The IRS to hire 87,000 new agents. Who will they go after?

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just_me

Discussion Starter · 10 mo ago

Most likely the gig economy workers.

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TakeFive

· #41 · 10 mo ago

just_me said:
Yes and no. If you’re doing side gigs and are not reporting the extra income, you could be audited if the IRS finds out, regardless of your income.

Frankly, I don’t see how the IRS can maintain present audit levels for the lower classes (under 400k) given the amount of side gigs not reported. Remember, Janet Yellen is looking for 7 trillion dollars.

Back in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and into the 80s, the last time they were searching for money, the IRS was into everyone’s business. We were all guilty until proven innocent during an audit. I can remember many bad stories from that time period.

If I remember correctly, part of the Reagan Revolution was for a kinder and gentler IRS. If true, then this aspect of the Reagan Revolution is over. The IRS is looking for money again.

Just spitballing.

Gig workers like us, if they get a 1099 for more than (say) $50,000 then the IRS may ask them to fill out the required form via a computer program.

But if you're a free lancer making a $150k as a writer with little overhead then yeah, you better file taxes. If you're an influencer on YouTube etc making over six figures with little cost, then yeah, you better file taxes. If you're making a lot of money from doing soft porn, then yeah, you better declare and file.

But they're really after the bigger fish. While they may be 'ordinary' citizens if they're scamming Medicare for $millions you better believe the IRS want to know.

There's a lot of money laundering for various fraud that uses Crypto exchanges etc. IRS want to find these guys.

Just curious when did JY say she was looking for 7 trillion dollars? That sounds made up to me.

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tohunt4me

· #42 · 10 mo ago

just_me said:
This Yahoo News article gives more detail of what the IRS CI division does, which is where most of the 87,000 new IRS agents will be going. The types of crimes talked about aren’t crimes generally associated with corporations or billionaires, but rather with lower classes.

https://news.yahoo.com/irs-deletes-job-posting-seeking-212152157.html

“The “Major Duties” listed in the job description included “a level of fitness necessary to effectively respond to life-threatening situations on the job,” and being “willing and able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants, and other dangerous assignments.”

Taxing the Fentanyl Dealers !

That would be TERRIFIC !

CLEAN OUT THE DRUG DEALERS.

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ChicagoHeat12

· #43 · 10 mo ago

ObeyTheNumbers said:
Arrr! Them tax and spend bandits coming after my tip jar again!

Which tax and spend bandit are you talking about -- Dem or Republicans? -- because they both tax and spend.

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#1husler

· #44 · 10 mo ago

ChicagoHeat12 said:
Republicans?

Ok, but not Trump.

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U phoria

· #45 · 10 mo ago

New2This said:
Infowars.

Get your seeds, vitamins and canned meals.

bullets

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tohunt4me

· #46 · 10 mo ago

U phoria said:
bullets

A .22 caliber air rifle is Great !
Quiet.
Good for birds,squirrel, rabbits.
Doesn't announce to everyone around that you have just gotten FOOD when you shoot something.
Pellets are very light compared to brass cartridge's.

Amsoil Uber Connect

· #47 · 10 mo ago (Edited)

Any one can do a Freedom of Information Act request and obtain a copy of there Individual Master File that the service keeps / has on everyone. I've requested it for several years and for the record never once saw the Criminal Investigation part checked for any year I did not file.

In it you will fined all the documents W-2's, 1099's, Uber / Lyft Summary reports and bank records, credit card balances and mortgages. All your 1040 Return has to do is Mirror those records and match what there computer has on you. Any one with half a brain ought to know what the service has and is holding against you. For most, it's W-2's and 1099's, Mortgage interest paid if your Schedule A is more than 20,000. For most years my Sched A averaged 15,000. Thank you President Trump for giving me / us an extra 4 to 5,000 tax credit. Sadly I think it ends for filing year 2026 ?

I can not say about Business income.

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just_me

Discussion Starter · #48 · 10 mo ago

TakeFive said:
Just spitballing.

Gig workers like us, if they get a 1099 for more than (say) $50,000 then the IRS may ask them to fill out the required form via a computer program.

But if you're a free lancer making a $150k as a writer with little overhead then yeah, you better file taxes. If you're an influencer on YouTube etc making over six figures with little cost, then yeah, you better file taxes. If you're making a lot of money from doing soft porn, then yeah, you better declare and file.

But they're really after the bigger fish. While they may be 'ordinary' citizens if they're scamming Medicare for $millions you better believe the IRS want to know.

There's a lot of money laundering for various fraud that uses Crypto exchanges etc. IRS want to find these guys.

Just curious when did JY say she was looking for 7 trillion dollars? That sounds made up to me.

No need to name call.

You've already been told in this discussion where to look for JY and her stated need for $7 trillion dollars. If you don't want to look at that data, then that's your prerogative. What's not acceptable in a discussion is you refusing to look at the supplied data (dismissing) and then coming back here and name calling. That's no longer a discussion. That's something else.

"Gig workers like us" - there's more to the gig economy than U/L driving as you know. But, your definition of 'gig worker' may need to be re-examined. It's a bigger field than you may currently realize. Not every 'gig worker' in the gig economy gets a 1099. Fact. A lot of gig work (or side hustle) is done in cash, barter, etc. And regardless of which economic class you're in, the IRS will come after you if you didn't declare all of your income (again, as you already know).

How can the IRS catch that? A story from the 70s: Company A does work for company B. The IRS audits company B and wants to verify that company B paid company A for work done (note: this is where the extra IRS agents will come in play today - going site to site and actually looking - as they used to back in the 30s through early 80s).

So the IRS goes to company A to look for that specific transaction and finds nothing. No mention of services rendered. Turns out an executive at company A cashed the check, but pocketed the money instead. Company A now gets audited too. (I know the people who were involved in this from company A). My point here is these audits had a way of snow balling back in the day. And it will happen again since we now have 87,000 new IRS agents actually tasked with finding hidden money. History repeats. Also, this snowball effect worked between individuals back then too. One declared, the other didn't.

Other than that, I agree with you that they will be coming after crypto, real estate flippers, sellers, etc, etc. Our disagreement seems to be with the classes. The Treasury needs the money. And they are going to look at everyone - if only to get an idea of what's out there (hidden). Lower classes first. They can't defend themselves.

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U phoria

· #49 · 10 mo ago

tohunt4me said:
A .22 caliber air rifle is Great !
Quiet.
Good for birds,squirrel, rabbits.
Doesn't announce to everyone around that you have just gotten FOOD when you shoot something.
Pellets are very light compared to brass cartridge's.

We have suppressors here in AZ

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68350

· #50 · 10 mo ago

notouber said:
Today was the first time I had to put a place a guy on the ignore list. Let him yodel in a canyon by himself.

I think I've done that once or twice here. Not recently. It can be best to just not see some posts from some peeps...

68350

· #51 · 10 mo ago

U phoria said:
bullets

Yup

ANThonyBoreDaneCook

· #52 · 10 mo ago

dnlbaboof said:
Stride to log all your miles.

Show this advice to the IRS when/if you get audited. I'm sure they'll allow your deductions after they see that you can't provide any detailed trip information.

Let us know how it works out!

68350

· #53 · 10 mo ago

I log my miles manually, it's SO easy to do.

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Jdemonto

· #54 · 10 mo ago

They’re coming after you and me! Trump was just in the way!🇺🇸

Hopefully the red wave will defund the IRS!

TakeFive

· #55 · 10 mo ago

Jdemonto said:
They’re coming after you and me! Trump was just in the way!🇺🇸

Hopefully the red wave will defund the IRS!

The Red Wave is looking a bit shaky, especially for the Senate. Whenever a new President is elected the opposition party ALWAYS wins the mid-terms in the House so that's to be expected..

In AZ you have half the Republicans loving Lake while the other half of Republicans think she's a nut case. Should be close, I suspect.

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backstreets-trans

· #56 · 10 mo ago

TakeFive said:
The Red Wave is looking a bit shaky, especially for the Senate. Whenever a new President is elected the opposition party ALWAYS wins the mid-terms in the House so that's to be expected..

In AZ you have half the Republicans loving Lake while the other half of Republicans think she's a nut case. Should be close, I suspect.

I'll be voting all dems in the up coming election. I'm sick of all the lies about a stolen election and the crooked orange guy leading them. Trump is responsible for the death of truth in our society. I'm a registered independent.

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TakeFive

· #57 · 10 mo ago

backstreets-trans said:
I'll be voting all dems in the up coming election. I'm sick of all the lies about a stolen election and the crooked orange guy leading them. Trump is responsible for the death of truth in our society. I'm a registered independent.

I hear ya. I'm also registered independent.

Also not a fan of Peter Peter's (Thiel) puppet, Blake Masters. By coincidence, a fun piece (a little nerdy) just popped up on Politico about him

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just_me

Discussion Starter · #58 · 10 mo ago

TakeFive said:
The Red Wave is looking a bit shaky, especially for the Senate. Whenever a new President is elected the opposition party ALWAYS wins the mid-terms in the House so that's to be expected..

In AZ you have half the Republicans loving Lake while the other half of Republicans think she's a nut case. Should be close, I suspect.

The Trump endorsed candidates did well in the GOP primary elections overall. It’ll be interesting to see how they will fare in the general elections.

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just_me

Discussion Starter · #59 · 10 mo ago

Jdemonto said:
They’re coming after you and me! Trump was just in the way!🇺🇸

Hopefully the red wave will defund the IRS!

No defunding of the IRS, I’m afraid - not while we have a 30 trillion dollar national debt to payoff, in addition to the 7 trillion dollar projected short fall that Janet Yellen was talking about.

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U phoria

· #60 · 10 mo ago

Red , blue whatever…. We need term limits and age restrictions. Sick of these 80 year olds running the country! Retire out at 65…. Can’t run for President if you are over 60, I mean look at drunk Pelosi… multi millionaire from insider trading and she does it right in our face.

And yes they all do it , they just ALL need to go

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