[UberReallySucks]

Lyft just announced a 10% Price cut for the San Diego market.

Surely Uber will only be too happy to follow suit... It looks like we're looking at a $ 1.00 /mile for the 4th most expensive city in the US.

The only drivers that can afford driving for Uber / Lyft in San Diego now are the Tijuana drivers.

 

[Horsebm]

I hope Uber will not follow suit. With all the new drivers on the road, I have noticed a reduction in my daily revenues. A price reduction is the last thing we need.

 

[UberReallySucks]

Tell me about it... For me that would be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I can guarantee you that UBER will follow suit... They both have been playing this war way too long for them to stop now.

 

[Bill Feit]

I understand Uber is taking 30% commission from new drivers here now...right? There is no way that new driver can make any money at the current 1.10 mile let alone do it at 1.00 and only have .70 after commission. I understand current driver monthly turnover here in SD County is now approaching 58%. New drivers should know they are headed for losses and tell Uber they will not give away their time.!

 

[merkurfan]

I understand Uber is taking 30% commission from new drivers here now...right? There is no way that new driver can make any money at the current 1.10 mile let alone do it at 1.00 and only have .70 after commission. I understand current driver monthly turnover here in SD County is now approaching 58%. New drivers should know they are headed for losses and tell Uber they will not give away their time.!

Uber don't care. as long as they still go out and log on to the app.

 

[UberReallySucks]

I understand Uber is taking 30% commission from new drivers here now...right? There is no way that new driver can make any money at the current 1.10 mile let alone do it at 1.00 and only have .70 after commission. I understand current driver monthly turnover here in SD County is now approaching 58%. New drivers should know they are headed for losses and tell Uber they will not give away their time.!

Actually, Uber is taking 30% for first 15 rides 25% second 15 and 20 % the third 15 + rides in a week fr new drivers in San Diego... so now just to get to the 20% cut feels like a reward that you have to earn... 1. you have to drive more - wait longer - settle for the cheap rides that nobody wanted ... so, like in everything else they do, Uber managed to get even more deviously "creative" in how they screw their new "partners"...

 

[UberReallySucks]

The new face of UberX in SD.

 

[scott]

It doesn't equate to any net income!
Yes your generating dollars but after real expenses your loosing real money ...
As they say robbing Peter to pay Paul!

 

[scott]

It was profitable for the driver a couple of years ago .... Today it doesn't make sense .

 

[BostonTaxiDriver]

It was profitable for the driver a couple of years ago .... Today it doesn't make sense .

But, but, hey, riders from San Francisco in my Boston cab tonight said Uber drivers do really well in THAT town. The Uber propaganda continues to spread, even in late 2015.

 

[UberReallySucks]

But, but, hey, riders from San Francisco in my Boston cab tonight said Uber drivers do really well in THAT town. The Uber propaganda continues to spread, even in late 2015.

Sadly enough, I was told the same thing by paxs from San Fran. That it was even their drivers that told them they were making a 100K/year driving for Guber.

 

[Don Oldenburg]

I understand Uber is taking 30% commission from new drivers here now...right? There is no way that new driver can make any money at the current 1.10 mile let alone do it at 1.00 and only have .70 after commission. I understand current driver monthly turnover here in SD County is now approaching 58%. New drivers should know they are headed for losses and tell Uber they will not give away their time.!

So much for being independent contractors! If we were really IC's as both UBER and LYFT claim -- we should be able negotiate commissions.

I wouldn't have a problem with lowering prices to get more riders -- it's a valid sales strategy, but reduce the commission to compensate for the difference in the price so we don't loose additional money out of our pockets. Trickle down affect doesn't work!!!

Right now, all they are doing is slamming us with cheap fares.. we may be 10% busier, with people taking advantage of cheaper fares, but we lost 10% revenue... So we make the same, but work harder. Uber gets the same $$ as well.. So, what is the point????

THE POINT, IN MY OPINION -- These tactics do one thing... Increase the number of customers. Which looks great on a corporate IPO -- the more customers ("Assets") the company has the more it's worth.

 

[Txchick]

So much for being independent contractors! If we were really IC's as both UBER and LYFT claim -- we should be able negotiate commissions.

I wouldn't have a problem with lowering prices to get more riders -- it's a valid sales strategy, but reduce the commission to compensate for the difference in the price so we don't loose additional money out of our pockets. Trickle down affect doesn't work!!!

Right now, all they are doing is slamming us with cheap fares.. we may be 10% busier, with people taking advantage of cheaper fares, but we lost 10% revenue... So we make the same, but work harder. Uber gets the same $$ as well.. So, what is the point????

THE POINT, IN MY OPINION -- These tactics do one thing... Increase the number of customers. Which looks great on a corporate IPO -- the more customers ("Assets") the company has the more it's worth.

But how many new pax is Uber gaining at low rates or is it current pax taking additional rides. Uber never puts those numbers out there. Can't cut your way to profitability.

 

[UberReallySucks]

So much for being independent contractors! If we were really IC's as both UBER and LYFT claim -- we should be able negotiate commissions.

I wouldn't have a problem with lowering prices to get more riders -- it's a valid sales strategy, but reduce the commission to compensate for the difference in the price so we don't loose additional money out of our pockets. Trickle down affect doesn't work!!!

Right now, all they are doing is slamming us with cheap fares.. we may be 10% busier, with people taking advantage of cheaper fares, but we lost 10% revenue... So we make the same, but work harder. Uber gets the same $$ as well.. So, what is the point????

THE POINT, IN MY OPINION -- These tactics do one thing... Increase the number of customers. Which looks great on a corporate IPO -- the more customers ("Assets") the company has the more it's worth.

First and Foremost, why would a "Technology" company be allowed to set rates anyway for transportation purposes? I can see how they can get away with the commission part because of their software licensing claims but Guber and Co. should have never been allowed to operate the way they did, completely unchecked and unregulated in one of the most heavily regulated industries in the world.
This is like giving little kids loaded guns and expect them to stay and everyone around them safe.

 

[UberReallySucks]

But how many new pax is Uber gaining at low rates or is it current pax taking additional rides. Uber never puts those numbers out there. Can't cut your way to profitability.

The real dirty truth about how many new paxs Uber or Lyft are gaining??? Not many. As 99 % of the paxs don't even know how much is the cost per mile nor do they care... They're gaining more new paxs from referrals and free rides codes than anything else. I've heard a lot of people saying, I'm trying Uber for the first time today because someone told me about it or because I got a free ride, but I never heard anyone say I'm trying Uber today for the first time because it was 0.95 cents / mile

 

[merkurfan]

So much for being independent contractors! If we were really IC's as both UBER and LYFT claim -- we should be able negotiate commissions.

I wouldn't have a problem with lowering prices to get more riders -- it's a valid sales strategy, but reduce the commission to compensate for the difference in the price so we don't loose additional money out of our pockets. Trickle down affect doesn't work!!!

Right now, all they are doing is slamming us with cheap fares.. we may be 10% busier, with people taking advantage of cheaper fares, but we lost 10% revenue... So we make the same, but work harder. Uber gets the same $$ as well.. So, what is the point????

THE POINT, IN MY OPINION -- These tactics do one thing... Increase the number of customers. Which looks great on a corporate IPO -- the more customers ("Assets") the company has the more it's worth.

The low fares=higher user ship has one flaw for the drivers that uber fails to understand or care about..

Uber's computer can process rides at breakneck speeds..
Drivers can not. There is a limit to how many miles they can shove in to an hour, that limit will be 20-30 miles in an hour on a good day.. Until uber finds a way to break the laws of physics it will remain this way.

But as long as uber can shove more rides/payments through their system. They are happy as can be as long as the lower rate and higher commissions charged looks good for the IPO.

 

[merkurfan]

Just a random question..

What if uber said "ok, no set prices. Drivers can agree to a riders offer or decline it"

Do you think the rider offers would be higher than your current market rate set by uber or lower?

Do you think other drivers in your market would likely accept offers LOWER than ubers current market rate?

I for one think 1 would be lower and 2 would be Yes.

 

[Bill Feit]

Actually, Uber is taking 30% for first 15 rides 25% second 15 and 20 % the third 15 + rides in a week fr new drivers in San Diego... so now just to get to the 20% cut feels like a reward that you have to earn... 1. you have to drive more - wait longer - settle for the cheap rides that nobody wanted ... so, like in everything else they do, Uber managed to get even more deviously "creative" in how they screw their new "partners"...

Wow...that is bad. I only do this 25-35 hours a week but I only average about 25 rides a week...I would never make it to the 20% level. As on other driver from Cold Country noted physics/time only allows so many rides per hour even if you take all min $4.00 fares you can probably only do 4/hr...Uber needs to wake up. Did you see what they are doing to Dallas Black Drivers? They are making them also take X rides....the reason is they do not have enough X drivers...figure that will you? If they would allow X drivers to make money they would have all the drivers they need!!

 

[UberReallySucks]

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Wow...that is bad. I only do this 25-35 hours a week but I only average about 25 rides a week...I would never make it to the 20% level. As on other driver from Cold Country noted physics/time only allows so many rides per hour even if you take all min $4.00 fares you can probably only do 4/hr...Uber needs to wake up. Did you see what they are doing to Dallas Black Drivers? They are making them also take X rides....the reason is they do not have enough X drivers...figure that will you? If they would allow X drivers to make money they would have all the drivers they need!!

AT the end of the day, UberX will ultimately be Uber's Bread and butter... What they did in Dallas was so wrong on so many levels it would take me all day to address it all. But the good thing about the Dallas drivers is they got together, protested and got that decision reversed somewhat, where now it is completely OPTIONAL for Uber Black drivers to take the X requests and they will not be penalized if they chose not to.

All Uber needs is for a united body to stand up to it. They will back off each and every time. Unfortunately, what we're seeing in so many markets is drivers taking the beating and not really saying anything ... they just wake up earlier the next day and try to work longer to make the same money or less.

 

[Bill Feit]

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AT the end of the day, UberX will ultimately be Uber's Bread and butter... What they did in Dallas was so wrong on so many levels it would take me all day to address it all. But the good thing about the Dallas drivers is they got together, protested and got that decision reversed somewhat, where now it is completely OPTIONAL for Uber Black drivers to take the X requests and they will not be penalized if they chose not to.

All Uber needs is for a united body to stand up to it. They will back off each and every time. Unfortunately, what we're seeing in so many markets is drivers taking the beating and not really saying anything ... they just wake up earlier the next day and try to work longer to make the same money or less.

I would agree with what you are saying if it were not so damn easy for them to get new drivers and pay them nothing. I would NEVER have signed up to drive Uber at the current rates you posted...why does anyone think they will make money doing it? As long as they can add drivers for every one who quits and do it at higher commission levels then they will not listen to anything we do. Quit would be their suggestion! My hourly rate has declined from about $23/hr 3 months ago to about $15/hr working same methods, locations, etc. and that is without a rate cut. I am about to quit too!