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Part of this gig is getting people into habits and routine... they want them to routinely use pool and try to catch them not paying attention.

Unfortunately , this is having the opposite effect on surge and such and people are getting into the habit of waiting out surge and PT.... I'm jumping in much quicker to catch a ride rather than get too greedy and wait.
 

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A week and a half ago I was quoted $12 for uber and $6 for pool for a trip as a PAX. I think shorter trips have a big gap but the longer the trip the more the gap closes
Correct (ish). Same mileage rate, lower time rate. Intra-Seattle Pools are a huge difference, but also the longer the pool is, the more the time multiplyer starts to add up. A pool airport run from Seattle is several dollars less than a normal AP run. There's an equilibrium where the difference is smaller, but it's always less. If it gets matched, the car is tied up at a lower rate for longer, so it's eating into later profits.

Oh... and tried being pax for the first time last weekend. On Uber, no pool in the app (south sound). On Lyft, less than $1 difference for line. I saw someone mention no pool in the south sound. Confirmed from when I tried it.
 

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Hmmmm. I think it's more anecdotal evidence of what a scam upfront pricing is. From SKC to Seattle the price differential on this quote is only $ 8, not nearly double. I'd pay the extra $ 8 before risking making 19 stops on the way there. Lyft is quoting me $ 42.44 for a Line on the same route.

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redmond to north seattle was 27 stool, 57 x.
I don't doubt it. I have no doubts that Uber (and Lyft) use upfront pricing to manipulate rider usage in all sorts of ways. Uber may want to increase pool usage among Redmond denizens, and know there are enough ants around to meet any increased demand, and therefore makes those rates extra cheap. Get them in the habit, as someone else mentioned above. From SKC they might not be so interested in increasing Pool demand, for whatever reason. I'm not pretending to know U/L's motivations for anything, but I don't think they're consistent.
 

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I'm about to go pick up my car and here are the difference in rates right now.

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X is more than 260% of the cost of a Pool.

I'll take the X because I'm a driver, but it's awful hard to blame Pool riders for choosing Pool when the prices are so vastly different.
 

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I'm about to go pick up my car and here are the difference in rates right now.

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X is more than 260% of the cost of a Pool.

I'll take the X because I'm a driver, but it's awful hard to blame Pool riders for choosing Pool when the prices are so vastly different.
Take the Pool, Slap your driver for accepting it, get out, Order X...Actually....Take Select
 

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Also remember, when you're out of the city and get a Pool req. it usually means a longer trip, in most cases into Seattle. Pax app won't let you do Pool in SKC, to SKC. So if you're desperate enough to try to get back into Seattle...
True. From where I live very few destinations provide a Pool option. It's pretty much the airport, downtown Seattle, major shopping centers, etc. Forget Fred Meyer or the transit center. Bellevue Square? $ 52.95X, $ 50.30 Pool. Pool doesn't allow
 

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I'm about to go pick up my car and here are the difference in rates right now.

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X is more than 260% of the cost of a Pool.

I'll take the X because I'm a driver, but it's awful hard to blame Pool riders for choosing Pool when the prices are so vastly different.
I just take line rides as a passenger (if time isn't critical) because they don't screw the driver over (as badly)
 
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