[Rideshare Dude]

Since the inception of up from pricing, Uber seems to be varying our pay wildly, depending on supply/demand, without applying any “surge.”

Both of these rides are the same pax. Six days apart. I had no surge and the pax was not in a surge area. I’ve been giving this pax a ride to work a few times a week for at least two months now. I pass on the ride when it doesn’t pay enough. The driver pay offered is always between these two amounts and usually on the lower end.

 

[UberBastid]

Now that you've finally figured out what kind of company you work for -- what's Plan B?

 

[Schmanthony]

How do you know the passenger was not in a surge area?

 

[Daisey77]

Surge is completely irrelevant now with up front pricing. I've had rides with the surge offer to pay less than rides without a surge

 

[Rideshare Dude]

How do you know the passenger was not in a surge area?

1) I am 1.5 miles away as the crow flies and I can see the surge for his area on my map
2) We have talked about the price he pays. It is always $18-$20

 

[Schmanthony]

1) I am 1.5 miles away as the crow flies and I can see the surge for his area on my map

You can't "see" pax surge like that. It's not shown on the map. Driver surge is not the same thing as pax surge.

2) We have talked about the price he pays. It is always $18-$20

Always always? Is it possible it was more than that on that $23 day? I would find it very surprising that Uber would pay out more on a trip than the pax is paying without Surge or Boost.

The only way you can get an idea about the surge the pax might be paying is to look at the pax app and put in a point A and B where you know what the base fare is between A and B.

Remember how before UFF you'd sometimes get a "surprise" or a "shared" surge on a trip at the end? For example, you'd get a $4.50 sticky and complete the trip but when you check the trip details at the end of the trip, it would say the trip had a surge of something like $14.73? Also on those trips, you'd get about 50% of the pax fare but most drivers wouldn't care because they got paid more than they thought. I believe that "shared" surge is still going on now that we have UFF. The only difference is that we can see the shared surge up front before we accept the trip rather than only after the trip is completed.

 

[Rideshare Dude]

You can't "see" pax surge like that. It's not shown on the map. Driver surge is not the same thing as pax surge.

Always always? Is it possible it was more than that on that $23 day? I would find it very surprising that Uber would pay out more on a trip than the pax is paying without Surge or Boost.

The only way you can get an idea about the surge the pax might be paying is to look at the pax app and put in a point A and B where you know what the base fare is between A and B.

Remember how before UFF you'd sometimes get a "surprise" or a "shared" surge on a trip at the end? For example, you'd get a $4.50 sticky and complete the trip but when you check the trip details at the end of the trip, it would say the trip had a surge of something like $14.73? Also on those trips, you'd get about 50% of the pax fare but most drivers wouldn't care because they got paid more than they thought. I believe that "shared" surge is still going on now that we have UFF. The only difference is that we can see the shared surge up front before we accept the trip rather than only after the trip is completed.

Hey Mr. know it all, here’s a thought, go piss on somebody else’s cornflakes.

It’s pretty evident through simple observation that Uber is manipulating prices and pay without using Surge.

 

[ObeyTheNumbers]

Since the inception of up from pricing, Uber seems to be varying our pay wildly, depending on supply/demand, without applying any “surge.”

Both of these rides are the same pax. Six days apart. I had no surge and the pax was not in a surge area. I’ve been giving this pax a ride to work a few times a week for at least two months now. I pass on the ride when it doesn’t pay enough. The driver pay offered is always between these two amounts and usually on the lower end.

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Keep recording data from this same trip and look for patterns. You have an excellent opportunity here.

 

[OCBob]

1) I am 1.5 miles away as the crow flies and I can see the surge for his area on my map
2) We have talked about the price he pays. It is always $18-$20

Tell him that you have to cancel sometimes when the price is too low. Just work it out as "friends" and get paid privately $20. He knows you and you are fairly close. You score, he scores and F Uber in the middle.

 

[Erik M]

How do you know the passenger was not in a surge area?

You don't know, I think that's his point!

 

[Erik M]

W

You can't "see" pax surge like that. It's not shown on the map. Driver surge is not the same thing as pax surge.

Always always? Is it possible it was more than that on that $23 day? I would find it very surprising that Uber would pay out more on a trip than the pax is paying without Surge or Boost.

The only way you can get an idea about the surge the pax might be paying is to look at the pax app and put in a point A and B where you know what the base fare is between A and B.

Remember how before UFF you'd sometimes get a "surprise" or a "shared" surge on a trip at the end? For example, you'd get a $4.50 sticky and complete the trip but when you check the trip details at the end of the trip, it would say the trip had a surge of something like $14.73? Also on those trips, you'd get about 50% of the pax fare but most drivers wouldn't care because they got paid more than they thought. I believe that "shared" surge is still going on now that we have UFF. The only difference is that we can see the shared surge up front before we accept the trip rather than only after the trip is completed.

WTF is a "sticky" and why do some people keep using that stupid terminology.

 

[bobby747]

Now that you've finally figured out what kind of company you work for -- what's Plan B?

Figuring it out now..hahahaha

 

[Rideshare Dude]

W

WTF is a "sticky" and why do some people keep using that stupid terminology.

I picked up the term from my greenlight hub manager. That is what Uber used to refer to the new surge because it sticks with you wherever you go until you use it or decline an offer.

 

[SinTaxERROR]

Figuring it out now..hahahaha

You figured out it is the morning after pill? 🤔

 

[bobby747]

Buddy I invested long ago to do wav. I am.ok..a few of us got it figured out ...its this simple decline 11 to take 1 while area is busy. Other find a new job. I am in a big city. So many here are not.
I got private passengers having commercial insurance. Many cannot as its alot$$$. Shed no tears for me...

 

[Erik M]

I picked up the term from my greenlight hub manager. That is what Uber used to refer to the new surge because it sticks with you wherever you go until you use it or decline an offer.

Your greenlight hub manager must be a frequent visitor to this site because this site is the only place I've heard that term and I drive in Los Angeles and talk to a hundred drivers a month.

 

[UberBastid]

Your greenlight hub manager must be a frequent visitor to this site because this site is the only place I've heard that term and I drive in Los Angeles and talk to a hundred drivers a month.

Then you are The Godfather to see to, you know .. fix things.
Make them right. Right?

Your private cell number is worth a small fortune.

 

[Erik M]

Then you are The Godfather to see to, you know .. fix things.
Make them right. Right?
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Your private cell number is worth a small fortune.

Not at all, just self aware of a dumb word that has no merit to the situation used by a few dingleberries!

 

[Daisey77]

Your greenlight hub manager must be a frequent visitor to this site because this site is the only place I've heard that term and I drive in Los Angeles and talk to a hundred drivers a month.

Well California does function completely different than the rest of the rideshare community in the country. So it's quite possible you guys don't have sticky surges🤷‍♀️

 

[Erik M]

Well California does function completely different than the rest of the rideshare community in the country. So it's quite possible you guys don't have sticky surges🤷‍♀️

We call them add'l ride bonuses and if it happens to stay with you on the next ride, that part will be mentioned. Saying I have a "sticky" sounds like my 8yr old talking!