[Montgomery]

Hi Juno Official you know I like you but, your response to @rustyshacklefor did not make sense to me at all.

During the meeting you gave this presentation about the company values, one of which being Transparency. You also said that you are aware of the empty promises we have been given in the past, so you asked for us to give you a chance to prove that you mean the things you said to us. I and others decided to give you that chance and we are doing it right now.

So please live up to that core value of Transparency you spoke about during the meeting and give us a clear answer on this issue. Not some Uberspeak. Many of us wanna believe in you.

 

[Ryan Price]

Does Ryan Price care to share what his organizations stance is on this?

The sales tax is paid by the passenger at point of sale with all companies. However, the sales tax should still be abolished. It's absurd that an 8.88% sales tax is put on the Black Car industry when taxi's only pay a 50 cent surcharge.

We'll be organizing to abolish the sales tax late this year/early next year. Our stance is that when the tax is abolished, Uber, Lyft and Juno shouldn't just pocket the rest. With Uber, we got them to agree to pay into a benefits fund when the tax is abolished (so we can get healthcare, retirement fund, etc.) and we'd like to set up something similar with Juno Official , Lyft and all them - they just have to call us back. We may need to start organizing to push them. Also, we feel that the fare shouldn't just drop 8.88%. Either the fare should raise, or better yet, the companies should drop the fare, say, 7% and add a flat 15% gratuity charge on all fares.

But we'll see what comes of it in the next year. We all just have to come together on the issue.

 

[Ryan Price]

I think this should be a top priority for Ryan Price and IDG. It would immediately put more money in the driver's pocket.

It absolutely is. Take a look at my above comment.

 

[alextheboss]

The sales tax is paid by the passenger at point of sale with all companies. However, the sales tax should still be abolished. It's absurd that Black Car drivers pay an 8.88% sales tax when taxi's only pay a 50 cent surcharge.

Please clarify your statement, on one sentence you state that the passenger pays the sales tax, and then on the other that the driver pays it.

I have been a rider and have never seen sales tax added to my bill, nor is there any mention of sales tax on the rider app.

I've been a driver and have seen the sales tax taken out of the total fare. Still haven't gotten a good explanation on how base+miles+time=fare+tax

 

[alextheboss]

Hi guys,

The sales tax for Juno is already included in the base fare and is then paid by the rider.

I hope that answers your questions!

Juno

Juno Official
Just checked your passenger app and base fare is $2.55. How does that cover the sales tax which is a percentage? Let's say the total fare comes out to $50, sales tax would be a least $4...

Also, if the tax is included in the fare as stated then how do you charge a ride from say Manhattan to New Jersey, this ride would not have sales tax yet the price you are charging the passenger includes a sales tax that doesn't apply. In this case it would seem you are collecting a tax from the passenger you weren't suppose to collect.

 

[Ryan Price]

Please clarify your statement, on one sentence you state that the passenger pays the sales tax, and then on the other that the driver pays it.

Whoop, you're right. That was a typo.

Here, clarified: The sales tax is paid by the passenger at point of sale with all companies. However, the sales tax should still be abolished. It's absurd that an 8.88% sales tax is put on the Black Car industry when taxi's only pay a 50 cent surcharge.

I have been a rider and have never seen sales tax added to my bill, nor is there any mention of sales tax on the rider app.

It's on the bottom of the receipt.

 

[alextheboss]

It's on the bottom of the receipt.

Sorry still can't find any mention of sales tax on receipt

 

[Ryan Price]

Sorry still can't find any mention of sales tax on receipt

Keep scrolling down.

 

[alextheboss]

Keep scrolling down.

That's the end of the receipt. Have you taken Uber as a rider? If so please show me your receipt where you are charged sales tax, none of my intra NYC trips show any tax.

 

[Ryan Price]

Sorry still can't find any mention of sales tax on receipt

Don't get me wrong, it's shady that Uber buries it. But the passengers do pay it. It's a legal requirement.

 

[alextheboss]

Here's one from Juno, although Juno already stated that the tax was in the base fare somehow.

 

[alextheboss]

Don't get me wrong, it's shady that Uber buries it. But the passengers do pay it. It's a legal requirement.

I would love to see a passenger receipt showing where the passenger was charged the sales tax. I doubt you will find it since the passengers aren't the ones paying it. I just showed you my receipt from trips I have taken... I'm not going by hear say.

It's a legal requirement, and yet it's being taken out of the fare which is what this thread is all about.. How NYC drivers are paying for the sales tax from THEIR fares, instead of the passengers paying for that separately.

 

[Ryan Price]

alextheboss

 

[Ryan Price]

Honestly, I don't know why we're arguing about this. We're on the same side. We both want to get rid of the tax.

 

[Rustyshackelford]

alextheboss

That's Google not a uber receipt. Alextheboss made a good point. If sales tax is included should we get paid less than the regular rate when we drop off in jersey. There is no sales tax. Got em

 

[Rustyshackelford]

I think uber I mean drivers guild and Juno should comment on this. If sales tax is included in the fare why do we get paid more when we drop off in jersey. That proves we are paying for sales tax. Because when we drop off out of state. We still get the 1.75 without sales tax deducted. Good catch Alex.

 

[Ryan Price]

That's Google not a uber receipt.

 

[alextheboss]

Even that receipt makes the point that taxes are taken out of the total fare... Base fare+time+distance is how we are paid, you can't calculate total fare and then reverse calculate tax based on those numbers that's just not how it works.

I'm not a tax professional so I'm not gonna make the argument on if tax should be charged on a black car ride or not. All I'm saying is consumer is responsible for paying sales tax, seller is responsible for collecting it. In this case TNCs are collecting it from the service provider (drivers) not the consumer.

 

[alextheboss]

I think uber I mean drivers guild and Juno should comment on this. If sales tax is included in the fare why do we get paid more when we drop off in jersey. That proves we are paying for sales tax. Because when we drop off out of state. We still get the 1.75 without sales tax deducted. Good catch Alex.

Either we (drivers) are paying sales tax or they are charging passenger a sales tax (example NYC to nj) that they weren't supposed to.

But can't have it both ways... If it's in the "fare" then what's the base+milage+time rate for non tax trips...

 

[Rustyshackelford]

Either we (drivers) are paying sales tax or they are charging passenger a sales tax (example NYC to nj) that they weren't supposed to.

But can't have it both ways... If it's in the "fare" then what's the base+milage+time rate for non tax trips...

That just proves the driver is paying the sales tax. For poops and giggles let me contact the attorney generals office and see what they think.