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One thing I will give these fools credit for, they're persistent! They're pathological liars, everyone knows it, but they stick with it. I guess if you're a sociopath you don't notice, but I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror every morning knowing everything I earn, everything I say publicly, basically everything I am, is just part of one big scam. I guess money really is that important to some people.

This Mohrer clown, as well as Travis K. are both young enough to have their parents living. I would be so ashamed if my parents knew that I was a conman out to deceive everyone dumb enough to fall for it. Regardless of how much money I may have earned.

I still say they'll produce one, if not more of those $90,766+ earners in NYC. That's the next grandiose move in their web of deceit.
 
#4 ·
DriverJ said:
One thing I will give these fools credit for, they're persistent! They're pathological liars, everyone knows it, but they stick with it. I guess if you're a sociopath you don't notice, but I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror every morning knowing everything I earn, everything I say publicly is just part of one big scam. I guess money really is that important to some people.

I still say they'll produce one, if not more of those $90,766+ earners in NYC. That's the next grandiose move in their web of deceit.
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They should be able to trot out any number of full time Black or SUV drivers in NYC who GROSS that. Their fares are much higher than the rest of the country, and needed.
 
#6 ·
Goober said:
Interesting blog post...I wonder if the fact that a majority of part time drivers are only working extremely busy times skews the data
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They could also do some fancy math and say, HEY, look at this UberX driver here who made 3X surge. IF he did that for a full year, 90K. No problemO. But our driver base just drives part time so few do it. There are all kinds of ways to lie past the obvious.
 
#7 ·
The difference is the way the calculate the hours. Look at your statements and you'll notice.
The hours online means (to uber) from ping acceptance to end trip. And obviously they take the gross fares which is way more than profits or even net revenue. But they use the wording "drivers make $ xx" which technically is correct english since its not a financial term.
 
#8 ·
like they claim the only reason for more riders, more work, and shorter pick up times is the lower rates.. what about the fact that after 3 years more people know what uber is and got the application. it's not as if in the first year launched everyone in entire city stated using it.
 
#9 ·
DriverJ said:
One thing I will give these fools credit for, they're persistent! They're pathological liars, everyone knows it, but they stick with it. I guess if you're a sociopath you don't notice, but I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror every morning knowing everything I earn, everything I say publicly, basically everything I am, is just part of one big scam. I guess money really is that important to some people.

This Mohrer clown, as well as Travis K. are both young enough to have their parents living. I would be so ashamed if my parents knew that I was a conman out to deceive everyone dumb enough to fall for it. Regardless of how much money I may have earned.

I still say they'll produce one, if not more of those $90,766+ earners in NYC. That's the next grandiose move in their web of deceit.
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Yes they will find someone who's account will show them earning way over that, maybe even 6 figures.

The reality is there are many driver's accounts that are shared amongst 2-4 drivers on the one car. Uber wouldn't try to persue this fraud as it works against their goals.

It would be easy to track the logged on hours and activity level of the highest grossing accounts - But NO WAY will Uber release that info, as it would show them up as facilitating very unsafe working hours.
 
#10 ·
@chi1cabby
Per the NYC Taxi Cab Fact Book:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/2014_taxicab_fact_book.pdf

The average 2013 Taxi Trip Distance is 2.6 miles. and 99% of trips are under 12 miles. The average fare was $13.40. (Plus an average credit card gratuity of 18%!!!)

Given that much of the X business in NYC is cannibalized taxicab business, or mostly similar in nature rides, I don't see how average fares in 2013 were $34.65 on X.

I know NYC does get a lot of Surge, but it ain't that much.

There are no shortage of Black Car and SUV drivers in NYC who accept the lower X/XL rides.
In my last 4 rides in NYC, all requesting Uber X, I was picked up by 2 cars I would expect on X, one SUV Suburban, and one Black Car.
My average fare was approximately $13.50.

I take a guess and say, since drivers on Black and SUV take the lower requests, they quality as X/XL partners and their full assortment of rides is included in these totals.

Certainly something does not add up here! Selective vocabulary and math for sure.
 
#14 ·
Sydney Uber said:
Yes they will find someone who's account will show them earning way over that, maybe even 6 figures.

The reality is there are many driver's accounts that are shared amongst 2-4 drivers on the one car. Uber wouldn't try to persue this fraud as it works against their goals.

It would be easy to track the logged on hours and activity level of the highest grossing accounts - But NO WAY will Uber release that info, as it would show them up as facilitating very unsafe working hours.
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Talking about unsafe working hours, during the most recent TLC hearings, regarding the issue of the TLC going back to one driver per base "which was the case before Uber and Lyft came to town" which would put a damper on Uber and Lyft as they would lose tons of drivers "most uber drivers right now work with two bases, which has hurt the Uber drivers that are registered with Uber", Uber of course is crying to the courts that it would hurt the drivers "Uber is what he meant to say", and the TLC is also thinking of wanting Uber to disclose each drivers trips log and time on the clock.
 
#15 ·
cybertec69 said:
Talking about unsafe working hours, during the most recent TLC hearings, regarding the issue of the TLC going back to one driver per base "which was the case before Uber and Lyft came to town" which would put a damper on Uber and Lyft as they would lose tons of drivers "most uber drivers right now work with two bases, which has hurt the Uber drivers that are registered with Uber", Uber of course is crying to the courts that it would hurt the drivers "Uber is what he meant to say", and the TLC is also thinking of wanting Uber to disclose each drivers trips log and time on the clock.
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Interesting step back in an attempt to control Uber.

Enforcing operating restrictions on businesses or Sub-Contractors at a industry level is costly and rarely helps the consumer.

Here its well and truly accepted that no one source of pre-booked Limo work is big enough to satisfy a driver's financial goals.

I'm actually starting my first shift today with and old-school Limo Co-operative that had a rare position become available due to 2 unexpected retirements.

I'm starting with a 530am job and have work pretty well mapped out for the rest of the day because of my spot on the roster.

On any days the Base allows us to do work for other companies or our own, we give a another driver an opportunity, but go to the end of the roster.

The only restriction should be total driving hours either measured simply by an App, or as in the case of my two passenger Vans a driver has to log on and off a tachograph that records driving time and driver behaviour.

If safe driving hours were implemented industry wide then operations would need to evolve to compress a driver's working day and allow them a life away from the wheel
 
#16 ·
even if someone made 90k in nyc, that still isn't much by NYC standards. using how much one person made in a different and not even as an uberX, but black is lol. I guess those politicians they bought do work their magic for their PR.
 
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