[Baby Cakes]

My best friend's sister works in New York and makes over $150k a year. Her boyfriend makes about 80k.
They both live in Jersey. She was putting me and her brother down all day for being cheap.
She has almost no savings because she loves fine dining, clothing, shoes, etc.
At the restaurant, I asked the table if tips to the waitresses should be pre tax. She said, no it should always be at least 25% of the POST tax total. She used to be a waitresses.
I disagreed, but still gave the waitresses a 25% of post tax total tip because she was getting on my case about being cheap.
I asked her how much she tipped her uber drivers. She said she's never tipped them even though she uses it a lot and all tupes of Uber. I told her that many of them make less than minimum wage after expenses.
She rolled her eyes like I was making it up and she said that you're not supposed to tip your uber driver just like you're not supposed to tip your mail man. BTW, she gave the taxi driver a big tip on the way back from the bar that night.
Even if you are getting tips sometimes, expect that to become rarer and rarer and then go away completely.

The reason for no tipping is purely to protect the driver from robbery.

 

[Baby Cakes]

Explain this to me please. I fail to see how being able to add a tip on the app would contribute to robbery.

Oh and are you new? Because that's the ONLY way you would think for a second uber does ANYTHING in the interest of its "partners".

I see you ARE new! What a surprise!

I am new here, I have been driving rideshare since august 2013. CASH TIPS are what is discouraged from Uber. CASH TIPS are what might lead to robbery. The original post which I responded to was clearly referring to cash tips. Taxis deal mainly in cash and they are the 2nd most dangerous job as a result. I work for Lyft as well and I love getting tips through the app. 'I fail to see how being able to add a tip on the app would contribute to robbery.' Me too Fuzzyelvis. Thats not I was referring to. Uber could have tips in their app tomorrow if they want to, but I think their kinda scared to admit to all their passengers that tip was never included, which was a massive lie they spread a while back.

 

[Baby Cakes]

If a pax said that, I would tell them I am willing to take that chance aND put my hand out.

Thats what I tell my pax, 'Uber wants there to be no tips to prevent robbery but I'm losing more money to not getting tips than I would to being robbed'

 

[Baby Cakes]

If Uber wanted to prevent robbery due to cash tips they would put tipping IN the app to make cash unnecessary for those riders (and they know there are going to be some) who will tip NO MATTER WHAT Uber tells them. By not adding tipping to the app you could argue they are making robbery more likely, not less, as they are making it necessary for a rider who wants to tip as well as the driver, to carry cash.

Uber doesn't like tipping. It has NOTHING to do with their concerns about robbery. They don't care.

Another reason I'd say

If Uber wanted to prevent robbery due to cash tips they would put tipping IN the app to make cash unnecessary for those riders (and they know there are going to be some) who will tip NO MATTER WHAT Uber tells them. By not adding tipping to the app you could argue they are making robbery more likely, not less, as they are making it necessary for a rider who wants to tip as well as the driver, to carry cash.

Uber doesn't like tipping. It has NOTHING to do with their concerns about robbery. They don't care.

The concern for robbery goes both ways too. Being able to call it cashless is for the pax as well. I believe the biggest reason that tips are a no no from Uber is that they have lied to market uber by saying that tip was included in fare

 

[Baby Cakes]

Please! It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. The reason Uber does this is because it is an integral part of their marketing scheme. Uber advertises itself as "cashless" and "seamless." Those are the reasons... not anything to do with drivers getting robbed for having cash.

I agree that is has nothing to do with security in terms of motives. What do you have to say about taxi vs Uber that Taxis get robbed for more often even though we are doing the same job