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Sean112 said:
“Ants will do the work”. What does that mean?

Ants booked time (active hours) is nearly 100% of off-book time (in-active)

Ant example will do all trips, No cherry-Pick
An Ant will do a $3 to $6 trip
4 to 6 miles to pickup
4 to 6 miles to dropoff
totals miles 8 to 12
an ant will do this trip even if it takes 20+ mins
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i will do a $4.80 to $6 trip if - example
fare needs to = more than miles
0.1 to 3 miles to pickup
0.1 to 3 miles to dropoff
totals miles 0.2 to 6
if it takes 10 mins or less to do (15 mins max if a slow day or hour(s) of a good day)

MY booked time (active hours) is a lot less than my off-book time (in-active)
LYFT AND UBER
$60 per hour active time

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· #11 · 5 mo ago

Sean112 said:
This is the only forum I know where the people in the business demean others for being in the business. “Ants will do the work”. What does that mean? That people who are almost as stupid as you will do the work? Seriously, I think the whole driving labor force has PTSD.

you are hating right now, you are hating the Non-Ant

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· #18 · 5 mo ago

Atom guy said:
But what were you doing all those extra hours? Sitting in your car doing nothing? How is that productive? By your online hours you are making way less than $20/hour. What's the point?

I'm going to let others explain it to you
if they so choose to, key points:
1. I am working two apps Uber and Lyft,
2. A few of those hours are not me in my car, some or me at home waiting for a trip from my local Shopping Center are the Metrolink which is only like two blocks down the street,
3. I am on a higher tier I can do Uber comfort and Lyft luxury,
4. I have a laptop and a big tablet which allows me to do certain things in my car that I would normally do at home,
5. I drive a 2017 Lincoln mkz, so sitting in my car is not some uncomfortable unbearable task, I have premium sound system and YouTube music and I actually do many times enjoy being in a car and being alone.

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· #21 · 5 mo ago

Want to make it clear to you do not assume that because I can do comfort and lux that that's all I do, there are days when I see very few Comfort trips and maybe one or no Lux trips, but when I get the higher higher tier trips especially the Lyft luxury trips it brings up my average per hour earnings.

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· #24 · 5 mo ago

@Sean112
And think about this, what is most taxi drivers doing by default, they're sitting and waiting for a trip a lot of sitting and waiting for a trip, what am I doing on my own (my own default) sitting and watching crap trips go by until I get one that I think is profitable.

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· #28 · 5 mo ago (Edited)

Atom guy said:
You are still online, tethered to your phone for all those hours. You can't really do much except surf the internet in case that one great trip comes in. I don't see the point. I am logged in in the low 30s per week, and prefer to keep busy as much of that time as possible. Then I log off and have my time truly free. I'm making $25-30/logged in hour vs your maybe $15/hour

There are occasional jobs that I do freelance, no time constraint to complete Maybe 24, 48 or 72 hours, but my time the individual sessions that I do to complete the task have no limitations, I could literally be doing a job and I'm giving 48 hours to complete it but the job itself may only take one or two hours so I could literally do 12 5-minutes sessions to complete a 1-hour job.

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· #34 · 5 mo ago (Edited)

As an ex taxi driver, ex Medical Transport driver, ex limo driver, I am used to sitting and waiting for an assignment, so my mindset with Uber and Lyft is the same I sit and wait for a profitable trip, I don't care if I sit in the car for 50 hours and my active time is only 20 for 30 hours, I don't see the point of continuing to work and put wear and tear and mileage on my car just to make maybe a few extra hundred per week, I intend to keep my car in good condition so when I sell it in a few years it's still a decent Transportation car I don't intend to run the wheels off of it like is said on this site,

In my mindset my car is what’s earning the money I am guess it's driver, my job is to make sure my car earns the most amount of money per active hour/per active mile,

Depending on how busy are non-busy it is and the traffic conditions, I use one of two mindsets when I am working,

1. Pay per hour earnings, this rule is mostly used for longer trips,
I don't care what the mileage of the trip as long as my car is earning 40 plus per hour and I am dropping off in a busy City

2. Pay per mile earnings, this rule is mostly used for shorter trips,
short trips those ones that come in for under $10 especially the ones that are like $5 to $7, short trips need to be able to be completed within 10 minutes 15 minutes max if it's a slow day or slow hour of the day, if the trip is closer to the $10 range I will allow it a few more minutes, the total mileage to complete the trip can't be greater than the fare,

So think of it like a sliding scale, one end of the scale is pay per mileage based, the other end of the scale is pay for time based, so I adjust that scale as needed.

The $40 plus obviously will not work in every market and will not work at all times of day, I will be honest and sometimes I have to adjust it down to as little as 25 per hour but most mornings in the Inland Empire weekday mornings, $40 plus per hour is doable

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· #49 · 5 mo ago

Lord Summerisle said:
This is a good way to think of it - not what you're earning but what your car is earning.

My car my vehicle is what is earning the money it is what is for hire, and I am it's work manager and it's driver, I decide which clients my car will work for, I decide which clients can hire my car.

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· #57 · 5 mo ago

Atavar said:
I still want to hear how you think whining and complaining hear will effect positive change.

Users whining and complaining about the service that they use is not unique to rideshare, I'm involved in the server community, people complain all the time about a particular company or service our product and still keep using it, they will complain and whine about the the ticketing support which takes days sometimes a week to get a response that should take no more than a few hours, they complain about Server company saying they have unlimited bandwidth and everything is going fine until one day or a few days they need a lot of bandwidth all at one time and then they find out their server is throttled still a good company still good service but the actual statement of unlimited bandwidth was false kind of the same thing when our cell phone service saying we have unlimited bandwidth, they complain about a server that they're using whose price certainly increases because they claim that their electricity costs have gone up, if you join some of the server social sites that I am involved in you read people complaining all the time.

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· #59 · 5 mo ago (Edited)

illin1 said:
cab drivers do no care about 10+ mile away rides going less than 2 miles (90+% of requests)or .60 a mile super scabs lmao

I wish I had a Time machine, so I could bring you back to the year 2000 to 2012, and have Riverside Inland Empire taxi hire you as a driver or let me make that clear let you lease a taxi at $500 a week plus gas and then you will find out real quick that a lot of the trips you did as cash are crap, like being told by your dispatcher to go from Downtown Riverside to Moreno Valley to pick up a fare only to find out that they're going to their local 7-Eleven or liquor store for a pack of cigarettes total fare about five bucks, are sitting downtown Riverside near the public bus station and the Greyhound station is across the street and all you're getting all day long is people walking up to your car going one or two miles down the street into the local neighborhood about $4 to $7 a few of the fares didn't even make it to $4 and many of them did not tip, there was one old dude who would request a taxi every night, if there was a few of us sitting downtown Riverside we would actually talk among ourselves of who's going to go get him, some dispatchers would let us keep our position to go service him, his fare was less than $4 and he counted his fare out in change, he actually tell us I don't pay
anymore or anyless, one night I had to wait about 3 or 4 minutes for him to count out change I finally told him the trip was free he told me I pay for my fare not a penny more not a penny less, go live in my taxi world for a few months then come back and cry more about rideshare,

Did I do well driving Taxi, most weeks I did, but most of it from my own advertising efforts are the account trips that were given to me, rarely from cash paying customers from dispatch.

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· #60 · 5 mo ago

painfreepc said:
1. Pay per hour earnings, this rule is mostly used for longer trips,
I don't care what the mileage of the trip as long as my car is earning 40 plus per hour and I am dropping off in a busy City

The $40 plus obviously will not work in every market and will not work at all times of day, I will be honest and sometimes I have to adjust it down to as little as 25 per hour but most mornings in the Inland Empire weekday mornings, $40 plus per hour is doable.

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· #113 · 4 mo ago

Five Star Transportation said:
This ant did $540 last Friday night. Super ant lol.

Let's see some screenshots of you completing this without it being part of some weekly Quest or something like that.

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· #115 · 4 mo ago

Sean112 said:
does anybody care if nobody in this dumb forum believes them or not?

To be brutally honest, I will find more Thrills going outside watching the grass grow than to see his actual screenshots

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· #128 · 4 mo ago

Heisenburger said:
It's entertaining that you do even one trip per month. You're still filling Uber's coffers by the trip!

Amusing how the ones who complain the most still drive and still feed Uber and lyft, there's an eight year old thrend on this site which has life back into it again person is driving a car in 2015 that's a Corolla already 8 years old, already saying he's getting 90 cents per mile gas is $2 a gallon and complaining about making no money, I guess have to face palm, and yes it's bad now it is getting worse, but that was 2015, and yes some of us are earning money by pulling some of the equity out of our car, well if you can't go to the bank and get a $20,000 loan or more what else are you going to do, I mean no one borrows $20,000 off their house put that in their bank and then people tell them that's not their money.

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· #129 · 4 mo ago

Deegizzle said:
I am also a sit and wait guy. That's probably more of a product of my market though, which seems to always have steady demand.

I usually only drive on days where I know I have all the time in the world to myself, and can come close to timing-out the full 12 hours, so what I do is I try to make each of those 12 hours as profitable as possible, which means waiting patiently for all of the best rides.

I can go out for a few hours on a day like today, but personal obligations would dictate my schedule and likely force me to have too much dead head time to where it isn't worth it.

I do the same thing sit and wait, sometimes my booked active hours are only slightly more than my unbooked inactive hours,

And I count my booked hours active hours as my hourly rate, in other words if I'm in the car for 10 hours (online) and my booked active hours is 7 hours, then I calculate my hourly rate based on 7 hours not 10, some of you may think I'm crazy so be it.

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