[UbaaDrivaa]

So if your first pool picked up was a 1.5x, the 1.5x will apply to others pick up until the last drop off.

This sound good but ... what if the surge continue to surge higher. Say if your first pick up was a 1.5x and then it kept on surging, your second pick up was a 3.0x. We will still get 1.5x because that was the first pick up.

Your thoughts ?

 

[Strange Fruit]

If you get a higher surge rider, u must kick out the current rider and end their trip before picking up next person. It's the only way to roll.
Ur question is answered in the paragraph, btw. They already told us what ur asking.

 

[seua_yai]

If I see the first ping in a Pool @ 2.0+ I would be more likely to take it than a lower surge.

I'm skipping most Pools lately since I stopped chasing promotions. It's a lot more relaxing and I've seen my $/ride & $/hr. averages go up. Not working very many hours though due to other obligations.

 

[Strange Fruit]

They probably did this to keep people from rejecting future pings when they get a surge pool. I can't believe they waited this long to do this.

 

[Uberdancer]

 

[UbaaDrivaa]

I am interpreting what the picture says. No need to get smart

 

[Strange Fruit]

I am interpreting what the picture says. No need to get smart

I know there's no need. It's a pathetic impulse I have.
The first sentence says that you get the surge of the first rider. If that's 1.5X, then the whole ride is 1.5X. Question answered. Except you didn't ask. You asked "any thoughts". So you're wrong cuz I didn't even "get smart"; not even close to smart. My tiny minded inability to handle ambiguity tells me there is nothing to think about tho. You get the surge rate of the first rider in the chain.

 

[crazy916]

I know there's no need. It's a pathetic impulse I have.
The first sentence says that you get the surge of the first rider. If that's 1.5X, then the whole ride is 1.5X. Question answered. Except you didn't ask. You asked "any thoughts". So you're wrong cuz I didn't even "get smart"; not even close to smart. My tiny minded inability to handle ambiguity tells me there is nothing to think about tho. You get the surge rate of the first rider in the chain.

Yeah please don't confuse Strange Fruit with being smart*.

*I think Strange Fruit is smart just a bit awkward. Not that there is anything wrong with being awkward, all people are different. Different is good as long as you are not crazy. Wait a second did I just have a Strange Fruit moment.

 

[fork2323]

So if your first pool picked up was a 1.5x, the 1.5x will apply to others pick up until the last drop off.

This sound good but ... what if the surge continue to surge higher. Say if your first pick up was a 1.5x and then it kept on surging, your second pick up was a 3.0x. We will still get 1.5x because that was the first pick up.

Your thoughts ?

Herebis what really sucks about pool, is that even though its super cheap, uber still takes the full $1.85 service fee from Each Pax.. so you also loose 3x service fee.. no pool

 

[Strange Fruit]

Yeah please don't confuse Strange Fruit with being smart*.

*I think Strange Fruit is smart just a bit awkward. Not that there is anything wrong with being awkward, all people are different. Different is good as long as you are not crazy. Wait a second did I just have a Strange Fruit moment.

That's how it works. All day long until I figure the whole world out.....or go crazy.

Meanwhile.....does anybody ever ask pax for candy or water when they get in? Or maybe just change?
One time I gave away an Umbrella.

I like the new pool surge system. Secondary pings are rarely higher since in a surge situation I'm usually playing for the highest ping. It's part of how you use that 25% window of ping rejections. The real issue is when you have a high surged ping, then you get a second ride. Second pick ups slow your mileage down and even if they are the same surge rate, if they are getting dropped off first, you aren't adding significant distance to the surged trip. And more often than not, if you just had that first rider with the longer trip, you could take a longer route like the freeway and make that surge mileage in less time, but if you have Rider B with the shorter trip, you probably can't take the freeway cuz their drop off is between.

Like if you get Rider A in Civic Center and they're going to State college, you can take 280 South to Brother hood. Adds some distance to the trip and takes even less time than the direct route. But when you get Rider B who gets dropped off first, they can be on Castro or something like that, so you take Market all the way, drop them off, then take Rider A down Market to Portola, to Junipero or 19th ave. Total is shorter distance and takes longer, so you make less money than if you just took Rider A by them self. And when this happens I end up telling the riders how this works cuz I just can't (won't?) help myself. (Oh, that's why my rating sucks, I should shut my mouth) If I cancel Rider B instead, then everyone is happy. Even Rider B cuz they'll get another ride in an instant.

 

[tecra]

Stop Request is your best friend, I guess.
Unless you are chasing for bonus
Or kick the lower surge pax out

 

[Strange Fruit]

Herebis what really sucks about pool, is that even though its super cheap, uber still takes the full $1.85 service fee from Each Pax.. so you also loose 3x service fee.. no pool

The fee is $1.75, and you have never lost that fee. Ever. Cuz it was never coming to you. We drive for the fare rate that is offered to us. That $1.75 is something they charge the riders for the privilege of "using their software". They also charge them more than the rate they pay us, so they get to keep that too. You're confusing the people that supposedly come here for information. Every few weeks it seems someone new comes to the forum after discovering the booking fee, and says they are being stolen from by Uber. Uber isn't taking anything. We didn't loose any fees. Nor did we lose them. In fact, they give us extra money cuz they know they can't have enough drivers with the cheap fares. Nobody knows how this will end up being profitable for them, cuz it isn't. But they are tightening the giveaways.

Stop Request is your best friend, I guess.
Unless you are chasing for bonus
Or kick the lower surge pax out

If you get a higher surge rider, u must kick out the current rider and end their trip before picking up next person. It's the only way to roll.

 

[BoboBig]

So if your first pool picked up was a 1.5x, the 1.5x will apply to others pick up until the last drop off.

This sound good but ... what if the surge continue to surge higher. Say if your first pick up was a 1.5x and then it kept on surging, your second pick up was a 3.0x. We will still get 1.5x because that was the first pick up.

Your thoughts ?

They are dumb and should have clarified wether if the surge is Higher you will get the Higher surge rate for the upcoming pick-ups...

They always mention it in other places where if the surge is higher then boost for example you will get the higher rate why don't you email them and ask so they can fix there misrepresented information well you know how Uber is always being sneaky one way or another..

 

[Strange Fruit]

They are dumb and should have clarified wether if the surge is Higher you will get the Higher surge rate for the upcoming pick-ups...

They always mention it in other places where if the surge is higher then boost for example you will get the higher rate why don't you email them and ask so they can fix there misrepresented information well you know how Uber is always being sneaky one way or another..

They already specifically stated what happens. It's very clear. You get the surge of the first rider. Nothing to clarify.
If I simply offer you an apple ("I'm giving you an apple, yr welcome"), do you then say I need to clarify if I'm giving you a sandwich or not? No one mentioned any sandwiches. You made that question up. You just get an apple. That's it. So, sorry UbaaDrivaa , I meant to say what I said to you before, to this guy. I foresaw the confusion brought on by your thread, and tried to do damage control, to maintain the purity of the informational value of this forum. I failed though. It is impure now.

 

[crazy916]

That's how it works. All day long until I figure the whole world out.....or go crazy.

Meanwhile.....does anybody ever ask pax for candy or water when they get in? Or maybe just change?
One time I gave away an Umbrella.

I like the new pool surge system. Secondary pings are rarely higher since in a surge situation I'm usually playing for the highest ping. It's part of how you use that 25% window of ping rejections. The real issue is when you have a high surged ping, then you get a second ride. Second pick ups slow your mileage down and even if they are the same surge rate, if they are getting dropped off first, you aren't adding significant distance to the surged trip. And more often than not, if you just had that first rider with the longer trip, you could take a longer route like the freeway and make that surge mileage in less time, but if you have Rider B with the shorter trip, you probably can't take the freeway cuz their drop off is between.

Like if you get Rider A in Civic Center and they're going to State college, you can take 280 South to Brother hood. Adds some distance to the trip and takes even less time than the direct route. But when you get Rider B who gets dropped off first, they can be on Castro or something like that, so you take Market all the way, drop them off, then take Rider A down Market to Portola, to Junipero or 19th ave. Total is shorter distance and takes longer, so you make less money than if you just took Rider A by them self. And when this happens I end up telling the riders how this works cuz I just can't (won't?) help myself. (Oh, that's why my rating sucks, I should shut my mouth) If I cancel Rider B instead, then everyone is happy. Even Rider B cuz they'll get another ride in an instant.

I would still like to collect my $3.75. How about lunch on Sunday?

 

[BoboBig]

They already specifically stated what happens. It's very clear. You get the surge of the first rider. Nothing to clarify.
If I simply offer you an apple ("I'm giving you an apple, yr welcome"), do you then say I need to clarify if I'm giving you a sandwich or not? No one mentioned any sandwiches. You made that question up. You just get an apple. That's it. So, sorry UbaaDrivaa , I meant to say what I said to you before, to this guy. I foresaw the confusion brought on by your thread, and tried to do damage control, to maintain the purity of the informational value of this forum. I failed though. It is impure now.

That's BS cause if the surge goes higher then 1.5 then we should be paid the higher surge price for the next pick up don't you think they will charge the customer the higher surge rate and once again steal money from us like they are doing with all of this confusing pool ish?

 

[UbaaDrivaa]

That's BS cause if the surge goes higher then 1.5 then we should be paid the higher surge price for the next pick up don't you think they will charge the customer the higher surge rate and once again steal money from us like they are doing with all of this confusing pool ish?

exactly.. that's what I meant. Usually when it's surging, the surge would only go higher and chances are, we will get a 'higher' surge than the first pick up.

But i guess it goes both way, if we get 3.0x surge on pool, second or third pick up are lower, then it's good for us.

 

[BoboBig]

exactly.. that's what I meant. Usually when it's surging, the surge would only go higher and chances are, we will get a 'higher' surge than the first pick up.

But i guess it goes both way, if we get 3.0x surge on pool, second or third pick up are lower, then it's good for us.

Oh yeah your right I guess they feel like locking in the surge is meeting in middle I guess...

 

[TheWanderer]

Lyft has been doing this almost from the beginning.

 

[Strange Fruit]

exactly.. that's what I meant. Usually when it's surging, the surge would only go higher and chances are, we will get a 'higher' surge than the first pick up.

But i guess it goes both way, if we get 3.0x surge on pool, second or third pick up are lower, then it's good for us.

Paragraph 1 is false.

Oh yeah your right I guess they feel like locking in the surge is meeting in middle I guess...

Or they feel (most businesses use thinking tho, not feelings) that this will cut down on stopping requests after picking up the first rider. I doubt Ubaa was doing that to begin wih since he thinks secondary pings have higher surges.

That's BS cause if the surge goes higher then 1.5 then we should be paid the higher surge price for the next pick up don't you think they will charge the customer the higher surge rate and once again steal money from us like they are doing with all of this confusing pool ish?

No stealing or confusion. It's all pretty simple. You get 75% of $1.10 per mile + $0.15 per minute +$2 Xs whatever surge rider A has. That's it.