[KevinH]

https://www.axios.com/uber-driver-w...our-3e20955c-9a08-4ceb-8d5f-6f6b40db93e3.html

A two-year study of Uber drivers in Washington, D.C. found that Uber's payment system is so difficult to understand that 100% of participants had trouble figuring out how much they were actually earning.
Details: One female driver even calculated that she was making less than $5 an hour after expenses.
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Why it matters: The study could put more pressure on Uber to release more detailed data on how it pays drivers and put it in the cross-hairs of legislators.

• Researchers reported that 83% of drivers in the study knew what percentage of their fares Uber took, but 38% did not know how Uber determined that amount.
• "This varying degree of knowledge about compensation details could have been expected if the majority of drivers in our study were new to the Uber platform. But they were not. Seventy percent of the drivers in this study had worked on the Uber platform for at least seven months," researchers from Georgetown University said in the report.

The report's overall findings were limited to its 40-driver, one-city sample size, but because Uber doesn't provide detailed data on what its drivers earn, it is one of the clearest examples of how the company operates. (The FTC fined Uber $20 million in 2017 for exaggerating how much drivers could earn.)
The study's main conclusions:

• Data about the Uber workplace is limited. Regulators and researchers do not have access to basic information about labor conditions.
• Uber drivers are encouraged to take on financial risk and debt. 33% of drivers took on debt as a result of their work on the ride-hailing platform.
• Uber drivers report challenges to their health and safety. 30% of drivers reported physical assaults or safety concerns.
• Despite these challenges, the Uber workplace remained attractive. 50% of drivers would recommend the job to a friend, and 45% of drivers planned to keep working the job for at least 6 more months.

 

[dmoney155]

$5 is $5 more than what you would have otherwise. I will stand with sign "Shame on Drivers".

 

[beebob]

Higher paying J O B S are out there.??
?If ur Not qualified, whose fault is that?
Uber? The pax? Your parents for not preparing u ?

⚠The good news:
If you’re ambitious u can still get qualified.
But it takes hard work......
Harder than sitting in ur car all day blaming Uber for ur crap life.

No ambition?
That’s OK
But Don’t blame Uber
?Shame on YOU ✌?

 

[Taksomotor]

Yeah, there was a driver who showed a screenshot where he made $4 in a week of online time. He's been sitting in the woods somewhere, where no man ever set foot before, and he was rejecting every odd ride coming his way out of fear that it would take him outside of his preferred market...

 

[Ssgcraig]

How can someone only make $5 an hour? After you write off $.55 a mile, you make way more than $5 an hour. Stop the nonsense, if it's not working, go find another job the requires half a brain to follow a blue line on a smart phone.

 

[swathdiver]

The study could put more pressure on Uber to release more detailed data on how it pays drivers and put it in the cross-hairs of legislators.

"There outta be a law" cries the ignorant fool who see government as god. How about some proper schooling to learn what a P&L Statement is? Just a thought!

 

[Stevie The magic Unicorn]

And this is LAST YEARS numbers,

This years numbers will be worse due to surge changes ect.

 

[beebob]

And this is LAST YEARS numbers,

This years numbers will be worse due to surge changes ect.

Yet U continue to chauffeur Uber's clients.

Here's the thing: Uber management knows most FT drivers have no employment options. Subsequently they will kick u whenever it suits their fancy or entertainment. They know you'll come back for more.

Insanity: continually doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results

"There outta be a law" cries the ignorant fool who see government as god. How about some proper schooling to learn what a P&L Statement is? Just a thought!

It's the public school system's Fault?
That's a new twist ???on the "blame game"

Problem: most FT Uber drivers have never seen the inside of a classroom

 

[swathdiver]

This is one of those fake news stories that they make up and equivocate to pass it off a legitimate news.

I drive a truck and have never made that little of money, not even close.

Why it matters: The study could put more pressure on Uber to release more detailed data on how it pays drivers and put it in the cross-hairs of legislators.

• Researchers reported that 83% of drivers in the study knew what percentage of their fares Uber took, but 38% did not know how Uber determined that amount.

Nonsense right here. The bullet point has no bearing on income of the driver so it does not matter. It shows people's ignorance though. Consider this, 83% of driver's knowing what Uber's take is, shows that Uber is doing a great job of educating the drivers! There's no need to release more detailed data! LOL Knuckeheads.

 

[KevinH]

Higher paying J O B S are out there.??
?If ur Not qualified, whose fault is that?
Uber? The pax? Your parents for not preparing u ?

⚠The good news:
If you're ambitious u can still get qualified.
But it takes hard work......
Harder than sitting in ur car all day blaming Uber for ur crap life.

No ambition?
That's OK
But Don't blame Uber
?Shame on YOU ✌?

Your argument discounts those with disabilities, immigrants with language problems, those with schedule conflicts such as childcare or other concurrent work commitments.
Your arrogance is rather appalling.
Try to understand the difference between slavery and exploitation. A dictionary would help.

 

[25rides7daysaweek]

Your argument discounts those with disabilities, immigrants with language problems, those with schedule conflicts such as childcare or other concurrent work commitments.
Your arrogance is rather appalling.
Try to understand the difference between slavery and exploitation. A dictionary would help.

I think this site has alot of people that were probably deactivated on it. My guess is many of them have decided to just troll the site and tell actual drivers how stupid they are. I'm making a living driving full time w uber and lyft.

 

[amazinghl]

How can someone only make $5 an hour? After you write off $.55 a mile, you make way more than $5 an hour.

That's not how tax deduction works.

 

[Ssgcraig]

That's not how tax deduction works.

Clearly, but when you write off 20K miles, your burden is lowered. Wasn't a post about tax law, just that nobody is making $5 an hour.

 

[amazinghl]

Clearly, but when you write off 20K miles, your burden is lowered. Wasn't a post about tax law, just that nobody is making $5 an hour.

See my avatar? That's how much Uber paid me for a UE trip. I can only average about 2 - 2.5 trip an hour, that would me $6-$7.5 before expenses, that $5 an hour estimate would be true for me if I continue to do UE.

 

[Ssgcraig]

See my avatar? That's how much Uber paid me for a UE trip. I can only average about 2 - 2.5 trip an hour, that would me $6-$7.5 before expenses, that $5 an hour estimate would be true for me if I continue to do UE.

See my avatar? See the title to this thread? Uber drivers. Just because you only accept 25% of the available rides does not mean that you are earning $5 an hour, you just sit around all day and claim that you are being victimized. Try accepting UberX, Pool, XL, Black etc. Then after that, claim you are making less than 5 dollars an hour.

 

[amazinghl]

you just sit around all day and claim that you are being victimized.

I never claim I was victimized. I fought back by quitting UE permanently.

Since when does UberX, Pool, XL, and Black applied to a 2 seater that was made in 2000?

 

[Bob Reynolds]

See my avatar? That's how much Uber paid me for a UE trip. I can only average about 2 - 2.5 trip an hour, that would me $6-$7.5 before expenses, that $5 an hour estimate would be true for me if I continue to do UE.

How can you average 2.4 Uber Eats per hour?

That's a total of 24 minutes per order to receive the order, go to the restaurant, wait for the order, travel and deliver that order to the customer. And then repeat the same process over and over.

 

[amazinghl]

How can you average 2.4 Uber Eats per hour?

That's a total of 24 minutes per order to receive the order, go to the restaurant, wait for the order, travel and deliver that order to the customer. And then repeat the same process over and over.

Have you done delivery in Phoenix area?

5-10 minutes to get to the restaurant
1-10 minutes to wait for good to be prepare
5-10 minutes to get to the to the address
5-10 minutes to find the apartment number
1-2 minutes for customer to answer their phone is there is an issue with address/location

You do the math.

 

[Ssgcraig]

I never claim I was victimized. I fought back by quitting UE permanently.

Since when does UberX, Pool, XL, and Black applied to a 2 seater that was made in 2000?

So you only do 1 trip offered by Uber, but compare the same pay as drivers that accept pool and X? You can't compare driving only eats to regular uber drivers.

 

[Bob Reynolds]

Have you done delivery in Phoenix area?

5-10 minutes to get to the restaurant
1-10 minutes to wait for good to be prepare
5-10 minutes to get to the to the address
5-10 minutes to find the apartment number
1-2 minutes for customer to answer their phone is there is an issue with address/location

You do the math.

Doing the math that adds up to 42 minutes per delivery using your numbers.