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This topic has been done to death. I will summarise:
  • Taxis were a heavily regulated industry that included being self-regulated which caused the service problems.
  • When they were owner-operated they did do well and everything was in cash. (do you pay my wages?- Serge)
  • Taxi drivers then learned quickly that most of them did own their homes but had no super. That's when it all went downhill.
  • The owner-operators then used the base network to manage their plates and find drivers.
  • Drivers were told anything to get them driving including cherry-picking the rides (you don't pay my wages I do what I want - Serge)
  • BO and talking about Middle Eastern Politics and Opec became the norm. (happens in Uber I know)
  • Every decision to do with pricing eg EFTPOS, Tolls, Ride Selection gave control to the taxi driver.
  • Uber reversed that.
 

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This topic has been done to death. I will summarise:
  • Taxis were a heavily regulated industry that included being self-regulated which caused the service problems.
  • When they were owner-operated they did do well and everything was in cash. (do you pay my wages?- Serge)
  • Taxi drivers then learned quickly that most of them did own their homes but had no super. That's when it all went downhill.
  • The owner-operators then used the base network to manage their plates and find drivers.
  • Drivers were told anything to get them driving including cherry-picking the rides (you don't pay my wages I do what I want - Serge)
  • BO and talking about Middle Eastern Politics and Opec became the norm. (happens in Uber I know)
  • Every decision to do with pricing eg EFTPOS, Tolls, Ride Selection gave control to the taxi driver.
  • Uber reversed that.
Total crap. As soon as I read the first paragraph I soon realised you don't have a clue.
A regulated industry just doesn't happen overnight, it takes many years to accumulate as and when circumstances dictates.
The one thing worse than regulation is no regulation.
 

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As soon as I read the first paragraph I soon realised you don't have a clue.
Really , you want to try me, what part of my points was I wrong?. There is a reason why it's regulated so the govt always has control and its an essential service.
I can even tell you the time the HQ had to be traded in and the drivers did not want to or do you want me to tell you about yellow cabs in Rushcutters bay or who helped design the valves so that Palm Beach could get a signal for Manly Cabs.
Or do you want to hear about 60s crime figures who controlled the cabs at one stage or how Australias richest developer also had 5 licences? Try me,!
The point I was making big boy was that because of the regulators and the participants the service level went to the pots. That's why it was ripe for disruption. Like the lawyers who charged scale fee for conveyancing which was a rort.
 

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Really , you want to try me, what part of my points was I wrong?. There is a reason why it's regulated so the govt always has control and its an essential service.
I can even tell you the time the HQ had to be traded in and the drivers did not want to or do you want me to tell you about yellow cabs in Rushcutters bay or who helped design the valves so that Palm Beach could get a signal for Manly Cabs.
Or do you want to hear about 60s crime figures who controlled the cabs at one stage or how Australias richest developer also had 5 licences? Try me,!
The point I was making big boy was that because of the regulators and the participants the service level went to the pots. That's why it was ripe for disruption. Like the lawyers who charged scale fee for conveyancing which was a rort.
As a career driver i have seen and heard all the propaganda by large corporations like Uber utilising mass media marketing to suggest to the general public regulated Taxis are monopolies trading with antiquated outdated practices.
Currently in London Uber have lost its licence for the second time in as many years due to regulation issues.
Uber business model is toxic from top to bottom.
You say regulation is for government control, more crap.
London taxis have had one London cab driver convicted of sexual rape and assault in150 years.
Uber in London alone according to the metropolitan police are receiving one sexual rape and assault by an Uber driver every seven days.
Regulation antiquated, yeah right pal.
 

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As a career driver i have seen and heard all the propaganda by large corporations like Uber utilising mass media marketing to suggest to the general public regulated Taxis are monopolies trading with antiquated outdated practices.
Currently in London Uber have lost its licence for the second time in as many years due to regulation issues.
Uber business model is toxic from top to bottom.
You say regulation is for government control, more crap.
London taxis have had one London cab driver convicted of sexual rape and assault in150 years.
Uber in London alone according to the metropolitan police are receiving one sexual rape and assault by an Uber driver every seven days.
Regulation antiquated, yeah right pal.
So if the Taxi industry was so efficient why the rise and take-up of Rideshare so quickly was it a fluke?
So if taxi were not regulated then what will we have unlimited licences?. You don't know what you're talking about career driver of what Donkeys? London Uber was about rideshare mishaps that were not being reported.
If you are such are market wizard how would you solve the Taxi problem? Maybe go back to horse and cart like Cobb and Co>?
 

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So if the Taxi industry was so efficient why the rise and take-up of Rideshare so quickly was it a fluke?
So if taxi were not regulated then what will we have unlimited licences?. You don't know what you're talking about career driver of what Donkeys? London Uber was about rideshare mishaps that were not being reported.
If you are such are market wizard how would you solve the Taxi problem? Maybe go back to horse and cart like Cobb and Co>?
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Lobbying, nothing more than lobbying mixed with a little technology.
Take away app technology, what are you left with a man following a satellite navigation tool and getting that wrong in London all the bloody time.
London Taxis have been at the forefront of technology. London Taxis were the first to utilise computers fitted into taxis back in the 1960s.
London Taxis had app technology (Hailo, Gett.) many years before Uber lobbied their way into London, those apps were doing so well, just by word of mouth until Uber rode into town.
The main reason for ride sharing popularity is the billions of dollars subsidies on each and every ride by Uber and alike killing off competition. We are all aware on last years Uber global losses, running around $7 billions.
I'm amused by your comment about Ubers mishaps.
Shall I remind you the history of Ubers mishaps, one at a time.
Really , you want to try me, what part of my points was I wrong?. There is a reason why it's regulated so the govt always has control and its an essential service.
I can even tell you the time the HQ had to be traded in and the drivers did not want to or do you want me to tell you about yellow cabs in Rushcutters bay or who helped design the valves so that Palm Beach could get a signal for Manly Cabs.
Or do you want to hear about 60s crime figures who controlled the cabs at one stage or how Australias richest developer also had 5 licences? Try me,!
The point I was making big boy was that because of the regulators and the participants the service level went to the pots. That's why it was ripe for disruption. Like the lawyers who charged scale fee for conveyancing which was a rort.
Do you have any figures on how much Tax Uber has paid to date in Australia.
 

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So if the Taxi industry was so efficient why the rise and take-up of Rideshare so quickly was it a fluke?
So if taxi were not regulated then what will we have unlimited licences?. You don't know what you're talking about career driver of what Donkeys? London Uber was about rideshare mishaps that were not being reported.
If you are such are market wizard how would you solve the Taxi problem? Maybe go back to horse and cart like Cobb and Co>?
Uber rose initially on price and service but then grew mainstream on price alone. The whole 'screw the taxis had it too good for too long' was justification for paying peanuts.

The Uber business model places the risk and costs on the driver allowing it to expand rapidly and with relatively little cost to get thousands of cars on the road in a given jurisdiction.

Uber despite claiming losses every year (clever accounting? Or execs earning too much?) will continue to grow and thrive and will lobby hard to get regulations in place that will make it harder for other rideshare companies to start up in an area.

The biggest risk to Uber I see is self driving cars, surely Uber will not take on the risk of actually owning and insuring these vehicles. The cars will have to be independently owned and with the driverless car comes expectations of lower fares. Add to that Uber creating its own self drive software that it will likely charge operators large sums to install and subscribe to and Uber may face a situation whereby it cannot get enough cars on the road.
 

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Uber rose initially on price and service but then grew mainstream on price alone. The whole 'screw the taxis had it too good for too long' was justification for paying peanuts.

The Uber business model places the risk and costs on the driver allowing it to expand rapidly and with relatively little cost to get thousands of cars on the road in a given jurisdiction.

Uber despite claiming losses every year (clever accounting? Or execs earning too much?) will continue to grow and thrive and will lobby hard to get regulations in place that will make it harder for other rideshare companies to start up in an area.

The biggest risk to Uber I see is self driving cars, surely Uber will not take on the risk of actually owning and insuring these vehicles. The cars will have to be independently owned and with the driverless car comes expectations of lower fares. Add to that Uber creating its own self drive software that it will likely charge operators large sums to install and subscribe to and Uber may face a situation whereby it cannot get enough cars on the road.
Uber rose initially on price and service but then grew mainstream on price alone. The whole 'screw the taxis had it too good for too long' was justification for paying peanuts.

The Uber business model places the risk and costs on the driver allowing it to expand rapidly and with relatively little cost to get thousands of cars on the road in a given jurisdiction.

Uber despite claiming losses every year (clever accounting? Or execs earning too much?) will continue to grow and thrive and will lobby hard to get regulations in place that will make it harder for other rideshare companies to start up in an area.

The biggest risk to Uber I see is self driving cars, surely Uber will not take on the risk of actually owning and insuring these vehicles. The cars will have to be independently owned and with the driverless car comes expectations of lower fares. Add to that Uber creating its own self drive software that it will likely charge operators large sums to install and subscribe to and Uber may face a situation whereby it cannot get enough cars on the road.
You have said nothing new that Uber media campaigners have said many times before to city regulators.
Rather than me waste my time talking about a toxic corporation, maybe an independent article would explain better.

 

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Do you have any figures on how much Tax Uber has paid to date in Australia?
this was an old article and it has some truth I am not denying that.
But I know you don't drive. The reason why is none of your responses is to do with the Taxi industry and the numbers.
The taxi industry is going nowhere. It will be with us forever it is an essential service. Uber has used an old model that was used the same way to fund the Motion Picture industry and Leveraged Buyouts. Study Ivan Boesky.
I did not think your time was worth much so I don't feel I am wasting anything but a trolls brain cells. Also, are you doing your HSC at the moment?
Why don't you go and join a political party and then you will be able to use your adjective of Toxic more often instead of trolling our forums.
You still have not pointed out to me what part of the post was infactual>? Fortnite is waiting. You should try Ly adverbs they will make you feel smarter. eg: Obviously,
 

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I am indeed a London cabbie, who studied the knowledge, probably longer than you have been driving for Uber.
When you mentioned the taxi industry going nowhere, I am assuming you are not including Uber in that category.
Predatory pricing in most countries is illegal and controversial, Uber dominance has only been brought about by that factor alone, subsidies paid for by shareholders to destroy competition to then to create a monopoly for-which hypocritical, Uber claimed was the domain of regulated taxis.
 

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So if the Taxi industry was so efficient why the rise and take-up of Rideshare so quickly was it a fluke?
So if taxi were not regulated then what will we have unlimited licences?. You don't know what you're talking about career driver of what Donkeys? London Uber was about rideshare mishaps that were not being reported.
If you are such are market wizard how would you solve the Taxi problem? Maybe go back to horse and cart like Cobb and Co>?
More ride share mishaps.

So if the Taxi industry was so efficient why the rise and take-up of Rideshare so quickly was it a fluke?
So if taxi were not regulated then what will we have unlimited licences?. You don't know what you're talking about career driver of what Donkeys? London Uber was about rideshare mishaps that were not being reported.
If you are such are market wizard how would you solve the Taxi problem? Maybe go back to horse and cart like Cobb and Co>?
Even more ride share mishaps, as you like to call them.
 

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This topic has been done to death. I will summarise:
  • Taxis were a heavily regulated industry that included being self-regulated which caused the service problems.
  • When they were owner-operated they did do well and everything was in cash. (do you pay my wages?- Serge)
  • Taxi drivers then learned quickly that most of them did own their homes but had no super. That's when it all went downhill.
  • The owner-operators then used the base network to manage their plates and find drivers.
  • Drivers were told anything to get them driving including cherry-picking the rides (you don't pay my wages I do what I want - Serge)
  • BO and talking about Middle Eastern Politics and Opec became the norm. (happens in Uber I know)
  • Every decision to do with pricing eg EFTPOS, Tolls, Ride Selection gave control to the taxi driver.
  • Uber reversed that.
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This topic has been done to death. I will summarise:
  • Taxis were a heavily regulated industry that included being self-regulated which caused the service problems.
  • When they were owner-operated they did do well and everything was in cash. (do you pay my wages?- Serge)
  • Taxi drivers then learned quickly that most of them did own their homes but had no super. That's when it all went downhill.
  • The owner-operators then used the base network to manage their plates and find drivers.
  • Drivers were told anything to get them driving including cherry-picking the rides (you don't pay my wages I do what I want - Serge)
  • BO and talking about Middle Eastern Politics and Opec became the norm. (happens in Uber I know)
  • Every decision to do with pricing eg EFTPOS, Tolls, Ride Selection gave control to the taxi driver.
  • Uber reversed that.
There's plenty of cabbies that don't have any superannuation, myself included.....but the cabbies I associate with, each have around 5 to 7 investment properties in the eastern suburbs.

I think property is a better super option than the average Joe blows super ?

There's a smiggin of truths in what you are stating above...but I'm not here to argue with waingro or with UK forum member.

All good.
 

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You have said nothing new that Uber media campaigners have said many times before to city regulators.
Rather than me waste my time talking about a toxic corporation, maybe an independent article would explain better.

So now that you are confirming that you are a bored Troll that is the end of our association. Good luck and have a look at where you will end up ...in the dust bin.
Good luck with your HSC
Working for a corporation like Uber with no morals and very shy of ethics, it's you who need the best of luck. Like most gig economies regulation slowly catches up with them as we have seen over the last few years.

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There's plenty of cabbies that don't have any superannuation, myself included.....but the cabbies I associate with, each have around 5 to 7 investment properties in the eastern suburbs.

I think property is a better super option than the average Joe blows super ?

There's a smiggin of truths in what you are stating above...but I'm not here to argue with waingro or with UK forum member.

All good.
It seems as time goes by, the standard of living for mini cab drivers has diminished slowly but surely.
Uber's domineering predatory practices has seen to that.
All drivers have seen a drop in profits as the popularity rises and more drivers from all sorts of backgrounds sign up.
 
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