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No more than four people please

6382 Views 108 Replies 31 Participants Last post by GolferLA, Sep 10, 2015

Annapolis Ghostrider

Discussion Starter · Aug 30, 2015

No more than four people please
No more than four people please
No more than four people please

And they still keep piling in. I know I'm getting a one star for not allowing them 5 in the car, but that's fine. I guess this is the downside of late night weekend driving.

I guess I could cancel the trip right away right? Problem there is you have to get the six people out of the car. I had two people open my SUV back on their own and jump in. I was irate.

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painfreepc

· #61 · Sep 4, 2015 (Edited)

Disgusted Driver said:
From a logical point of view I believe you are correct, there is no actual number in my drivers agreement. I have however gotten communications from Uber stating that we are not allowed to have a ride along, it makes pax uncomfortable and we need to be able to handle 4 pax. Bottom line is that they regularly deactivate people for stuff that's not in the agreement and I'm sure that if people complain about a cancellation fee because you wouldn't take 4, the csr will take the fee right off.

With that said, totally agree that you shouldn't allow yourself to be blackmailed by the potential loss of precious stars.

What the hell, blackmail, what are you talking about, why are you entertaining this idiot,
you were tolled your car needed to seat 4 passengers when you signed-up, the client app says 4 people max, if the client APP says 4 people max, then your car needs to seat 4 passengers, you can hate uber all you want, but no misunderstanding here, it's clear and we all know it..

Disgusted Driver

· #62 · Sep 4, 2015

painfreepc said:
What the hell, blackmail, what are you talking about, why are you entertaining this idiot,
you were tolled your car needed to seat 4 passengers when you signed-up, the client app says 4 people max, if the client says 4 max, then your car needs to seat 4, you can hate uber all you want, but no misunderstanding here, it's clear and we all know it..

Perhaps I wasn't clear, I meant that to be a totally separate comment. I agree, you gotta take 4, it doesn't matter what the partner agreement says, you won't be working long if you can't take 4 people. What I was talking about was people who allow pax to engage in bad behavior like overcrowding because they are afraid they will get 1 starred if they don't play along. If that's how you think then you are blackmailing yourself and a rating on a single ride is somewhat irrelevant. I personally don't want to deal with them so I refuse service and cancel after 5. My feeling is that the college students in the area will stop pulling that shit if they know there's a financial penalty for doing so.

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #63 · Sep 4, 2015

painfreepc said:
Not everyone is written in stone there's obviously exception, if someone breaks an uber rule and tries to get away with it,
like trying to put 3 or more people in your car after requesting and Uber pool or saying something like "hey you passed me two times were you lost"

why do you want someone in your car that has already expressed that they think you are stupid, that has already disrespected you and is now being told they can't do something that they wish to do,

I have more respect for myself, my uber rating and my car there's an old saying in business "Not all money is good money"

Your prerogative. I respect my cash flow. You can keep your precious stars. I've got over 12,000 of them. But my creditors only accept US currency in payment. They don't want my f'ing stars either. GUber On!

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Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #64 · Sep 4, 2015

Renaldow said:
If you have drunk pax in your car, illegally overloading it and acting like aholes, you really want to create a scene for the cops. The cops are your BFF's in that situation. The cops show up ask WTF is going on here, you say these drunk aholes won't get out of my car and are trying to get me to drive them illegally. Cops take care of it all, send you on your way. Was one talking about scoring coke? I think I heard them say that, but I didn't see it...

Seriously, you have a better chance of them tipping you in magic beans.

How do you know that most drivers will illegally take those groups? I'm sure there are drivers that will, but when a pax tells you "the other driver did it" it's usually a lie. Whenever I hear "the other driver..." I always tell them that maybe if they're lucky they'll get the other driver after I cancel. Then I drive away.

All of this. YES!

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #65 · Sep 4, 2015

painfreepc said:
I apologize to the moderator in advance for the following comment to the poster.

Are you a troll or just playing stupid, it says "max size 4 people that means the client can have a maximum of 3 guests and self that equals a max of four passengers, the four people max message is on the client app not the driver App, you are expected by uber to have 4 seats available for your client.

You can easily spot the posters who have never been an uber client and never intend to use the service, imagine you order and Uber for yourself and three friends or family and this driver shows up and tells you "sorry I can only take three passengers request another car" this poster is a deactivation in progress,

I am an uber client I request an uber two or six times a week, if a driver pulled that s*** me, I would fire off so many emails to uber support, i would become that drivers worst CSR nightmare.

No emails to CSR necessary. You have already become the worst nightmare. Another over indulged, self-entitled rider, posing here as an GUBerx driver. Sigh. Driver I/Cs are legally bound by the DRIVER AGREEMENT. Not your stupid Rider App, GUber's Website, their ridiculous radio ads, or the Rider Agreement. And you can "fire off" all the emails you want to customer support. The robots there love responding to them.

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #66 · Sep 4, 2015

Disgusted Driver said:
From a logical point of view I believe you are correct, there is no actual number in my drivers agreement. I have however gotten communications from Uber stating that we are not allowed to have a ride along, it makes pax uncomfortable and we need to be able to handle 4 pax. Bottom line is that they regularly deactivate people for stuff that's not in the agreement and I'm sure that if people complain about a cancellation fee because you wouldn't take 4, the csr will take the fee right off.

With that said, totally agree that you shouldn't allow yourself to be blackmailed by the potential loss of precious stars.

Now that's a true statement. B/L GUber can deactivate any of us for practically any reason whatsoever. Says so right in the DA! And the ride a long is a nuanced, but slightly different issue. Unless one is doing UberPool...then how many "xtra riders" is one entitled to? It all gets a bit murky, doesn't it. 2,500 trips, still waiting for that deactivation memo.

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #67 · Sep 4, 2015

painfreepc said:
What the hell, blackmail, what are you talking about, why are you entertaining this idiot,
you were tolled your car needed to seat 4 passengers when you signed-up, the client app says 4 people max, if the client APP says 4 people max, then your car needs to seat 4 passengers, you can hate uber all you want, but no misunderstanding here, it's clear and we all know it..

How do you 'know" what one was told when they signed up. Have. You. Read. Your. Driver. Agreement. Hack?

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #68 · Sep 4, 2015 (Edited)

Last comment on this thread..gotta move on now. I think it is so rich we have a rider here telling us as I/Cs what we are "required" to do. Sigh. And saying he'd throw a temper tantrum by complaining to a robot CSR. Too funny!! I'll explain it with this analogy.

The Outlaw Jesse James rides into town. Says, "Folks, there's a new Sheriff in town. Anyone want to ride with me?" Now, what kind of folks will this attract? Fellow outlaws to be sure, wannabe outlaws probably, and even a few with nothin better to do. Get it? There are no Rulz, GUber is making this sh^t up as they go along!

Yes, one could get deactivated for not hauling 4.
Yes, one get could deactivated for a low rating.
Yes, one could get deactivated for a violent encounter with a pax.
Yes, one could get deactivated for breaking wind in your vehicle and creating a "hostile work environment"
Yes, one could get deactivated because your local market GM gets PO'd and decides, "Off with their heads". "F*&k it, we got too many hoopdee 2004 Toyota Camry's in this Uberx fleet. Cxl half of their accounts. Pick em at random, I don't give a f*ck why, because we can."

GET IT? GUBer can deactivate anyone at any time for any reason they damn please. Period. Abide by your legal agreement as outlined in the PA. Do what makes sense for you and maximizing your potential profits. If you want to haul 4 obnoxious, over entitled, snarling drunks around for chump change, please be my guest. I. Will. Not.

From para 2.2 of the most recent "Partnership Agreement", dated 11/10/2014, excerpted:
(a) you shall be solely responsible for determining the most effective, efficient and safe manner to perform each instance of Transportation Services;

As to PFPC, when I get to your location, and observer your demeanor, I then assess that I can not "effectively, efficiently and safely perform this instance of the Transportation Service" I then exercise my right in the PA to cancel said instance, at no charge to you.

. You have NO legal entitlement to enter my vehicle, simply because you have submitted a "Request GUberX" transaction. We are not TAXI's.

This will end one day soon enough for all of us when:

1) One wrecks their car
2) GUber deactivates one for a random reason of their time or choosing
3) Your local authorities shut them down
4) Your wife realizes you are going broke doing this and shuts you down
4) GUber Investors realize they are going broke doing this and take them BK

Now please, have a chai latte and calm down. Another GUberx GNUber driving a GMC Yukon on X will be along in 30 seconds to give you a free ride. It's all going to work out for the best.

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painfreepc

· #69 · Sep 4, 2015 (Edited)

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd said:
Your prerogative. I respect my cash flow. You can keep your precious stars. I've got over 12,000 of them. But my creditors only accept US currency in payment. They don't want my f'ing stars either. GUber On!

internet troll

painfreepc

· #70 · Sep 4, 2015 (Edited)

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd said:
No emails to CSR necessary. You have already become the worst nightmare. Another over indulged, self-entitled rider, posing here as an GUBerx driver. Sigh. Driver I/Cs are legally bound by the DRIVER AGREEMENT. Not your stupid Rider App, GUber's Website, their ridiculous radio ads, or the Rider Agreement. And you can "fire off" all the emails you want to customer support. The robots there love responding to them.

Internet troll

painfreepc

· #71 · Sep 4, 2015 (Edited)

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd said:
How do you 'know" what one was told when they signed up. Have. You. Read. Your. Driver. Agreement. Hack?

Internet troll

painfreepc

· #72 · Sep 4, 2015

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ginseng41

· #73 · Sep 4, 2015

Renaldow said:
If you have drunk pax in your car, illegally overloading it and acting like aholes, you really want to create a scene for the cops. The cops are your BFF's in that situation. The cops show up ask WTF is going on here, you say these drunk aholes won't get out of my car and are trying to get me to drive them illegally. Cops take care of it all, send you on your way. Was one talking about scoring coke? I think I heard them say that, but I didn't see it...

Seriously, you have a better chance of them tipping you in magic beans.

How do you know that most drivers will illegally take those groups? I'm sure there are drivers that will, but when a pax tells you "the other driver did it" it's usually a lie. Whenever I hear "the other driver..." I always tell them that maybe if they're lucky they'll get the other driver after I cancel. Then I drive away.

I see them getting our of uber cars and trunks. 3 cars can hold more than 4 legally bur we don't have xl

ginseng41

· #74 · Sep 4, 2015

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd said:
I agree, this DOES suck. Try this approach next time. Take the ping then start your stopwatch. Don't move. Txt Pins to confirm location & # of pax. If they cxl after 5, then you get the SRF and didn't move. If they firm up then you should be able to fill the order. If they cxl'd immediately you lost nothing.

And for hayzoos sake, starting lobbying your other local drivers to stop being such totally dickweeds. A moving violation for this could result in a deactivation...wtf are they trying to accomplish? You could sit there one night off-line and snap the pics. Probably get a few dbags deactivated and the rest would get in line. There is simply no room in the platform for this behavior. It's totally reckless, dangerous, unnecessary, stupid, not to mention Illegal. Please, no professional driver would behave in this way and let 5 dumb aholes riders in a 5pax sedan.

I've already sent in several license plates to uber per the police suggestions

mikeuberman123

· #75 · Sep 4, 2015

Ok

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poopy

· #76 · Sep 4, 2015

Uncle Willy,

If you really want to endear yourself to painfulpeesea, just utter one word...

Santander.

Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #77 · Sep 5, 2015

poopy said:
Uncle Willy,

If you really want to endear yourself to painfulpeesea, just utter one word...

Santander.

Should I mention I actually work for Santander? And am the one that underwrote his lease?

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Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #78 · Sep 5, 2015

Well the cartoon was funny at least. An entire dictionary at your disposal and all you could come up with was..."troll"? I mean, it's like your not even trying. Being a UD CSR must really suck huh? You should read some of his stuff, Casuale Haberdasher. The Bison ;);) really knows how to flame a troll!

painfreepc

· #79 · Sep 5, 2015

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Wil_Iam_Fuber'd

· #80 · Sep 5, 2015

Agreed. It doesn't say anything at all with respect to tips/gratuitys and/or the I/C's solicitation/acceptance of same. In fact it says this:

Para 2.4 (excerpted) ...[I/Cs] you retain the complete right to; (i) use other software application services in addition to the Uber Services; and (ii) engage in any other occupation or business.

For example, one might offer an informational, historical tour guide service to out of town folks. A service for which certain folks agree the I/C deserves compensation. Which they might also decide to render in cash. I know right?

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