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Slave labor at the very least

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uberOtt

Discussion Starter · Jun 21, 2015

It has been 3 weeks since I started to driver for Uber. Here is the summary of my trips for last 3 weeks.

I made about $782 from 102 trips before the Uber commission and $1 safety fees. And I drive in Ottawa market here in Canada. I think this is well below the minimum wage and Uber's slave labor wages.

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Taxi Driver in Arizona

· #41 · Jun 22, 2015

startin trouble said:
slave la·bor
noun

labor that is coerced and inadequately rewarded, or the people who perform such labor.

How again is this not appropriate to uber?

Nobody is coerced into driving for Uber. Conned into it maybe, but not coerced.

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uberOtt

Discussion Starter · #42 · Jun 22, 2015

With the low rates, Uber is sucking out the blood of drivers who have to pay 30% commission( $1 SF and 20%). Uber may not survive in many cities given their state of business model.

LoneXer

· #43 · Jun 22, 2015

aepdd said:
I learned it all here...I guess the *****ing rubbed off on me! LOL Or maybe it's contagious! !! Now hear is your blankie now take a nap! Baby sounds cranky. I love it

I tend to distrust cat people, obviously single or legally selected with kitty visitation.
Welcome to the Internet, where people have a right to ***** and moan at their leisure and even judged by morons that try to make an argument out of others point of view.

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uberOtt

Discussion Starter · #44 · Jun 22, 2015

Here is one trip example I give you:

From downtown Ottawa to Airport, Taxi fares will cost around $30, while Uber costs about $15. Of the $15, Uber charges $4 from the fare, leaving only $11 from which you have to count the gas money both ways. With gas expenses ($6 to $9), you will make only $2 to $5 for 50 minutes.

uberOtt

Discussion Starter · #45 · Jun 22, 2015

http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/hundreds-of-uber-cars-seized-for-illegal-pickups/

I'm not sure how true this story is.

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djino

· #46 · Jun 22, 2015

Hey uberOtt , I think you are the first Ottawa Uber driver (like myself) that I've seen on this forum. Welcome.

I agree with you on all points made in this thread. I often only drive Friday evenings (from 3pm to about 1am) and sometimes Saturdays depending family/friend events. When did you start driving?

djino

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Uber-Doober

· #47 · Jun 22, 2015

nobody said:
Please go watch 12 years a slave and tell me that driving people around for money whenever you choose is anything close to slave labor you idiot.

^^^
Uhhhh... is that the movie with Oprah in it?

djino

· #48 · Jun 22, 2015

Uber-Doober said:
^^^
Uhhhh... is that the movie with Oprah in it?

No. You are probably referring to "The Color Purple" or "The Butler"?

UberRidiculous

· #49 · Jun 22, 2015

chi1cabby said:
May I ask which Maryland market do you drive in?

chi1cabby I am guessing YOU are on to something!

Sydney Uber

· #50 · Jun 22, 2015

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These are a small sample of UBER Black job payment details. Great rates you may say - but not so.

I've been in the ground transport business longer than most sane folk

Now I KNOW that if all I had was those jobs at those rates I would eventually go broke. It would be a slow painful process, but those rates are unsustainable. Having private clients to underwrite my shifts allows the lower paying Uber work to increase the gross at the cost of a higher average. That is an ok outcome.

I encourage ALL UBERX drivers to keep looking for alternative work, give yourselves "headroom" in your lives so you don't miss opportunities elsewhere.

Pick the eyes out of the busy hours, work them hard when the work flows but ALWAYS "know when to fold 'em" as Kenny Rogers would say.

Unless you are productively engaged whilst waiting for the next ping (working on other stuff/study/paid surveys/job applications etc) on your laptop don't hang out like an addicted gambler thinking that the next ping will be the jackpot.

The measly amount that you take with UBERX is ok as it adds to your gross with other hopefully better paying stuff you do. But do it full time and it will grind you and your car down, not leaving much of two very inportant assets you own no good for much else.

That's my 2c, garnered from years in this game

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phillipzx3

· #51 · Jun 22, 2015

aepdd said:
HOLD UP !!! This is what gets me a lot of negative people on the forums yelling slave wages! Now here is my question to you! Why are you here? If its so bad then just stop! Did UBER kidnap your a$$ in the middle of the night and hand cuff you to a car and said drive slave and slap you upside the head?????? Duhh NO!! I didn't think so. So stop calling people stupid. You acting like a whining little [email protected]

I`m a business woman and I have another sucessful business so any intelligent business minded person can easily make money. These people on here like me who say they are making a profit and joined recently are bright! The dim lights are the ones who are whining and or can't make a profit. Sh#t or get off the toilet!!

And.... If you dont drive anymore but are just lurking around this forum please get a life!! Change your light bulb and shut the hell up!!!!!!!! Thank you ♥

Please excuse any typos or misspelled words...because I just dont give a #[email protected]×*!!

If you're driving for Goober, you're not a successful business women.

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UberRidiculous

· #52 · Jun 22, 2015

Sydney Uber said:
View attachment 8776

These are a small sample of UBER Black job payment details. Great rates you may say - but not so.

I've been in the ground transport business longer than most sane folk

Now I KNOW that if all I had was those jobs at those rates I would eventually go broke. It would be a slow painful process, but those rates are unsustainable. Having private clients to underwrite my shifts allows the lower paying Uber work to increase the gross at the cost of a higher average. That is an ok outcome.

I encourage ALL UBERX drivers to keep looking for alternative work, give yourselves "headroom" in your lives so you don't miss opportunities elsewhere.

Pick the eyes out of the busy hours, work them hard when the work flows but ALWAYS "know when to fold 'em" as Kenny Rogers would say.

Unless you are productively engaged whilst waiting for the next ping (working on other stuff/study/paid surveys/job applications etc) on your laptop don't hang out like an addicted gambler thinking that the next ping will be the jackpot.

The measly amount that you take with UBERX is ok as it adds to your gross with other hopefully better paying stuff you do. But do it full time and it will grind you and your car down, not leaving much of two very inportant assets you own no good for much else.

That's my 2c, garnered from years in this game

And those figures are Australian $ right? U.S. multiply by .77cents

Sydney Uber

· #53 · Jun 22, 2015

UberRidiculous said:
And those figures are Australian $ right? U.S. multiply by .77cents

Yes, fuel at about $5.50 per gallon, average house price within 20km of Sydney over 1million dollars, an ordinary 2 bed unit/ apartment close to main road $450 p/wk. Monthly Black license fee $635.00, yearly insurances $2500, Registration $850.

Cost of living is a killer here, dollar worth less. It's a good time to visit Australia with American dollars !

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ARIV005

· #54 · Jun 22, 2015

aepdd said:
HOLD UP !!! This is what gets me a lot of negative people on the forums yelling slave wages! Now here is my question to you! Why are you here? If its so bad then just stop! Did UBER kidnap your a$$ in the middle of the night and hand cuff you to a car and said drive slave and slap you upside the head?????? Duhh NO!! I didn't think so. So stop calling people stupid. You acting like a whining little [email protected]

I`m a business woman and I have another sucessful business so any intelligent business minded person can easily make money. These people on here like me who say they are making a profit and joined recently are bright! The dim lights are the ones who are whining and or can't make a profit. Sh#t or get off the toilet!!

And.... If you dont drive anymore but are just lurking around this forum please get a life!! Change your light bulb and shut the hell up!!!!!!!! Thank you ♥

Please excuse any typos or misspelled words...because I just dont give a #[email protected]×*!!

Standing on the corner selling booty... Far from a business woman. But the fact that you're driving your Johns around at the same time. That is convenient. Uber works for you. UBER ON!

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UberRidiculous

· #55 · Jun 22, 2015

ARIV005 said:
Standing on the corner selling booty... Far from a business woman. But the fact that you're driving your Johns around at the same time. That is convenient. Uber works for you. UBER ON!

ROF LMFAO!

uberOtt

Discussion Starter · #56 · Jun 22, 2015

djino said:
Hey uberOtt , I think you are the first Ottawa Uber driver (like myself) that I've seen on this forum. Welcome.

I agree with you on all points made in this thread. I often only drive Friday evenings (from 3pm to about 1am) and sometimes Saturdays depending family/friend events. When did you start driving?

djino

Hiya Djino,
I started 3 weeks ago, and usually work on Friday evening and Saturday. Even the usual busy Saturdays are not good enough for me, making around $6 per hour.
Cheers!

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uberOtt

Discussion Starter · #57 · Jun 22, 2015

Sydney Uber said:
View attachment 8776

These are a small sample of UBER Black job payment details. Great rates you may say - but not so.

I've been in the ground transport business longer than most sane folk

Now I KNOW that if all I had was those jobs at those rates I would eventually go broke. It would be a slow painful process, but those rates are unsustainable. Having private clients to underwrite my shifts allows the lower paying Uber work to increase the gross at the cost of a higher average. That is an ok outcome.

I encourage ALL UBERX drivers to keep looking for alternative work, give yourselves "headroom" in your lives so you don't miss opportunities elsewhere.

Pick the eyes out of the busy hours, work them hard when the work flows but ALWAYS "know when to fold 'em" as Kenny Rogers would say.

Unless you are productively engaged whilst waiting for the next ping (working on other stuff/study/paid surveys/job applications etc) on your laptop don't hang out like an addicted gambler thinking that the next ping will be the jackpot.

The measly amount that you take with UBERX is ok as it adds to your gross with other hopefully better paying stuff you do. But do it full time and it will grind you and your car down, not leaving much of two very inportant assets you own no good for much else.

That's my 2c, garnered from years in this game

My fares are nowhere close to your fares:

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cheers!

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josolo

· #58 · Jun 23, 2015

montine1 said:
We've got another newbie.

They've been driving a week and is already doling out advice.
Betting they've not had to buy tires, brakes, cv joints, repairs or even an oil change yet.
Depreciation? fugetabout it. They have 'business sense'.

I was once a why is everybody *****ing person myself.

When I totaled up my expenses and taxes etc last year, I quit driving.
Fortunately I still only have 18k on my car and it will last for years to come.
Had I kept driving, I'd have to start shopping for a new car in a year or two.
No small expense.

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Bart McCoy

· #59 · Jun 23, 2015

uberOtt said:
My fares are nowhere close to your fares:
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cheers!

bunch of short trips
some barely a mile
but ottawa is basically $1.28/mile
which is more than most US cities

have to have at least a 10mile trip to make decent-good money
not one on that list

Bart McCoy

· #60 · Jun 23, 2015

josolo said:
When I totaled up my expenses and taxes etc last year, I quit driving.
Fortunately I still only have 18k on my car and it will last for years to come.
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im in same boat, about 15K on my car,but my only expense is gas and $30 oil change every 5,000 miles. And it'll remain like that for years due to
warranty:
bumper to bumper for another 3 years
powertrain for another 8 years

so exactly what are your car expenses? and you pay tax yearly on the car or something?

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