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Will you be opting out of arbitration after accepting new agreement within the next 30 days?

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Received: December 11, 2015,

Beginning today, the next time you log onto the Uber app, you will receive a pop-up notification about a new driver-partner agreement. You will be prompted to accept the new agreement before you can continue to go online and begin accepting trips. However, you have the option to opt-out of certain provisions after accepting the agreement, as explained further in the agreement itself. This agreement governs your relationship with Rasier, so it is important that you read it.

This agreement has an updated arbitration provision, among other changes and updates.

We have provided a link to a copy of the agreement below for you to view.

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Partnership Agreement

https://www.dropbox.com/s/quqbcusiidpand5/RASIER%20Technology%20Services%20Agreement%20December%2010%202015.pdf?dl=0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dzkUzN1_G1SC1GSnZmTW4xWUE/view

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Edited to add some shortcuts to posts in the thread:

How to Opt Out:

sending, within 30 days of the date this Agreement is executed by you, electronic mail to [email protected] stating your name and intent to opt out of the Arbitration Provision
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...nt-dec-11-2015-arbitration.49124/#post-655749
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...nt-dec-11-2015-arbitration.49124/#post-655864


Summarizing the legal reasoning behind this:
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...-11-2015-arbitration.49124/page-7#post-656512
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...-11-2015-arbitration.49124/page-7#post-656526


Some points about vehicle requirements and insurance:
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...-11-2015-arbitration.49124/page-2#post-656000

Discussion about the 10 minute wait time:
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...-11-2015-arbitration.49124/page-6#post-656484

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I assume this is in response to the latest lawsuit rulings about the arbitration provision.

In any case, it seems everyone now has 30 days after accepting it to opt out.

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so the wording may have changed regarding the Arbitration agreement.
to better comply with any rulings the Judge decided that the previous agreement
was Unenforceable?
Obviously something in the wording needed to be changed to tighten up this escape hatch. The fact that Uber fought it so hard and wants it changed this quickly probably means it's in the drivers best interest to opt out of it.

The easiest way seem to be method 1, by doing the following after agreeing to the new terms:

sending, within 30 days of the date this Agreement is executed by you, electronic mail to [email protected] stating your name and intent to opt out of the Arbitration Provision

I would at least copy yourself on the email and print out the original and copy you sent yourself (with email headers on the copy if possible) for your records to show that it was sent.
 

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so Uber will provide this updated Arbitration agreement as part of their Appeals process to the Judges ruling??
and be able to ascertain the number of Drivers in California who could benefit from the outcome of the upcoming case on June 20, 2016

160,000 California drivers need to make a decision here.

I am sure Shannon Liss-Riordan (counsel for plaintiffs) would also like to have a head-count on who opted-out.
 

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you obviously didn't read it !

to quote the agreement, it states---
"You understand that you will not be subject to retaliation if you exercise your right to assert claims or opt-out of coverage under this Arbitration Provision. "
That's actually a good thing. Basically covers you in the manner that if you quit Uber can't come back months down the road stating that a few of your fares were miscalculated you owe us this and this. On Ubers side it covers them, if they let you go for not complying with policy you can't come back at them to sue them for future damages to your car that were a result of driving with Uber.
 

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I was about to ask why OPT-OUT info goes to Raiser, LLC

so I decided to check my recent pay info
12/02/15 it had UBER TECH
12/09/15 changed back to RAISER, LLC

That's actually a good thing. Basically covers you in the manner that if you quit Uber can't come back months down the road stating that a few of your fares were miscalculated you owe us this and this. On Ubers side it covers them, if they let you go for not complying with policy you can't come back at them to sue them for future damages to your car that were a result of driving with Uber.
more appropriately, they cannot deactivate you solely based on your decision to OPT-OUT
 

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Should we be opting out or not?
YES!
And if we should opt out, how should opt out, what is the proper procedure to opt out?
Within 30 days of the date this Agreement is executed by you, email [email protected]
stating your name and intent to opt out of the Arbitration Provision.

Here is a sample opt-out email template:
https://uberpeople.net/threads/new-...11-2015-arbitration.49124/page-14#post-658636
I would at least copy yourself on the email and print out the original and copy you sent yourself (with email headers on the copy if possible) for your records to show that it was sent.
 
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