ive driven through many and never get a ping. usually by baldwin beach park. i usually catch the surge then move to an area not surging (airport) and get a ping to collect the surge. thats the advantage of the new surge....the only advantage. if i was in kaanapali id catch the surge then go to lahaina to get a ping or north a bit, just out of the surge. kaanapali is usually flooded with drivers. i never stay there unless i like waiting.