[UberLaLa]

Click what you think it might be, or add an 'Other' down below.

Personally, I think it was a good idea out of the gate for Uber, but it is a necessary evil to them now.

 

[Cableguynoe]

I've always been confused by comments about Uber hating surge and wanting to do away with it.

Didn't they create it?
Doesn't it benefit them more than anyone else?

And as far as I can tell there's nothing that stops them from just flipping a switch and there not being surge ever again.

 

[delornick94]

Helps me get more money. As long as they don't get rid of it I'm a happy camper and so is everyone else.

 

[UberLaLa]

I've always been confused by comments about Uber hating surge and wanting to do away with it.

Didn't they create it?
Doesn't it benefit them more than anyone else?

And as far as I can tell there's nothing that stops them from just flipping a switch and there not being surge ever again.

Travis 'hated' Surge...

In 2014 he defended it: https://venturebeat.com/2014/01/08/uber-ceo-firm-on-surge-pricing-regardless-of-the-consequences/

Again in 2015: https://www.cnet.com/news/detest-ubers-surge-pricing-some-drivers-dont-like-it-either/

https://www.bustle.com/p/kendall-je...-met-gala-so-lets-stop-saying-she-did-9017426

I had read on here that 'Travis hated Surge' and I think I might have read an article since these linked above, but can not find it again, so for now, I stand corrected.

 

[OCJarvis]

Travis hated anybody turning a profit period!!!

It's much easier to make money when people hand it to you..

Travis 'hated' Surge...

 

[IERide]

Simple supply and demand and a way to get more drivers to a certain location.. Uber hates it because they understand that Pax want cheap rides so they are damn'd if they do and dam'd if they dont..

 

[LoveBC]

I pose this question out to the universe. What if uber wanted to shut down the airport shenanigans once and for all and just turned off surge forever inside the geofence. Wouldn’t this benefit the select and higher cars?

 

[somedriverguy]

I pose this question out to the universe. What if uber wanted to shut down the airport shenanigans once and for all and just turned off surge forever inside the geofence. Wouldn't this benefit the select and higher cars?

They tried that once, Lyft ended up running at 150PT for a week solid and UBER's ride count dropped to less than half it's normal rate so they put it back up.

 

[Plain Wrap]

Surge is used by Uber for Social Engineering. It is a way to distribute drivers to meet future demand. Uber makes sure just enough drivers catch the surge that it is still perceived as "Real."

 

[LoveBC]

They tried that once, Lyft ended up running at 150PT for a week solid and UBER's ride count dropped to less than half it's normal rate so they put it back up.

What if little sister complied and both turds in the punch bowl stayed at base.

Or even better. LAX gets sick of the bullshit and dictates the rates to uber/lyft. Lock the price or get the boot.

 

[UberLaLa]

What if little sister complied and both turds in the punch bowl stayed at base.

Or even better. LAX gets sick of the bullshit and dictates the rates to uber/lyft. Lock the price or get the boot.

This would require 'price fixing' - which is a bit against things in a capitalist society, but if LAX requested the powers that be to step in, and those powers did, then X prices would increase substantially, and I agree it would help matters across the board.

 

[hulksmash]

I pose this question out to the universe. What if uber wanted to shut down the airport shenanigans once and for all and just turned off surge forever inside the geofence. Wouldn't this benefit the select and higher cars?

No cause smart pax will order Select for the same price as a 2.5 surge ride in a Prius. If the cheaper option always stays cheap it won't happen. If there are enough willing ants to drive for base 24/7 even on Thanksgiving, higher level tiers are fawked.

I think Uber's endgame is for them to provide a base fare ride to anyone that wants one at anytime they want it, especially when dealing with younger price sensitive crowds. At Coachella surge was turned off for pax except fwhile Uber paid 2.5 boost to drivers. The pax leaving at the end of the show paid the same as the pax who left early to beat the crowds (and possible surge)

Restaurants charge the same prices whether demand is high or low. They don't increase rates so that people willing to pay more get served quicker. They don't want to lose customers, so they want to provide the same service and prices to everyone, even if it means making them wait longer, since most customers would rather wait than overpay for food. Customers would be pissed if they kept getting jumped in line by people able to pay for the privilege. Employees are paid the same rate whether busy or slow, and they will be offered more hours rather than a higher hourly rate, except for a 1.5 increase for overtime hours.

In other words, Uber wants to treat their customers and workforce the same way a regular business does.

 

[Adieu]

LoveBC

Do you KNOW lil sista's LAX surge cap???

Looool.

 

[LoveBC]

LoveBC

Do you KNOW lil sista's LAX surge cap???

Looool.

Lil sista says I'm not welcome at LAX but she sends me pings anyways. Lil sista can go fornicate herself.

 

[Adieu]

What do you mean?

And btw sistas surge cap at lax is....7.

I'll just let that sink in. 7x.

PS sometimes it experiments with surging premier lux and suv separately, so their cap might be "only" 3.5 or so.

 

[LoveBC]

They have no means of stopping me, although I start any Lyft trip at LAX at negative $5 due to the trip ticket.

I think Lux cap might be at 75 or 100 last time I looked at SurgeChaser. The thing is how long must one wait for a Lux? I can get two UberBlack trips in the time it takes to get though the Lyft queue on Lux only

What do you mean?

And btw sistas surge cap at lax is....7.

I'll just let that sink in. 7x.

PS sometimes it experiments with surging premier lux and suv separately, so their cap might be "only" 3.5 or so.

 

[Adieu]

I have a sneaking suspicion that they just mean "you need a trip ticket, but we already pay LAX automatically yet it doesnt apply to you and we just dont have the correct mechanism to sort this out"

...although maybe calling LAX anonymously and asking if youre good with a trip ticket and a lyft waybill on TCP would be a good idea

 

[LoveBC]

I have a sneaking suspicion that they just mean "you need a trip ticket, but we already pay LAX automatically yet it doesnt apply to you and we just dont have the correct mechanism to sort this out"

...although maybe calling LAX anonymously and asking if youre good with a trip ticket and a lyft waybill on TCP would be a good idea

Nothing in the lax rule book says I can't take any type of trip so long as I have waybill, transponder, and Trip Ticket in order.

(If I'm wrong someone quote me the chapter and verse)

Lyft just doesn't wanna deal with reimbursing me the trip ticket and booking fee.

 

[20yearsdriving]

Nothing in the lax rule book says I can't take any type of trip so long as I have waybill, transponder, and Trip Ticket in order.

(If I'm wrong someone quote me the chapter and verse)

Lyft just doesn't wanna deal with reimbursing me the trip ticket and booking fee.

There is a Couple of TCP Lyft Guys Out There Doing it Legit

 

[somedriverguy]

No cause smart pax will order Select for the same price as a 2.5 surge ride in a Prius. If the cheaper option always stays cheap it won't happen. If there are enough willing ants to drive for base 24/7 even on Thanksgiving, higher level tiers are fawked.

I think Uber's endgame is for them to provide a base fare ride to anyone that wants one at anytime they want it, especially when dealing with younger price sensitive crowds. At Coachella surge was turned off for pax except fwhile Uber paid 2.5 boost to drivers. The pax leaving at the end of the show paid the same as the pax who left early to beat the crowds (and possible surge)

Restaurants charge the same prices whether demand is high or low. They don't increase rates so that people willing to pay more get served quicker. They don't want to lose customers, so they want to provide the same service and prices to everyone, even if it means making them wait longer, since most customers would rather wait than overpay for food. Customers would be pissed if they kept getting jumped in line by people able to pay for the privilege. Employees are paid the same rate whether busy or slow, and they will be offered more hours rather than a higher hourly rate, except for a 1.5 increase for overtime hours.

In other words, Uber wants to treat their customers and workforce the same way a regular business does.

The whole point is they aren't a regular business and we aren't employees. So **** em.