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I need more info on this. Is $4.07 for 4 minutes & 1 mile cheap?

Or $8 for 15 minutes & 12 miles cheap?

I just saw a $4 for 8 minutes & 3 miles.

Define the cheap. Cuz id love to join you but $1 per min and over $1/mile isnt exactly cheap.

$4 for 12 minutes and 6 miles is cheap to me.
 
The payout. I try never to take anything less than $8, but I never take anything less than $5.
This is an interesting system. Id like to know more. How effective is it? Daily payout avg? Miles driven? And time, online & active?

The only reason i dont consider it cheap is because its $4 for 4mins driving about 1 mile.
I see it as $1/min @ $4/mile.

This is literally bad advice. So let’s say i was doing Uber eats and I got a $6.50 request for 1.5 miles and you know you can complete the request in 10 minutes or less because there is little traffic around you and the restaurant usually has the food ready right away?
This guy catches my drift. At $6.50 hes working the equivalent of a $36+/hr job. Granted its only for 10 mins. If he can get it done faster its even more. Do it in 6-7 mins and ur doing the $4 ride at $1/min.

Right. Why wait for an order with a higher payout and only a slightly longer, or possibly even shorter, completion time when you could just waste ten minutes, which we all know could easily turn into twenty or thirty minutes, completing a $6.50 delivery?
I've taken a few lately since it's been so slow in my market, but I generally reject them.
Shouldve, couldve, wouldve. The thing is we arent really guaranteed well be offered a great trip next. So when u see a good one u should take it. Ive ignored good trips because i thought id get better ones and im stuck waiting for 30 minutes for the same 10 min ride. Had i taken the first one id be back to take the 2nd one.

IMO, the name of the game is avoid down time. But also dont settle for cheap shit.

If you were a block away fine.

If you drove 5 miles and 10 minutes to pickup then not so much.
it took 1 minute to reach pax. Block and half away. He was waiting. Took 3 minutes to drop off. Uber had it at $4 for 7 minutes. Based of locations i knew i could do it in less than 4 so i took it. That gps sometimes thinks certain routes are better. Theyre not.

it might literally be 10 or more minutes these days to see an offer that beats that one, let alone any other offer

delivery has slowed down in all markets. That’s my point. Maybe in the Covid days you could be more picky. But not today.

I’d take it. Unless I was sitting on a surge for Lyft.
Yes. I would too. Funny, I did shop and deliver once. $15 for 20 minutes. 10 items. 1.5 miles total. My first time ... and last. Took me 1hr and 15 mins lol

They asked for 4 bananas turns out they needed to weigh 2lbs. Mine weigh 4lbs. So i spent a lot of time weighing shit. And then the gps took me to the wrong location. Customer didnt answer the door. It was a horrible experience that i shut that shit off. So because of that i dont do UE either anymore lol im sure u get better at fixing those mistakes but i like not getting out of my car lol
 
Honestly, my daily payouts are inconsistent af. It's frustrating not having that security of knowing roughly how much you're going to make each day. But before all this economic chaos started with this pandemic-caused inflation and all, it was very good. These days, I work a few different apps so I'm able to pay my bills.
My daily mileage is super low. I couldn't give you an exact figure because I don't keep track of that, but I'd say I keep it under fifty most days. I don't do a lot of dead driving and I don't take many long-distance offers.
I'm online pretty much all day, but active for only a tiny portion of that. I turn down most offers that I receive.

Now that $4/mile trip might not seem cheap if you just look at the ratio. But look at the total payout. You're only making $4. It's not worth starting your car for. And what are you gonna do afterward, keep your engine running until the next one that pays $4/mile?
Gotcha. Lets see then.

I usually put in about 100 dead miles daily and work about 100 miles. Just because I chose to live in an area with cheap rent. In my experience LA is the only area i know off where i can work for $2 or more per mile. IE where i am. Everything is about $1/mile or less. I havent seen a good surge since early may.

So now i have a time frame. Usually 11am to 9pm to work. Based on my schedule i can only work that time frame. And because i live so far theres no take a break go home and wait for high demand time cuz then id waste a lot of time. With that said the app is pretty much on from 11 to 9. M-F.

My AR currently is 10% and like u i take very little trips. But because of the dead miles i do everyday i try to get as many trips that pay $2 or more a mile with a $30/hr or more time frame. Which is why $4 for 7 mins at 1.2 miles isnt cheap to me. And im including pick up time and mileage.

Im driving a Tesla Model 3 because I own a Tesla Model 3. Short trips are ideal. If it wasnt for living 50 miles away id be doing only 100 miles daily or less. But also dont get me wrong i hate that the fare has dropped to 4.07 and i ignore most trips that are 4.07 for over 7 mins for 4 miles. Because i consider that cheap AF. No matter if i think i can do it in 4mins because thats 4 miles. F that.

Currently im avg $200+ daily. Actively working about 3 hours+. Online avg time of 8 hrs. My app is on on my Commute to LA 1 hr and on the way home to IE. 1 hr. The App is also usually on while I charge & eat usually 30 mins. Yesterday it was also on for about 40 minute at the airport lot. So im pretty much truly waiting for a ride for about 5 hrs. And 3 hrs actively. I wish i could be active all 5-8 hrs. But uber aint giving me shit on my commute. So i depend on reservations from IE to LAX every morning. To counter dead miles.

So u say start ur car for $4. My car is actively on lol. AC off minimal usage. Until the next ride. So going back. Because of the time frame.. every second im not making $$ is a waste of time for me. And every min spent making less that $1 minute is also a waste knowing that theres rides that pay better. Its a balance ive been trying to perfect for some time now. I believe im getting better at.

Trust i was doing a lot worse when i started. Probably making $200 and putting in 400 miles.

But you're still using you're car to chase small amounts of money.
True but in my situation as explained above. I got a time frame. If i dont do it and wait. Im hoping another better trip comes along. You could say it will, but are u guaranteed that trip will come along?

6.50 for 10 mins is here now. Ignore it. In 2 minutes U may get 6.50 for 5 mins next. Or $4.07 for 15 mins. Or hell u may not even get a trip for the next 10 mins. Then that 6.50 trip sounds real good lol.

My point is. The less time ur on a trip the more time is available for u to take another trip.
Make the most money possible in as little time possible with as little mileage possible so u can be free to take the next trip.

Avoid multiple stops, complicated pick ups, heavy traffic areas, dead zones, etc.
 
You're wasting your time by taking unprofitable rides. You're in business to make a profit, not to pick up pennies and nickels.
$4 for 4 mins at 1 mile is profit. I dare u to sit and wait for a ride that pays $60/hr at 15 miles.

In this time when the price of all goods and services is skyrocketing, what is not has increased is the price to ride Uber or Lyft. How does a fare like $4.53 or less can compensate the price of a vehicle costing $45 or more?? This situation really triggers drivers not to take cheap rides that don't compensate enough for the cost of a driver. Really it does.
If a ride cost $4 for more than 8 mins... its a waste of time especially if its more than 2 miles away. Thats the cheap ride you shouldnt do.

Would i love the base to be higher than $4, yeah. But i unfortunately don't have the time or patience to sit down and wait for that dream ride when i got rides in front of me. Plus thats the point of doing short rides. Get'em done quick so u can get back to waiting for that dream ride. Also! Usually those small rides, soon as i pick up im already being offered the next ride. I try not to take it because cant really tell while im driving but just yesterday soon as i picked up a ride i got another ride flash my screen $8 for 8 mins 2.5miles. Had i ognored rhe $4 i wouldve been down $4. Only driven 2 instead of 3.5 miles for $12.
 
I have to understand that? Really? Well, how do you turn a profit when you're only making as much as or even less than it costs you to work every time you give a ride? This isn't a regular job where you just show up and start making money for eight hours. Every ride or delivery we do is a separate job, and it costs us money every time.
I have yet to see anyone explain how much it costs us per ride to run our vehicle. Maybe thats why I'm not understanding. If someone were to say it costs us $4 just to run the car per ride then yeah im not making any profit and i should stop driving.

Im also interested in knowing ur daily payout if ur not doing $4 rides. Along with mileage to compare. U may be able to convince many with this info.

Four dollars per mile is a great ratio, but you're talking about a one-mile ride. That means you only earn $4. So you have to start your car, drive to the pick-up location, drive a mile, then turn off your car, and all you made was $4. Wouldn't you rather make $8 for 2 or even 3 miles?
Yeah but chances are higher ill get 2 $4 rides for 2 miles more often than an $8 ride for 2 miles. By the time i get that $8 dream, i wouldve skiped like 5-10 $4 trips. Wasted time just for $8? When i couldve had like $48 by then.

Also more rides ewual opportunity to make more tips. You increase ur chances. For example,

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$4 trip took me 5 mins. Just under a mile with pick up. Got that tip for $7 for 1 mile.

Better than $8 for 2 miles?
 
I get the impression you're not counting total trip time, to passenger pickup and to the passenger's destination drop off, sounds like you're just counting from pick up to drop off.
Im counting from the moment I accept a ride to the moment i end it. Sure theres a couple of rides that Pax makes me wait an extra 3 mins. For the major majority everyone on the short side are on the corner waiting. 1 minute before i arrive i usually send out the im here text. To speed em up. Usually i get a text back im here as i get there lol most of my $4 trips are either up the street around the block. When i see the trip come up ill only take it if its under 4 minutes or i can confidently make it in under 4 mins. I see the 7 min rides. 2 to pick up and 5 to drop off. And im like; u turn here and im there in 30 seconds. On pick up itll go from 5 mins to 4min.

The ETA sometimes is dumb. U just gotta know ur streets.

All I'm saying is every ride you give costs you money; so when you do a ride for $4, you haven't really made $4. You made $4 minus your running costs. What's left is your profit. Your profit is not what you earned at the end of the day, it's what you earned minus your running costs. Don't you want your profit to be as high as possible? I get that you're worried about leaving money on the table by not taking the $4 rides. If you get one that's under five minutes, that's great. But don't spend your time working for $4.



Yeah, it is. But does every $4 ride tip you three dollars?
I would love profit to be high. Thats why i asked how much am i losing by taking that $4 ride for 4 minutes at 1 mile. Is every ride i do costing me $4? Im just breaking even? If thats the case im losing money on every ride unless i get a rode thats paying 2 times the $$.

I dont like to base my earnings on tips cuz like u said not every ride is tipped. But i like to know that i increase my chances of tips the more rides i do.

Im not saying all i do is $4 rides. Ill take any ride worth doing. But im not gonna ognore the $4 rides when i know theyre as good as taking a $60/hr ride at 15 miles.
 
Just saw a $42 trip to LAX from riveside.
1.5 hrs to complete. 80 miles.

It showed up like 10 times under "outside your preferences" "seen"

I waited 5 minutes so that it would be priced higher. Then i saw...

"Another driver has taken the trip"

Lets see...
42/3 =14 x 2 = $28/hr for 53.33 miles
$14 for 30 mins at 26 miles
$7 for 15 mins at 12 miles
$3.50 for 7.5 min at 6 miles.

Doing the math to compare to the $4 trip.

Basically this dude just did a 7 minute trip for 6 miles @ $3.50.

While I did a 5 min trip for 1 mile for $4.

And you're gonna say yeah but he got $42 and u jist got $4. Cuz im not gonna take another ride for the next hour and 25 minutes lol

Why cant we say stop taking those cheap trips? Instead of getting mad at the $4 trips?
 
I would do that.





Not interested in that, either.




Not interested




I wouldn't run that 1, either.



5 for 5, OK. The farther it gets from 5 & the closer it gets to 10, the less I'm interested. 12's outta' the question. Not sorry, not interested, not happening.




Ya' gotta' consider all factors.




I don't do no del. but considering the time involved, I might do it.



You can get as little as $3.50 here.




While payouts to the drivers have DEcreased.





NOT another 1 of these.



They will have an effect on my bottom line b|c unlike you amateurs I'm a pro so I know my shit & know what I'm doing.





Uber Troll or Uber Shill. Don't expect too much from them.




The short trips are great if you're there butcha ' don't go running after them. Iffya ' kin' get there in a reasonable amount of time, good. If not, decline .



$250 min. for 80 mi.

I was talking to that mod. they fired for no reason the other day. He said Uber tried to get him to take a DC to NYC for 196 or 8 or something like that. We had a good laugh on that. He said it wouldda ' cost that in about 1981. He assured me he didn't accept it. In fact, he said Uber put him offline for it. Put offline for refusing to get Uber reamed. Wouldn'cha ' know it?
I like this guy
 
Ive changed my ways... ive come to learn from this forum and from others...

You have to have a minimum. $4 rides are not worth it at all. You wanna make money then stop taking these $4-7 rides. And start at $10+ at least.

There are rides that pay $10/1Mile. Hell, every ride can be that if u sweat uber long enough.

I think the major Issue is hourly Vs mileage. But it goes deeper than that. I met some guys who rent and are making over $200 daily consistantly. And when i see their stats they are at 80% AR. They are happy with their $20/hr or so.

And it all comes down to this... and its why renting a car is really bad for business. When you rent a car, u dont care about it. Youll drive it to the ground because its not yours. All u care about is making money quickly. So renting and waiting is not ideal becUse you are in debt. So you work with an hourly mentality. Youre being paid as an employee when u are not one. Suddenly a majority of people are renting and driving prices down while us cherry pickers are left to fight each other.

I used to think with this mentality of hourly and i realized... it aint worth it. Too many riders were either taking advantage of my time or rude, or just sketchy. I probably gave rides to homeless, i even gave a ride once to a guy who claimed he thought he was dying... i still cant believe that one. He had cancer and needed a ride to the hospital and didnt want to call an ambulance. So there i am making $20/hr with a potential dying guy in my back seat.

Im ranting now... but going back to my point.
As long as people are uneducated about rides/cherry picking and are renting cars...the fare will not get any better for us experienced drivers.

I used to think $4/4 minutes was good. Now id rather wait for $10/10 mins. Or $10 for 2 miles.
 
A 5 dollar 1 mile ride that takes 3 minutes to complete is okay to take, A 27 mile trip with 5 mile pickup for 26 dollars is not worth it.
Honestly doe... no.

I wouldve agreed with u before but now no.

I understand that ur getting $5 per mile but the $26 trip has the chance of u making a private client which will eventislly become a repeat and higher pay.

If u wanna keep uber as ur boss then yes $5/mile at $10-20/hr for 4 miles/hr... $100/day is worth it.
 
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