping except for pool unless it was surging.

I received what appeared to be time outs for about 20 minutes when I missed a ping (happened twice during the day).

Her rating is lower than mine 4.96 vs 4.87 but she has about 1000 more rides than me on the platform (1700 vs 2700).

Some drivers are being favored over others, no doubts in my mind there.
 

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GF and I both anted today in LA. She managed to rack up 29 rides while I received 12 for the same driving period (she grossed double what I did). Both of us accepted just about every ping except for pool unless it was surging.

I received what appeared to be time outs for about 20 minutes when I missed a ping (happened twice during the day).

Her rating is lower than mine 4.96 vs 4.87 but she has about 1000 more rides than me on the platform (1700 vs 2700).

Some drivers are being favored over others, no doubts in my mind there.
Yeah it changes so sporadically. That's the problem right there she made 2x and you both claim to have done the exact same driving strategies. This is what Uber and Lyft are doing to discourage all OG drivers from continuing full time.
 

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Yeah it changes so sporadically. That's the problem right there she made 2x and you both claim to have done the exact same driving strategies. This is what Uber and Lyft are doing to discourage all OG drivers from continuing full time.
Out of curiosity what are your acceptance rates cancel rates and what kind of cars. We're all trying to figure this out. Also do you guys notice a preference for long trips.
 

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I was wondering why I'm not getting pings roo. I decline some stupid ping then all sudden cant get anything in middle of high surge.
They're clearly trying to force everyone to accept the lowest paying fares possible because Uber's margins are much better with the low fares.

Out of curiosity what are your acceptance rates cancel rates and what kind of cars. We're all trying to figure this out. Also do you guys notice a preference for long trips.
It has nothing to do with acceptance rates. They're trying to force everyone to take the lowest fares because their margins are better with those.
 

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Out of curiosity what are your acceptance rates cancel rates and what kind of cars. We're all trying to figure this out. Also do you guys notice a preference for long trips.
Accept rates are about the same. She drives a small vehicle and I drive a mid-size.

Neither of us received a single long-trip request.

Thank God we only do this part time and only drive weekends.
 

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GF and I both anted today in LA. She managed to rack up 29 rides while I received 12 for the same driving period (she grossed double what I did). Both of us accepted just about every ping except for pool unless it was surging.

I received what appeared to be time outs for about 20 minutes when I missed a ping (happened twice during the day).

Her rating is lower than mine 4.96 vs 4.87 but she has about 1000 more rides than me on the platform (1700 vs 2700).

Some drivers are being favored over others, no doubts in my mind there.
Uber sends rides to drivers who have just logged on. So if in hold. Log off, close and re-launch ap. Log back on.. Get rides.. If that dont work restart your phone. Rides come
 

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I noticed this same "timeout" phenomena in OC this past weekend too.

Fri night, some surge hit, I went online and of course got a base ride ping while I'm sitting in the middle of a 2x+ so I decline and then sit there without getting another ping as the surge continues to rise and then falls back down over the next 10 min. This happened multiple times that night which was very out of the ordinary for the area I was working. It happened way to many times for it to just be "bad luck". Then I saw this thread and saw this same oddity was happening to other people.

So I did some more testing on Sat night. Same thing happened. Whenever I declined a ping, I didn't get another ping for at least 5 min. Then I tried a new strategy. I started accepting the shitty pings and immediately cancelling them. This seemed to work better as most of the time, I'd get another ping in the same surge.
 

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Yup. I think they sent me to the corner to sit in a chair and face the wall. Wouldn't take base pings from here. It's been over 15 minutes since anything. View attachment 313726
That happened to me in the exact same area. 20 minutes of no pings in a 2x surge.
Either:

1) The surge was fake.
2) Pax were waiting out the surge
3) I was on secret timeout.
 

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That happened to me in the exact same area. 20 minutes of no pings in a 2x surge.
Either:

1) The surge was fake.
2) Pax were waiting out the surge
3) I was on secret timeout.
#2 sounds like the winner, but drivers are so eager to kick-start the conspiracy theories. It's entertaining, at least.
 

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#2 sounds like the winner, but drivers are so eager to kick-start the conspiracy theories. It's entertaining, at least.
If so, you would have been pinged at base after it died out. I can't verify, since every time surge dropped below 2.0 I switched it back to XL only. Normally I'd get pinged (either at base or with surge) and wasn't. Maybe the folks taking X and poo can report in. Yesterday seemed to be a bit better though. Uber threw me a bone (maybe they realized IDGAF if I don't take any rides for a few days).
 

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That happened to me in the exact same area. 20 minutes of no pings in a 2x surge.
Either:

1) The surge was fake.
2) Pax were waiting out the surge
3) I was on secret timeout.
None of the above. Well, they are timing you out if you refuse the lowest fares they send you. But what's really happening is that their margins are much better if they send vets crap fares and give the high surges to rookies because it leverages better against their guarantees and new driver bonuses.

#2 sounds like the winner, but drivers are so eager to kick-start the conspiracy theories. It's entertaining, at least.
Definitely not #2.

It's happening everywhere at all times and that's not indicative of PAX waiting out surges.
 
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