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Just sent this message to uber support. Have at it.

Please forward the below message to your Uber American support concierge. Court if possible assisted with my last concern. (415) 569- **** is her desk.


I wanted to put this all in writing so I can be sure it’s communicated very clearly.


You can see I messaged in about this 10:52 trip above.


As you can see, ManasS gave me your standard: a copy and paste response condescendingly explaining how uber works.


Despite clearly stating in his message that I get a cancellation fee if “a rider cancels on me after the 2 minute grace period”, ManasS still *apparently* reviewed the trip and decided a cancellation fee didn’t apply. This clearly was wrong. I spent 3-4 min driving to the rider. I was well on my way. The rider canceled. I get a cancellation fee for that. Your system did not automatically apply it. Your system, despite your continual claims, frequently does NOT automatically apply it. You make mistakes. Frequently.


So your system made the mistake. Then Manas made the mistake. Then I called Uber support.


Somehow I got connected with Adam (longer French name) in Casa Blanca. I spent 25 minutes arguing with Adam as he continued to insist a cancellation fee did not apply. He continually stated that it has to be 5 minutes. This is not the first time I’ve had this EXACT same situation. Your support technicians seem to get confused with the 5 minutes we must wait at a pickup to cancel on a rider. The language is very clear that for a rider to cancel on us, they must do it within two minutes or we get a cancellation fee.


I continually quoted the above message to Adam. He continually argued that I was wrong. He directed me to Uber’s help website. Finally on there I found the exact same message as this with even stronger language confirming that I was correct.


Adam STILL refused to admit he was wrong. After 30 something minutes on this, I finally was transferred to a colleague of his (soshan?).


Soshan was apparently more capable and quickly agreed that 2 minutes is the ticker for us to get a fee on pool and uberx if the pax cancels on us while we’re on the way.


Finally, I got my cancellation fee for this ride above.


This entire process took a phone call that lasted over an hour in addition to the support thread above.


For their incompetence Soshan offered me an additional $5 and said it was the most he is authorized to give. This amount is quite frankly insulting.


The minimum wage I’m sure you’re well aware of and you somehow skirt around (although not for much longer). But this phone call I had to pull over for at 1am ended up being an hour that I couldn’t drive. It also ruined any chance of making my $105 quest this weekend that I intended to pursue until 4am. And I got paid $5 for the hour (not counting my expenses).


You are welcome to listen to the phone call in its entirety. In fact I encourage it. I was promised an email/callback from a supervisor on the American uber support team.


I would like at the very least to be given my $105 quest for the weekend.


This feels like the kind of story that would play very well in the press about the continual gross incompetence of Uber as a company, how neglected its drivers are, how gut-wrenching and tooth-pulling of a process getting appropriate compensation is, etc.


I’ve had it up to here. I will state that very clearly.


Your support experience is designed to make drivers quit in submission and give up on compensation they deserve. It is insulting beyond belief and an absolute mockery.


I would like it to be made VERY CLEAR to all support technicians that the time is TWO MINUTES for riders to cancel on us. I would like to be compensated for this outrageous ordeal. And I would like a response and apology for you treating drivers with such disdain.
 

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Just sent this message to uber support. Have at it.

Please forward the below message to your Uber American support concierge. Court if possible assisted with my last concern. (415) 569- **** is her desk.

I wanted to put this all in writing so I can be sure it's communicated very clearly.

You can see I messaged in about this 10:52 trip above.

As you can see, ManasS gave me your standard: a copy and paste response condescendingly explaining how uber works.

Despite clearly stating in his message that I get a cancellation fee if "a rider cancels on me after the 2 minute grace period", ManasS still *apparently* reviewed the trip and decided a cancellation fee didn't apply. This clearly was wrong. I spent 3-4 min driving to the rider. I was well on my way. The rider canceled. I get a cancellation fee for that. Your system did not automatically apply it. Your system, despite your continual claims, frequently does NOT automatically apply it. You make mistakes. Frequently.

So your system made the mistake. Then Manas made the mistake. Then I called Uber support.

Somehow I got connected with Adam (longer French name) in Casa Blanca. I spent 25 minutes arguing with Adam as he continued to insist a cancellation fee did not apply. He continually stated that it has to be 5 minutes. This is not the first time I've had this EXACT same situation. Your support technicians seem to get confused with the 5 minutes we must wait at a pickup to cancel on a rider. The language is very clear that for a rider to cancel on us, they must do it within two minutes or we get a cancellation fee.

I continually quoted the above message to Adam. He continually argued that I was wrong. He directed me to Uber's help website. Finally on there I found the exact same message as this with even stronger language confirming that I was correct.

Adam STILL refused to admit he was wrong. After 30 something minutes on this, I finally was transferred to a colleague of his (soshan?).

Soshan was apparently more capable and quickly agreed that 2 minutes is the ticker for us to get a fee on pool and uberx if the pax cancels on us while we're on the way.

Finally, I got my cancellation fee for this ride above.

This entire process took a phone call that lasted over an hour in addition to the support thread above.

For their incompetence Soshan offered me an additional $5 and said it was the most he is authorized to give. This amount is quite frankly insulting.

The minimum wage I'm sure you're well aware of and you somehow skirt around (although not for much longer). But this phone call I had to pull over for at 1am ended up being an hour that I couldn't drive. It also ruined any chance of making my $105 quest this weekend that I intended to pursue until 4am. And I got paid $5 for the hour (not counting my expenses).

You are welcome to listen to the phone call in its entirety. In fact I encourage it. I was promised an email/callback from a supervisor on the American uber support team.

I would like at the very least to be given my $105 quest for the weekend.

This feels like the kind of story that would play very well in the press about the continual gross incompetence of Uber as a company, how neglected its drivers are, how gut-wrenching and tooth-pulling of a process getting appropriate compensation is, etc.

I've had it up to here. I will state that very clearly.

Your support experience is designed to make drivers quit in submission and give up on compensation they deserve. It is insulting beyond belief and an absolute mockery.

I would like it to be made VERY CLEAR to all support technicians that the time is TWO MINUTES for riders to cancel on us. I would like to be compensated for this outrageous ordeal. And I would like a response and apology for you treating drivers with such disdain.
NO BUENO !
 

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Just sent this message to uber support. Have at it.

Please forward the below message to your Uber American support concierge. Court if possible assisted with my last concern. (415) 569- **** is her desk.

I wanted to put this all in writing so I can be sure it's communicated very clearly.

You can see I messaged in about this 10:52 trip above.

As you can see, ManasS gave me your standard: a copy and paste response condescendingly explaining how uber works.

Despite clearly stating in his message that I get a cancellation fee if "a rider cancels on me after the 2 minute grace period", ManasS still *apparently* reviewed the trip and decided a cancellation fee didn't apply. This clearly was wrong. I spent 3-4 min driving to the rider. I was well on my way. The rider canceled. I get a cancellation fee for that. Your system did not automatically apply it. Your system, despite your continual claims, frequently does NOT automatically apply it. You make mistakes. Frequently.

So your system made the mistake. Then Manas made the mistake. Then I called Uber support.

Somehow I got connected with Adam (longer French name) in Casa Blanca. I spent 25 minutes arguing with Adam as he continued to insist a cancellation fee did not apply. He continually stated that it has to be 5 minutes. This is not the first time I've had this EXACT same situation. Your support technicians seem to get confused with the 5 minutes we must wait at a pickup to cancel on a rider. The language is very clear that for a rider to cancel on us, they must do it within two minutes or we get a cancellation fee.

I continually quoted the above message to Adam. He continually argued that I was wrong. He directed me to Uber's help website. Finally on there I found the exact same message as this with even stronger language confirming that I was correct.

Adam STILL refused to admit he was wrong. After 30 something minutes on this, I finally was transferred to a colleague of his (soshan?).

Soshan was apparently more capable and quickly agreed that 2 minutes is the ticker for us to get a fee on pool and uberx if the pax cancels on us while we're on the way.

Finally, I got my cancellation fee for this ride above.

This entire process took a phone call that lasted over an hour in addition to the support thread above.

For their incompetence Soshan offered me an additional $5 and said it was the most he is authorized to give. This amount is quite frankly insulting.

The minimum wage I'm sure you're well aware of and you somehow skirt around (although not for much longer). But this phone call I had to pull over for at 1am ended up being an hour that I couldn't drive. It also ruined any chance of making my $105 quest this weekend that I intended to pursue until 4am. And I got paid $5 for the hour (not counting my expenses).

You are welcome to listen to the phone call in its entirety. In fact I encourage it. I was promised an email/callback from a supervisor on the American uber support team.

I would like at the very least to be given my $105 quest for the weekend.

This feels like the kind of story that would play very well in the press about the continual gross incompetence of Uber as a company, how neglected its drivers are, how gut-wrenching and tooth-pulling of a process getting appropriate compensation is, etc.

I've had it up to here. I will state that very clearly.

Your support experience is designed to make drivers quit in submission and give up on compensation they deserve. It is insulting beyond belief and an absolute mockery.

I would like it to be made VERY CLEAR to all support technicians that the time is TWO MINUTES for riders to cancel on us. I would like to be compensated for this outrageous ordeal. And I would like a response and apology for you treating drivers with such disdain.
You wasted an hour where you could of made more than that $5 cancel fee of which they take $1/$1.80 to prove what that you are right like seriously dude what was your point in all of this?
 

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When Uber doesn't pay, don't argue with Rohit. Shuffle some pool.

The great roadman (peace be upon him) once said "The most profitable rides are the ones you don't take at all".
Ah yes I believe was in the Good Book of Shuffling Chapter 3 verse 2 "Fear not my child for one failure to pay results in a week of shuffling for those who shalt waste tho time" praise be his word!
 

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That's what Im saying. 3 shuffles fixes that quickly.

I'm trying to figure out what does Casa Blanca have to do with all this. I thought the Uber call centers were in Bangladesh or India.
I thought email was India and 'phone support' (such as it is) was Philippines
 

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what does Casa Blanca have to do with all this. I thought the Uber call centers were in Bangladesh or India.
Perhaps he thought that it was Casablanca because of the French name. Morocco used to be a French protectorate. I would suspect that it might have been India, as Fubar does have some sort of driver "support" in Pondicherry. Pondicherry was a French Dominion. France and Portugal had toe-holds in India. France returned Pondicherry to India de facto in the early to mid-1950s and de jure in the early 1960s. India had to expel Portugal from Goa by force-of-arms in the early 1960s. The British, of course, left India in 1947.
 

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Sorry. Maybe I wasn’t very clear about this

I posted this basically as a matter of principle and attempting to stick up for us drivers

First of all, Uber support continually tries to claim that riders have 5 minutes to cancel on us after requesting. They have 2 minutes. This is clear in all of their text. Yet I’ve had now multiple Uber support people convinced they have 5

Second it was more the principle and outrage of the experience. This was a perfect illustrator of how ****ed the support experience is. Money that was rightfully mine took me an hour to get. Of course it wasn’t worth it. No shit. But I’m gonna get what is owed to me

Finally SINCE it took an hour to get $5 basically and was such an abominable experience, I am going to be persistent as hell about speaking to someone in America and getting far more than the $5. I will get my $105 quest that I wasn’t gonna hit anyway. And continue to ream them and stick up for drivers and demand change.

If that doesn’t happen, I will go full roadman and have a day w at least 10 shuffles and earn it back that way.
 

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I thought email was India and 'phone support' (such as it is) was Philippines
When I called customer support, I've had people pick up with an Indian accent. I think Uber mixes and matches them both. I wouldnt be surprised if the call centers are made to multi task and write emails as well.

Sorry. Maybe I wasn't very clear about this

I posted this basically as a matter of principle and attempting to stick up for us drivers

First of all, Uber support continually tries to claim that riders have 5 minutes to cancel on us after requesting. They have 2 minutes. This is clear in all of their text. Yet I've had now multiple Uber support people convinced they have 5

Second it was more the principle and outrage of the experience. This was a perfect illustrator of how &%[email protected]!*ed the support experience is. Money that was rightfully mine took me an hour to get. Of course it wasn't worth it. No shit. But I'm gonna get what is owed to me

Finally SINCE it took an hour to get $5 basically and was such an abominable experience, I am going to be persistent as hell about speaking to someone in America and getting far more than the $5. I will get my $105 quest that I wasn't gonna hit anyway. And continue to ream them and stick up for drivers and demand change.

If that doesn't happen, I will go full roadman and have a day w at least 10 shuffles and earn it back that way.
The bold should be your goal anyways. A shuffle a day pays for 20+ dead miles. 2 shuffles pays for your lunch. 3 shuffles is equivalent to a ride.
 

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Why didn't you just shuffle everyone for the hour to make up for your loses?
I amazingly was sitting on Pennsylvania Avenue in dc and didn't get a ping for the 30 min I was sitting there. Oh well. Believe me. I will set shuffle records if they don't respond to me about this

Oh and yes the guy said he was in Casablanca Morocco I guess. Maybe I accidentally hit the French support line. Idk lol.

Their email to me said "message de uber" also lol. So that's probably what happened. I think I was so furious I called support and hit 3 to choose trip related issues before the robot even said hello so maybe it directed me to French support. Or maybe they're just so incompetent sometimes they send your call to Moroccan French morons

I usually get Indian sounding people 90% of the time. I have had lately some that sounded Hispanic and those actually usually were much more helpful/ willing to resolve issues quickly
 
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