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Would you opt out of Pool if you could?

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Here in D.C. (and everywhere else) Pool is as popular as Obama at a Trump rally. I saw this thread about people successfully opting out of Pool. Anyone here in the D.C. area want to try it?

With the Metal Bonuses, I take shit Pool trips just to keep qualified. With the Gold Incentives they're not that bad $$$$. The minute they stop them, Pool (and quite probably Uber) are history to me.

https://uberpeople.net/threads/trying-to-opt-out.83937/
 

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if you're gold and up, I'd advise to take pools

I thought the main reason people hated pool was because it paid lower, but at 1.8x and 2.0x, not sure why people don't think its worthwhile

however give it a shot, I haven't heard of anybody successfully being able to opt out of pool rides in the DC market
 

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I met an Uber corporate software engineer who described how we get paid on pool.

Bottom line is we get pool rates for time and distance from start to finish, regardless of who gets in-out of the car when.

Then they divvy up the fares among the rides. So if pool ride A pays $9.00 and ride B pays $1.50, what that really tells us is from start to finish time and distance was worth $10.50 (and it will be arbitrarily divided into two payments).

He acknowledged that calling one of the rides $1.50 is bad optics and leaves a bad taste. They will probably fix that.

We didn't get to how differential in surge rates affect the calculations. But for newbies reading this, we've all figured out that matched pools at a lower surge dillute (reduce) the higher surge rate and therefore lower total earnings and should be avoided.
 

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I met an Uber corporate software engineer who described how we get paid on pool.

Bottom line is we get pool rates for time and distance from start to finish, regardless of who gets in-out of the car when.

Then they divvy up the fares among the rides. So if pool ride A pays $9.00 and ride B pays $1.50, what that really tells us is from start to finish time and distance was worth $10.50 (and it will be arbitrarily divided into two payments).

He acknowledged that calling one of the rides $1.50 is bad optics and leaves a bad taste. They will probably fix that.

We didn't get to how differential in surge rates affect the calculations. But for newbies reading this, we've all figured out that matched pools at a lower surge dillute (reduce) the higher surge rate and therefore lower total earnings and should be avoided.
Well stated, GGDaddy. Thanks for sharing. I think most drivers would like to have faith in the time/mileage calculations from the time pax get in the car to the time they exit. Seems like it could be more transparent. Hope they make it that way.
 

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as popular as Obama at a Trump rally.
To read the newspapers and the newsnets, Ol' Trumpie ain't none too popular at half of his own rallies.

I thought the main reason people hated pool was because it paid lower, but at 1.8x and 2.0x, not sure why people don't think its worthwhile
Even on Bronze, at 1,4, they are tolerable. If it is not an Hour of Power, of course, do not take them. If one comes to me during an Hour of Power, I take it and all subsequent matches. If it is not an Hour of Power, I do not take the U-Pools.

we've all figured out that matched pools at a lower surge dillute (reduce) the higher surge rate and therefore lower total earnings and should be avoided.
I was amazed at how little I received from the first matched U-Pool trip that I ran on surges. One was a 2,2, the second a 1,6. I thought that it would be allright, but when I saw the result, I almost smashed my Uberfone into ten thousand little pieces.
 

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I met an Uber corporate software engineer who described how we get paid on pool.

Bottom line is we get pool rates for time and distance from start to finish, regardless of who gets in-out of the car when.

Then they divvy up the fares among the rides. So if pool ride A pays $9.00 and ride B pays $1.50, what that really tells us is from start to finish time and distance was worth $10.50 (and it will be arbitrarily divided into two payments).

He acknowledged that calling one of the rides $1.50 is bad optics and leaves a bad taste. They will probably fix that.

We didn't get to how differential in surge rates affect the calculations. But for newbies reading this, we've all figured out that matched pools at a lower surge dillute (reduce) the higher surge rate and therefore lower total earnings and should be avoided.
I happen to get a pool ride. I want to make sure uber was paying me correctly according to what was charged to the riders, so asked each one of the riders if I can get their personal phone number so i can call them back and see if what uber charge them was exactly what appears on my earnings for each ride, they agreed and gave me their phone numbers.
I call them one hour after and this was what they got charged: a) 8,27 b) 8,09 for a total of 16,36
total I got paid from uber for the entire pool trip...$8,56
what a rip off,
 

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I happen to get a pool ride. I want to make sure uber was paying me correctly according to what was charged to the riders, so asked each one of the riders if I can get their personal phone number so i can call them back and see if what uber charge them was exactly what appears on my earnings for each ride, they agreed and gave me their phone numbers.
I call them one hour after and this was what they got charged: a) 8,27 b) 8,09 for a total of 16,36
total I got paid from uber for the entire pool trip...$8,56
what a rip off,
This is the message you get when you don't accept a stacked ping or a matched pool. How much do we get per minute? Note the wording...

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I thought some people said that if you pick up just 1 rider it reverts to uberx payment. I assume this is not correct.

It is probably best to just let pool pings expire and let some other sucker take them. Afterall these uber pool trips fund the metal tier system.
 

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Taking a pool passenger is taking a fare from your fellow idle drivers. You get screwed because you're not being fully compensated, your passengers are pissed because they have to sit next to someone, and you screwed the other driver because now he/she is sitting idle. FuberPoop is like the casinos, only the house (Fuber) wins and everyone else loses.
 

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Since I'm new to U-Pool thing, I have a question that bothers me a lot. Like everyone else here I figured that matching trips is something needs to be avoided because there is more hustle and same payment. Recently I accepted a pool and drove the passenger to his POD without accepting new pings. What I noticed is that the payment was pretty much the same as if I had run UberX pax, perhaps 10-15 cents less as I recall based on mileage an time I spent. Is my assessment accurate or was it just a glitch on Uber part?
 

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I happen to get a pool ride. I want to make sure uber was paying me correctly according to what was charged to the riders, so asked each one of the riders if I can get their personal phone number so i can call them back and see if what uber charge them was exactly what appears on my earnings for each ride, they agreed and gave me their phone numbers.
I call them one hour after and this was what they got charged: a) 8,27 b) 8,09 for a total of 16,36
total I got paid from uber for the entire pool trip...$8,56
what a rip off,
No need to get their numbers, we all know about 8 months ago that pool was a ripoff and that Uber never paid you the total of what the pax paid

I thought some people said that if you pick up just 1 rider it reverts to uberx payment. I assume this is not correct.

It is probably best to just let pool pings expire and let some other sucker take them. Afterall these uber pool trips fund the metal tier system.
yeah unmatched pool does not revert to Uberx. rumors are in other markets they do

Taking a pool passenger is taking a fare from your fellow idle drivers. You get screwed because you're not being fully compensated, your passengers are pissed because they have to sit next to someone, and you screwed the other driver because now he/she is sitting idle. FuberPoop is like the casinos, only the house (Fuber) wins and everyone else loses.
I mean thats one way to look at it, but at 1.8x and 2.0x, I feel that's leaving money on the table. Bart McCoy doesn't leave money on the table

Since I'm new to U-Pool thing, I have a question that bothers me a lot. Like everyone else here I figured that matching trips is something needs to be avoided because there is more hustle and same payment. Recently I accepted a pool and drove the passenger to his POD without accepting new pings. What I noticed is that the payment was pretty much the same as if I had run UberX pax, perhaps 10-15 cents less as I recall based on mileage an time I spent. Is my assessment accurate or was it just a glitch on Uber part?
"more hustle and same payment" is false

if it was only 10-16cents less then it had to be a short trip
base rate is only 70 cents, compared to $1.15 on X . base only should have made the trip more than the 10-15 different you stated
then time is 11 cents compared to 17cents. You surely would see lower payments on slightly longer than minimal trips

But I sure hope you aren't out here accepting regular rate pool rides that aren't during the hourly or surge gurantees
 

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when you add in the sitting there waiting picking up more ppl going off route going into some crowded ass places having idiots not be at the pin when you arrive etc etc etc yea uberpool isn't worth the bits of "extra cash" let's be honest give me 1 uberx from a to b any ****ing day
 

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I happen to get a pool ride. I want to make sure uber was paying me correctly according to what was charged to the riders, so asked each one of the riders if I can get their personal phone number so i can call them back and see if what uber charge them was exactly what appears on my earnings for each ride, they agreed and gave me their phone numbers.
I call them one hour after and this was what they got charged: a) 8,27 b) 8,09 for a total of 16,36
total I got paid from uber for the entire pool trip...$8,56
what a rip off,
Actually you can ask when they are in the car as the rider pays a flat fee which is quoted before the request the ride. I once has two pax comparing their fares and they were quite a bit different.
 

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I met an Uber corporate software engineer who described how we get paid on pool.

Bottom line is we get pool rates for time and distance from start to finish, regardless of who gets in-out of the car when.

Then they divvy up the fares among the rides. So if pool ride A pays $9.00 and ride B pays $1.50, what that really tells us is from start to finish time and distance was worth $10.50 (and it will be arbitrarily divided into two payments).

He acknowledged that calling one of the rides $1.50 is bad optics and leaves a bad taste. They will probably fix that.

We didn't get to how differential in surge rates affect the calculations. But for newbies reading this, we've all figured out that matched pools at a lower surge dillute (reduce) the higher surge rate and therefore lower total earnings and should be avoided.
Please explain this to me. If I pick up a pool rider at the airport and no matching pool rider is added to the trip, do I receive pool rate or regular rate for my trip??
 

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Well I don't pretend to be an expert. But I've always been paid Pool rates in that scenario. There are rumors about drivers who have been paid UberX rates in that scenario, but I've never seen any specific evidence to that effect. Often it is suggested that it occurs in other markets.
 

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Well I don't pretend to be an expert. But I've always been paid Pool rates in that scenario. There are rumors about drivers who have been paid UberX rates in that scenario, but I've never seen any specific evidence to that effect. Often it is suggested that it occurs in other markets.
Last week I had one and contacted someone at the uber miami office and he instantly paid the full rate. This week, I have had two and I don't know if I'm talking to someone in Miami or India, but I keep getting the same cookie cutter BS answer that they have check my fares and the fares are correct without acknowledging the problem that i''m inquiring about. I guess I will have to go down to their office, wasting 3 hrs of my day, stand on somebody's freakin' desk and throw a rant until I get a straight answer. There is no difference in them cutting our rate by 20 or more percent if they have this policy of not paying the straight rate for one pool rider. Hell, everyone could say "POOL" and immediately all drivers take a haircut.
 

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Please explain this to me. If I pick up a pool rider at the airport and no matching pool rider is added to the trip, do I receive pool rate or regular rate for my trip??
Well I don't pretend to be an expert. But I've always been paid Pool rates in that scenario. There are rumors about drivers who have been paid UberX rates in that scenario, but I've never seen any specific evidence to that effect. Often it is suggested that it occurs in other markets.
In the DC market it's pretty simple: If you accept a ping that has the pool indicator, you'll get paid pool rate whether you have 1 pax or 14.
 
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