[LGC]

Its all a scam, if you look at livery drivers that now do uber while the car is affiliated with a livery base. Their uber fee is about 35% im guessing that is with sales tax included.
Because on their trip details all you see is
Fare - Uber fee you dont see a sales tax being mentioned anywhere on their trip details.

Meanwhile on ours we see the
Fare - uber fee - sales tax - black car fund

It shows us that we are being charged the sales tax meanwhile it shows them that they arent being charged a sales tax but are paying a higher uber fee.

There isn't sales tax on Livery trips.

I'm pretty sure they also don't pay into BCF.

It should only be 25% commission.

 

[alextheboss]

There isn't sales tax on Livery trips.

I'm pretty sure they also don't pay into BCF.

It should only be 25% commission.

Well if there isn't sales tax on livery shouldn't they have different rates if in fact the rates include sales tax

 

[Uberman8263]

15-20 years ago no driver gave a chit about the sales tax or tolls. Everybody used to make decent earnings back then. What a crap, drivers counting pennies nowadays.

Sad but true.

 

[LGC]

Well if there isn't sales tax on livery shouldn't they have different rates if in fact the rates include sales tax

Yes - that is correct.

 

[LGC]

15-20 years ago no driver gave a chit about the sales tax or tolls. Everybody used to make decent earnings back then. What a crap, drivers counting pennies nowadays.

You're absolutely right!

Specifically because 15-20 years ago, there wasn't sales tax charged on FHV trips.

The law only passed in 2009.

 

[JDJ]

There isn't sales tax on Livery trips.

I'm pretty sure they also don't pay into BCF.

It should only be 25% commission.

It doesn't show them that they are paying BCF or sales tax but they probably still are through uber fee
They are not paying 25% its a little over 35% if you do the math.
on a minimum fare my estimated payout is $5.58 & it shows the fare minus BCF, Sales Tax & Uber Fee
On the livery guy's estimated payout on a minimum fare is $5.17 it only shows the Fare ($8.00) minus
Uber fee (-$2.83). A New black car driver minimum estimated payout is $5.18.

 

[alextheboss]

It doesn't show them that they are paying BCF or sales tax but they probably still are through uber fee
They are not paying 25% its a little over 35% if you do the math.
on a minimum fare my estimated payout is $5.58 & it shows the fare minus BCF, Sales Tax & Uber Fee
On the livery guy's estimated payout on a minimum fare is $5.17 it only shows the Fare ($8.00) minus
Uber fee (-$2.83). A New black car driver minimum estimated payout is $5.18.

How can this be if the passenger pays the sales tax, and not the driver??? Lol

 

[sssteven]

At least juno add tax on tolls to the pax not us
If we are being charged sales tax really need to change.

 

[alextheboss]

At least juno add tax on tolls to the pax not us
If we are being charged sales tax really need to change.

From the people that brought you

"The tip is included in the fare"

comes the newest hit:

"The sales tax is included in the fare"

 

[alextheboss]

So moving the conversation on a different route:

Uber allows cars that are affiliated with a 'Livery base' now. I've read that the sales tax and BCF don't apply to Livery cars.

If one affiliates his car with a Livery base will they not have the sales tax+BCF as a deduction taken from fares, therefore only having a 20-25% deduction of fares?

Do Juno/Lyft accept Livery cars?

 

[JDJ]

So moving the conversation on a different route:

Uber allows cars that are affiliated with a 'Livery base' now. I've read that the sales tax and BCF don't apply to Livery cars.

If one affiliates his car with a Livery base will they not have the sales tax+BCF as a deduction taken from fares, therefore only having a 20-25% deduction of fares?

Do Juno/Lyft accept Livery cars?

Uber fee for livery base cars is about 36%
& I only think Uber is accepting livery cars I may be wrong about that.

 

[John Yoo]

I dont see sales tax anymore.

 

[Lenny_yellow_cab]

I dont see sales tax anymore.

Can u elaborate a bit

 

[John Yoo]

Same week.

 

[JustDre]

Legally who ever collects the money is suppose to pay the tax

 

[John_in_NY]

There is a difference between sales tax and income tax.

I understand that UBER sends drivers a 1099 at the end of the year. Here, you will pay taxes based on your earnings. So those decent pay weeks or months become even less.

Sales tax, I remember getting a post card form NY State back in, gosh, 2008 or so??? It informed me that livery companies would start collecting the 8+% sales tax. I simply went out and got taxi plates at a local village.
Sales tax is paid buy the consumer and should not be charged to the driver. Remember, when doing your yearly taxes, most can claim sales taxes on everything they purchased for the tax year. You'd be surprised how much that adds up to.

Because of many loopholes, like getting taxi plates and collecting "0" in sales tax while performing the same task, job or service, the sales tax should be abolished.

It sucks seeing taxis with "all airports" posted in the rear windows, performing the same work as liveries, yet not collecting any sales tax (not NYC). The tax causes the taxi rates to seems more affordable, by at least 8%.

A flat tax on ALL for hire vehicles including taxis should be collected when registering the vehicle at the DMV. $1,000, $2000??? Who knows. Perhaps, take the $$$$$24 million (wow) (2009 figures) the tax generates and divide it by the number of for hire vehicles registered in the state.

Or, better yet, New York officials should get their act together and just stop wasting money.

 

[eagle88]

I noticed that Uber doesn't charge sales tax on trips to NJ, they only deduct Uber fee and black car fund. but Lyft deducts sales tax from NJ trips. has it always been this way? Lyft should stop charging sales tax from trips that ends outside NY.

 

[ShiftySheik]

I noticed that Uber doesn't charge sales tax on trips to NJ, they only deduct Uber fee and black car fund. but Lyft deducts sales tax from NJ trips. has it always been this way? Lyft should stop charging sales tax from trips that ends outside NY.

You're right. Lyft pockets the sales tax on non-taxable interstate trips. Uber, Juno and Gett let the driver keep it. Lyft gets away with it because they don't itemize sales tax on driver statements.

 

[eagle88]

You're right. Lyft pockets the sales tax on non-taxable interstate trips. Uber, Juno and Gett let the driver keep it. Lyft gets away with it because they don't itemize sales tax on driver statements.

Lyft is very sneaky, I think if we all email them they might stop doing that, if they are faced with a class action lawsuit they will be required to payback all the tax money they have pocketed on interstate trips.

 

[Rustyshackelford]

Lyft is very sneaky, I think if we all email them they might stop doing that, if they are faced with a class action lawsuit they will be required to payback all the tax money they have pocketed on interstate trips.

Nope. They are quite smart. They just say that is their commission and they take care of sales tax. So when there is no sales tax, They get a little more.